Posted on 08/04/2005 9:17:13 PM PDT by Cautor
Okie, thanks. I agree with everything you say. If you haven't already, you ought to read what Clifford May at National Review Online says about the Plame-Miller-Wilson triangle. I have no doubt Miller and Plame knew each other and that Plame herself--or her gabby hubby--may have sourced Miller, and also David Korn.
I think you mean 10 years at the most. And I think the 10 year timeline you reference is for non-official cover. She may have traveled outside the US with some sort of other cover in the past ten years. But that wouldn't trigger the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.
You are absolutely right. I stand corrected. I certainly meant 10 years at the most as I certainly do not count anything beyond 1994 as covered by the IIPA. Thanks for clarifying my comment.
Cautor has added some new entries for Plame's biography...
Kudos...
Thanks Ken, and I agree with your tagline completely. We can't get enough of either smart women or beautiful women on our side. And Lord knows they're all on our side. If you don't believe me, just look at the nags of NARAL or the rest of that lot.
Great research, Cautor! Kudos!
I think the Vanity Fair piece and others indicate Plame was educated at the London School of Economics on the CIA's dime. I can't think of much else to add.
"They paid $735,000 for the home which records show had previously sold for a mere $44,000."
Man alive, does that ever jump out. It reminds me of so many Clintonite deals, like George Stephanolpolis's. Very fishy.
"A fact worth recalling is that Wilson was on the payroll of the Kerry campaign until he was thoroughly discredited by revelations proving he had lied about how he garnered the Niger trip."
Technically, I believe he was an "unpaid advisor," just like Sandy Burglar. But he was certainly expecting some kind of payment for his services, should Kerry be elected, in the form of a plum job.
Thank you sir. Looks like Wilson and Plame were not hurting in the income department. I doubt they made enough on civil service salaries (or CIA equivalent) to live the life of Riley in the Foxhall area of DC. If you know the area, and I lived there for a while, it's not cheap.
You are certainly right about how Wilson was described--unpaid advisor--a fact that slipped my mind. I agree with you that his service to JFK was not entirely to be pro bono.
You are absolutely correct and I have posted my thoughts serveral times on Free Republic. Fitzgerald needs to wrap this sucker up and indict Miller for criminal contempt and obstruction of justice and throw the book at the crooked Wilson's. That would be true justice in this case.
Superb. I would love to see some footnotes or endnotes, though.
I have suspected for some time that the Plame Game is some sort of a ruse. I suspect that a lot of us here in the FR community have our theories. Quite a number of pundits on the right do as well, apparently.
There are just too many oddities in the whole thing for the reality of what happened to be what has been presented to the public via MSM coverage.
First and foremost, we have the highly improbable situation where Judith Miller is sitting in jail to protect Karl Rove. Matt Cooper almost took the fall, too. I find it very hard to believe that either of the companies these folks respectively work for would retain employees that were willing to go this far to stick up for the Bush Administration, expecially when it might involve bagging Karl Rove.
I am also bothered by the fact that there is very little to show for this alleged Niger trip by Joe Wilson. To add further suspicion, we have the fact that both Wilsons apparently had a certain animosity toward Bush and the Iraq war. Lastly, we now have the report that memos suggesting that this was a nepotistic venture getting Wilson over there in the first place.
The other previous "leaks" of Plame were new to me. I missed the original work sone on FrontpageMagazine by Ben Johnson.
Frankly, I remain committed to my original theory that Wilson is the origin of his wife's own leak, staging it with the knowledge that it would keep him out of the hot seat for an obviously bungled mission, keep his wife employed, all the while damaging the Administration and the Iraq War.
Joseph Wilson's Amazing Left-Wing Dreamland
I am sure more is to follow. I wish we could pull more out of Novak. Novak and Miller must know more.
nice summary of the facts.
Well, when the MSM gets the 'synopsis' of Plame/Wilson right . . .or they feed that 'elephant in the livingroom'; I will more optimistic.
Cannot figure that either. . .surely Novak has pulled the magic thread by now. . . (Drudge carrying ap story (yesterday/today) of Novak's 'snapping' with James Carville on air. . .and earning himself a 'forced vacation'. . .as they moved into Plame/Wilson territory. . .
On the other hand, I still want to know how they had enough money to buy that house (as well as the other expensive components of their lifestyle) right after Wilson retired. His company was just getting started, Plame was still on the government payroll, and he had no other source of income other than his pension.
I'm sure Novak is jumping out of his skin to discuss the Plame/Saudi angle, but the legal agreements force him to keep silent and look like he's stonewalling. He's ethical and has built a decades long reputation as straight shooter. Must be tough to get baited by Carville and everyone else.
Hard to blame him for being upset about the situation.
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