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Brain-dead woman gives birth to baby girl
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Posted on 08/02/2005 7:19:52 PM PDT by CO Gal

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To: newzjunkey
This is a perversion of the natural order of things by a selfish family and their deceased daughter.

So you would prefer her dead? If so please explain the first part of your tag line – not that I understand the second.

21 posted on 08/02/2005 8:05:13 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: linn37

Can't do both for some reason?


22 posted on 08/02/2005 8:05:17 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Choose LIFE. Circumcision = Barbarism. It's HIS body; what about HIS right to choose?)
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To: CO Gal; NYer; Salvation; trussell; Faith

Prayers sent from TX.


23 posted on 08/02/2005 8:06:17 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (The pursuit of life, liberty, and higher tax revenue (amended by the supreme 5).)
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To: Blzbba

The father is a young man. He may very well marry again. Besides her grandmothers are young enough to help raise her. This child is luckier than most. She is loved and she's wanted. A lot of kids can't say that.


24 posted on 08/02/2005 8:08:18 PM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: CO Gal
If that's the case and if I were you, I'd make certain you had the financial and legal means to see your wishes carried out. Don't expect the taxpayers or charity of strangers to help your spouse. It's *your* responsibility.

She's not just in a coma, she's flatline brain dead meaning if she wasn't on life support she would surely completely die as natural order works.

25 posted on 08/02/2005 8:09:18 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Choose LIFE. Circumcision = Barbarism. It's HIS body; what about HIS right to choose?)
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To: newzjunkey

My daughters were premies. Not as small as this girl. BUt I will tell you this this is the right thing to do for the baby. In the NICU with my girls were two girls who went home 2 days before us. They were 1lb 15 oz when born. They were in perfect health when released.


26 posted on 08/02/2005 8:09:48 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (The pursuit of life, liberty, and higher tax revenue (amended by the supreme 5).)
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To: newzjunkey

So you are saying you think it is better for her to be dead than to be raised without a mother? All this dad did was make sure she got a chance to live.


27 posted on 08/02/2005 8:09:50 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: newzjunkey

You've mentioned "natural order" twice in your posts. I assume then if you ever have a heart attack or are in an accident you'd want "natural order" to run its course.


28 posted on 08/02/2005 8:16:17 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: newzjunkey

It is the right of the charitable person to give their money as they see fit. It is not our right to tell them they cannot dontate to this cause!

I didn't see anywhere that said the insurance was medicaid or medicare. It is most likely the insurance used was privately paid for by the husband...if so, why then shouldn't he be allowed to collect on it?


29 posted on 08/02/2005 8:16:48 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: newzjunkey

Medical technology has reached a point where even preemies this small have a decent chance at normal development. However, if the plan here had been to deliver the baby at this stage, I'd agree that it was unwise, and carried undue risk of doing more harm than good. However, the plan, which wasn't unrealistic, was that the mother could be kept going longer, so as to deliver the baby when it was the point of serious risk for long term problems -- which one might reasonably have assumed would have been the mother's wish. Apparently the mother's condition recently deteriorated, and they had to deliver the baby earlier than planned.


30 posted on 08/02/2005 8:22:15 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: trussell

Even if she was on medicaid I would be ok with investing in life. So much of our taxes dollars are spent without giving us a choice on death.


31 posted on 08/02/2005 8:23:05 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Friend of thunder

Please, do you: enlighten me.


32 posted on 08/02/2005 8:23:24 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: CindyDawg

I would too Cindy...the other poster just seemed to have an issue with it being paid for by others. It looks to me that the father paid a premium for the insurance and was due the right to collect!


33 posted on 08/02/2005 8:24:53 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: CO Gal

Absolutely heartwrenching. Prayers for all in this family.


34 posted on 08/02/2005 8:27:12 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: trussell

She evidently was a researcher. Her own insurance may have been providing some coverage.


35 posted on 08/02/2005 8:28:32 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: newzjunkey
"This is a perversion of the natural order of things by a selfish family and their deceased daughter."

WOW what a warped opinion. You need prayers more than they do.

36 posted on 08/02/2005 8:30:28 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: CindyDawg

Legitimate claim if that is the case too...

I have a real problem when some people would rather have a child (or other innocent) die, just because the cost of treatment might take a fraction of a penny from their own pocket!


37 posted on 08/02/2005 8:35:45 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: newzjunkey

Our great grand daughter was 12 weeks early. She is doing great although it will take until she is 3 to catch up growth wise.


38 posted on 08/02/2005 8:36:37 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: CO Gal

According to U.S. law the mother had no right to life should her NOK claim she'd want to die under these circumstances; and the baby wasn't supposed to be human until months later. As it's written, God will not be mocked.


39 posted on 08/02/2005 8:38:23 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: newzjunkey
"As it is the girl is horribly tiny and the chances of her being completely healthy and without complications are probably not high."

Thanks for the medical prognosis, doctor Kevorkian. But many people are born unhealthy or with complications. And those who are not will inescapably develop health issues and 'complications' at some time in their life. So what?

40 posted on 08/02/2005 8:43:55 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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