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Inquiry Faults Police and Family in the 3 Camden Boys' Deaths, found in trunk of Abandoned Car
NY Times ^ | 08.02.05

Posted on 08/02/2005 5:19:16 PM PDT by Coleus

An inquiry into the June deaths of three boys who suffocated while playing in the trunk of a broken-down car even as the police undertook a wide search concluded today with a finding that had long been suspected: No one thought to look inside the family car.

Despite the failure of police officers to check the Toyota Camry - a place where at least one of the boys had been known to play - authorities said today that no one would be disciplined in the case.

"I don't think any purpose would be served to have heads roll," Vincent P. Sarubbi, the county prosecutor said in a news conference today at the Camden Police Department's headquarters.

Mr. Sarubbi and Camden's police chief, Edwin J. Figueroa, took pains to spread the blame for the deaths of Anibal Cruz, 11; Daniel Agosto, 6; and Jesstin Pagan, 5, who disappeared from the yard of the Cruz family home on the evening of June 22.

"There were multiple causes, multiple reasons for this tragedy - obviously, the clearest one was the failure to look into the trunk," Mr. Sarubbi said. "Yes, there's enough blame to go around: the city, the police and the family."

After the children went missing, the Cruz family waited three hours to call the police. By the next day, more than 100 law enforcement officials were using helicopters, boats and search dogs. They scoured rivers, drainpipes and tick-infested woods. At the same time, family members held an emotional news conference broadcast live on cable television seeking information about the boys' whereabouts. The family said they had lost sight of the boys for only about half an hour.

The children were not found until two days later, when a family member looking for jumper cables opened the trunk

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: agosto; boys; camden; camdencounty; donutlist; donutwatch; garbagedump; innercity; leo; lostboys; tobaccoroad; urban
Authorities said the children's shoes had been found inside the car. >>

Unbelievable

1 posted on 08/02/2005 5:19:16 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

I bet you'll find there was one officer who called the others off - because most cops would have known immediately what to look for. There's always a jerk in the crowd and he is frequently the one with authority.


2 posted on 08/02/2005 5:22:31 PM PDT by livius
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To: Coleus

So sad but it was probably too late by the time they got there anyway.


3 posted on 08/02/2005 5:28:45 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

what really upsetting is that the grandmother (owner of vehicle) and the mother blamed the police for not looking in the trunk,knowing that the children had played there before, They also looked in vehicle and did not bother to look in the trunk 3 hours before the police came out. Parents had an obligation to look in trunk. Why didn't they opened the trunk when they looked, yet expected police to have opended.


4 posted on 08/02/2005 5:34:42 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: Coleus



Those in authority are expected to have the ability to conduct a search...a frantic parent is not capable. The police dropped the ball, period.


5 posted on 08/02/2005 5:34:43 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: SouthernFreebird

I agree, they're the "trained experts" who the parents turned to for expertise, professionalism and help. Parents at that stage of the game can't think, concentrate or remember a thing.


6 posted on 08/02/2005 5:37:17 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

If the family had called police immediately, maybe they would have been found.
If the police had been called and then an alert police officer noticed the shoes in the car, then the boys could have been saved.
Too many variables for even one response to bring about the desired outcome.
So sad.


7 posted on 08/02/2005 5:40:13 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: CindyDawg

Confusion at the beginning of the search has been spotlighted because the Camden County medical examiner ruled that the boys lived 13 to 33 hours after they went missing - meaning they were alive at least into Thursday morning.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new_jersey/12214369.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp


8 posted on 08/02/2005 5:40:43 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: newfrpr04

I never in a million years would have thought they were in the trunk. The children were obviously not made to be afraid of playing in the trunk, so that appears to be the main problem.


9 posted on 08/02/2005 5:41:33 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: Coleus

Huh. You would have thought they would have called out.


10 posted on 08/02/2005 5:42:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

They were probably unconscious by then.


11 posted on 08/02/2005 5:45:08 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: CindyDawg

they were pretty young children, perhaps they heard them and didn't answer if they were playing hide and seek or afraid of getting in trouble. I thought they said they probably crawed in the trunk through the back seat opening, I wonder why they didn't try and crawl back out. Too young, and said. It's so easy for young children to get into mischief when left alone.


12 posted on 08/02/2005 5:47:01 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: Coleus

Yeah. What can you say, except so sad. These officers wanted to find them and probably next to the family grieving the most. I'm not worried about it happening again. They will probably rip every trunk open from now on.


13 posted on 08/02/2005 5:48:16 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: newfrpr04

If you are saying the family is responsible I agree with your assessment.


14 posted on 08/02/2005 5:49:13 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: newfrpr04

I thought about that but that's a big fear, to stay in such a hot area.


15 posted on 08/02/2005 5:49:50 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Coleus

When some person accidentally kills a kid, a headline hungry prosecutor is sure to press charges. But, since it's the government at fault, oops! Just an accident. No one will face charges.


16 posted on 08/02/2005 5:50:22 PM PDT by IRememberElian
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To: newfrpr04

If they had died in a discarded refrigerator the owner of the fridge would be in jail.


17 posted on 08/02/2005 5:55:03 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: mabelkitty
I think as parents I would check and double check . When our son graduated from 6th grade,and was honored by PTA for his community service, I was told a story about the time he fell asleep under the teacher's u-shaped desk during recess and they could not find him for hours, they searched the entire school, and thought he might have walked home (6yrs old - We always drove and picked them up), they begin to panic when his older brother told them he didn't know his way home. They had entire classrooms looking for him.We were never notified and they never called the police either. He finally woke up and crawled out of the desk.
18 posted on 08/02/2005 5:58:19 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: Coleus
Unimaginable combination of mistakes by everyone.
19 posted on 08/02/2005 6:06:01 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: CindyDawg

I think they were too young to make any decisions. I guess we were lucky we had a fireman who lived a couple of door down and taught kids in the neighbor how to be safe. Even then we still had to keep an eye on them. Our older son was so mischievous and curious that we were both always chasing after him.

If his friends were over, the parents had an obligation to watch them.


20 posted on 08/02/2005 6:06:44 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: IRememberElian

In this case they were both at fault. Parents already lawyered up. Parents had personal responsiblity to their kid and the friends. Tragic accident, I just think some people want to blame the cops for everything - if someone else is to blame then it's easier to live with your guilt ????


21 posted on 08/02/2005 6:11:07 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: eleni121

A person who leaves an abandoned car or freezer in his yard must keep it secured and away from children.If it's true that the parents knew the kids liked playing in the car and they allowed it to continue,the parents were negligent.How many parents would allow their young children to play in an abandoned freezer,whether they were watching them or not?If the car was owned by anyone other than a family member,that person would most likely have been arrested.


22 posted on 08/02/2005 6:19:41 PM PDT by rdcorso (When Bill Heard The Word Double-Wide He Thought It Referred To Hillary's Ass)
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To: rdcorso

grandma car... grandma's fault for not making sure vehicle was locked. If vehicle was unlocked as some reports indicate and they got in from the back seat or opened truck with truck latch inside car.. climbed in and couldn't get out. Grandmother will have to bear this responsibility.


23 posted on 08/02/2005 6:27:33 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: Coleus

unbelievable you say.

try minneapolis in 1996

a woman gone missing on c-mas eve and husband suspecyed in high profile rich people case

her car was soon found on main drag, lake street, in kmart parking lot.

police searched the car and impounded it.

days later on a routine imvemtory of the car--there she was -- in the trunk.

they searched the glove box for a body but not the trunk.


24 posted on 08/02/2005 6:44:16 PM PDT by dadokane (Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. HATE OK.)
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To: Coleus

This is not the cops' fault--it's the stupid family's fault. They didn't teach their children NOT to go into a car, period, without them. Then they didn't lock the car. Then they didn't LOOK IN THEIR OWN TRUNK.

I hope the policemen/women involved don't lose their job, pay or sleep over this.


25 posted on 08/02/2005 9:02:56 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: j-damn

Huh?


26 posted on 08/02/2005 9:20:06 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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