Skip to comments.9-1-1 tapes released in baby car death
Posted on 08/04/2005 7:05:52 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
The death of a 1-year-old boy is prompting a local day care to change its policy. Madison's Place Daycare will now call every parent if a child is not dropped off by 10 a.m. The change comes immediately after a Lubbock mother forgot to drop her toddler off at day-care. By the time she remembered, he was dead.
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arrest the mother for negligence. its the only way to deal with this. the burden should not be on the day care center. once the day care center does this, if this should happen again, the parent will now say "but, the day care center never called me. Its their fault.". its nuts.
Public schools in many areas call if a child has not appeared at school.
Parents must call if their child will be absent, there is no reason why this can't be done in day care as well.
It's not about blame, it's about saving babies.
when my children were in day care I called them if they weren't going to be there, it is not the responsibility of the day care to do what the parents should be capable of doing.
Yeah, that'll teach her.
Would this happen if the kid were dropped off at grandma's? How about if the mom stayed home and watched her own kid?
If you are gonna attach blame (that's a bit if!) then don't blame the daycare.
Well now I know where full-sized cars come from.
so you suggest she just walk away from this? In NY now, if you run over a cat or dog and don't stop to try and find the owner - its a crime now. but this mother should walk?
Already done; I had one and it worked great for keeping track of my kid while camping: Parent Pager.
(No, I don't own the company or stock.)
I agree that that the daycare changing their policy is going to leave them open for future lawsuits.
I don't agree that jail time serves any purpose, if that's what you're proposing.
A stiff jail sentence will do nothing.
Unless the mom has a proven track record of neglect, alcohol or drug abuse, etc., why wouldn't a community service sentence be appropriate?
I'm sorry, how does one get too busy to forget you have a kid? It's called irresponsiblity.
NO, it couldn't. Speak the truth, harsh though it may be. This is infanticide disguised as utter, unbelievable stupidity, or it is utter, unbelievable stupidity.
And, if she's that stupid, do you want her driving a two ton hunk of metal down the street toward you? Or maybe when your kids are crossing the street? How about when they're taking your wife to the hospital in an ambulance - you want her in front of you on the road?
as long as she faces some review of the incident. I would question her, her co-workers, to see if they notice if she routinely puts anything in the rear seat like a purse or a briefcase - something that would have normally caused her to use the rear seat when exiting the car for work.
< NO, it couldn't. Speak the truth, harsh though it may be. This is infanticide disguised as utter, unbelievable stupidity, or it is utter, unbelievable stupidity. >
There was a time when I would agree with you. But...
My nephew has NEVER taken the baby to day care. Two week ago his wife had an appointment and he had to take the baby to daycare on the way to work. He drives by it everyday. He just never has to stop in the morning. He has picked her up in the evening many times.
He drove right past the daycare and parked in his usual spot at work. He was just sitting down at his desk when a co-worker called and asked about the baby left in the car. He panicked and nearly fell down the steps running back to his car. When he got there a crowd had formed. Most everyone said they had had similar "scares".
We get into habits. He got out of the car and did not look back. His seats have high backs and you really have to look to see a car seat back there. However, his wife, because she's heard and read about all of these episodes of babies being forgotten, had left a message on his phone at the office the NIGHT before to ask if he had indeed dropped the baby off. She fully intended to call when she thought he had arrived there that morning too.
I just HEARD the 911 call. Heartbreaking. I also heard something that I hope is true. The reporter said police told the TV station that the baby could have died within minutes, not hours. I hope he didn't suffer too long.
Well, I'll not argue the point.
There's a video link at the bottom of the photo boxes (just right of the story) on the KCBD page...the 911 audio is part of that video package.
Hard to listen to...even harder to imagine being any of the people connected with that call.
I'm hearing that her husband is a professor.
Your nephew is lucky. He also needs to focus more.
Its time for a tough love law...The law states,you leave a baby in the car and it dies,you go to prison for manslaughter...At least a year..Bet you the baby deaths in the hot cars would slow to a crawl...
Negligence at best. Throwing the mother in prison is not going to 'punish' her any more than the thought of having killed her own child will. It also will not serve as a deterrent. The crime here is that she forgot.
There were several attempted kidnappings at the school bus stops here and that is why the policy ws put in place. I agree with the policy.
The alternative is dead babies, in both cases.
I agree with the policy too. But no legal liability.
I have no objection to BABY SAFE drop off points.
NY has PETA lunatics influencing the writing of law.
The death of any human should be investigated.
But there is such a thing as an accident, where no one is actually at fault.
Forgetting is not a crime. It is human error.
If a horrible death and loss of one's child is not enough to slow these incidents... why on earth would a year in jail make people more responsible?
I'm agreeing with the people who are saying that putting car seats in the back seat, turned around, needs to be addressed. And I agree that a car seat in the front would go even further to stem the flow.
Precisely. Some people would like to make that a crime. We have all gotten wrapped up in our thoughts and done dangerous things 99.9% there is no harm. But the .1% when harm is done, it's usually great harm, as in this case. We have all driven in a preoccupied state and reached our destination almost by divine providence. I'm not casting stones at this poor mother.
In a perfect world parents would be responsible, until then we as a society must do all we can to protect life.
Sorry but I don't think the daycare should be babysitting parents by calling them to make sure they haven't killed their kids every day.
Kids shouldn't be in daycare anyway. They should be home with one of their parents instead of these disgusting germ mills.
Speaking of a perfect world, eh?
Just because it doesn't happen, doesn't mean we can't hope for a perfect world!
My heart goes out to this mother.
She will never recover from this.
I can't blame her: how many of us have never had one of those heart-stopping moments of realization that we'd forgotten to do something important and that it was too late to rememdy it?
I'm far from perfect and am just thankful that none of my "OMG, I forgot...!" moments cost the life of one of my children.
If the school makes a policy decision and the parents understand the reason for that policy I see no harm in that.
If a parent object, they can opt out in writing.
Prosecute some of these parents to the fullest extent of the law and somehow I think other parents' memories will improve.
Last year in Philly they didn't prosecute the old guy that left his grand-daughter in the backseat while he went in for a haircut and to hang out with his buddies.
Basically after he dropped of the girl's mother and his wife he says he didn't know that the toddler was still with him because she slid out of the car seat and on to the floor in the backseat.
Mistakes happen. In our already overflowing prison system, we don't need to be sending parents to jail for a simple but costly mistake that was obvious not their intention.
I agree with that.
Personal responsibility is much less costly and easier to implement...achieving better results.
The day care center may be well-meaning, but they are leaving themselves open to a future lawsuit if, for some reason, they don't call and something happens. Or the mother could say falsely, they never called. The call could be traced and verified, of course, but this should not be the responsibility of the daycare center.
Kinda like "Drug Free Zones" and "Gun Free Zones". Sheesh...do we need the damn government to take responsibility for everything?
Inexplicably, neither parent will face charges.
Something isn't right here. Pardon me if this sounds crude but this woman actually didn't notice a dead body in the back seat of her car? A dead body that had been there for 9 or so hours in a hot car?
In most cases like this the child fequently vomits before expiring. Surely the mother must have noticed an unsual smell? She never looked in her rear view mirror the whole time she was driving? She never looked in the back seat before getting in the car when she left work? This is very strange.
"Forgetting is not a crime"
Forgetting your lunch is an error. I'll bet you she wouldn't have left twenty thousand in cash in the back seat. What value did she place on this child's life?