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Mother Teresa's House of Illusions
Free Inquiry Magazine ^ | unknown | by Susan Shields

Posted on 08/05/2005 8:11:31 AM PDT by petconservative

Mother Teresa's House of Illusions How She Harmed Her Helpers As Well As Those They `Helped' by Susan Shields

The following article is from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 18, Number 1.

Some years after I became a Catholic, I joined Mother Teresa's congregation, the Missionaries of Charity. I was one of her sisters for nine and a half years, living in the Bronx, Rome, and San Franciso, until I became disillusioned and left in May 1989. As I reentered the world, I slowly began to unravel the tangle of lies in which I had lived. I wondered how I could have believed them for so long.

Three of Mother Teresa's teachings that are fundamental to her religious congregation are all the more dangerous because they are believed so sincerely by her sisters. Most basic is the belief that as long as a sister obeys she is doing God's will. Another is the belief that the sisters have leverage over God by choosing to suffer. Their suffering makes God very happy. He then dispenses more graces to humanity. The third is the belief that any attachment to human beings, even the poor being served, supposedly interferes with love of God and must be vigilantly avoided or immediately uprooted. The efforts to prevent any attachments cause continual chaos and confusion, movement and change in the congregation. Mother Teresa did not invent these beliefs - they were prevalent in religious congregations before Vatican II - but she did everything in her power (which was great) to enforce them.

Once a sister has accepted these fallacies she will do almost anything. She can allow her health to be destroyed, neglect those she vowed to serve, and switch off her feelings and independent thought. She can turn a blind eye to suffering, inform on her fellow sisters, tell lies with ease, and ignore public laws and regulations.

Women from many nations joined Mother Teresa in the expectation that they would help the poor and come closer to God themselves. When I left, there were more than 3,000 sisters in approximately 400 houses scattered throughout the world. Many of these sisters who trusted Mother Teresa to guide them have become broken people. In the face of overwhelming evidence, some of them have finally admitted that their trust has been betrayed, that God could not possibly be giving the orders they hear. It is difficult for them to decide to leave - their self-confidence has been destroyed, and they have no education beyond what they brought with them when they joined. I was one of the lucky ones who mustered enough courage to walk away.

It is in the hope that others may see the fallacy of this purported way to holiness that I tell a little of what I know. Although there are relatively few tempted to join Mother Teresa's congregation of sisters, there are many who generously have supported her work because they do not realize how her twisted premises strangle efforts to alleviate misery. Unaware that most of the donations sit unused in her bank accounts, they too are deceived into thinking they are helping the poor.

As a Missionary of Charity, I was assigned to record donations and write the thank-you letters. The money arrived at a frantic rate. The mail carrier often delivered the letters in sacks. We wrote receipts for checks of $50,000 and more on a regular basis. Sometimes a donor would call up and ask if we had received his check, expecting us to remember it readily because it was so large. How could we say that we could not recall it because we had received so many that were even larger?

When Mother spoke publicly, she never asked for money, but she did encourage people to make sacrifices for the poor, to "give until it hurts." Many people did - and they gave it to her. We received touching letters from people, sometimes apparently poor themselves, who were making sacrifices to send us a little money for the starving people in Africa, the flood victims in Bangladesh, or the poor children in India. Most of the money sat in our bank accounts.

The flood of donations was considered to be a sign of God's approval of Mother Teresa's congregation. We were told by our superiors that we received more gifts than other religious congregations because God was pleased with Mother, and because the Missionaries of Charity were the sisters who were faithful to the true spirit of religious life.

Most of the sisters had no idea how much money the congregation was amassing. After all, we were taught not to collect anything. One summer the sisters living on the outskirts of Rome were given more crates of tomatoes than they could distribute. None of their neighbors wanted them because the crop had been so prolific that year. The sisters decided to can the tomatoes rather than let them spoil, but when Mother found out what they had done she was very displeased. Storing things showed lack of trust in Divine Providence.

The donations rolled in and were deposited in the bank, but they had no effect on our ascetic lives and very little effect on the lives of the poor we were trying to help. We lived a simple life, bare of all superfluities. We had three sets of clothes, which we mended until the material was too rotten to patch anymore. We washed our own clothes by hand. The never-ending piles of sheets and towels from our night shelter for the homeless we washed by hand, too. Our bathing was accomplished with only one bucket of water. Dental and medical checkups were seen as an unnecessary luxury.

Mother was very concerned that we preserve our spirit of poverty. Spending money would destroy that poverty. She seemed obsessed with using only the simplest of means for our work. Was this in the best interests of the people we were trying to help, or were we in fact using them as a tool to advance our own "sanctity?" In Haiti, to keep the spirit of poverty, the sisters reused needles until they became blunt. Seeing the pain caused by the blunt needles, some of the volunteers offered to procure more needles, but the sisters refused.

We begged for food and supplies from local merchants as though we had no resources. On one of the rare occasions when we ran out of donated bread, we went begging at the local store. When our request was turned down, our superior decreed that the soup kitchen could do without bread for the day.

It was not only merchants who were offered a chance to be generous. Airlines were requested to fly sisters and air cargo free of charge. Hospitals and doctors were expected to absorb the costs of medical treatment for the sisters or to draw on funds designated for the religious. Workmen were encouraged to labor without payment or at reduced rates. We relied heavily on volunteers who worked long hours in our soup kitchens, shelters, and day camps.

A hard-working farmer devoted many of his waking hours to collecting and delivering food for our soup kitchens and shelters. "If I didn't come, what would you eat?" he asked.

Our Constitution forbade us to beg for more than we needed, but, when it came to begging, the millions of dollars accumulating in the bank were treated as if they did not exist.

For years I had to write thousands of letters to donors, telling them that their entire gift would be used to bring God's loving compassion to the poorest of the poor. I was able to keep my complaining conscience in check because we had been taught that the Holy Spirit was guiding Mother. To doubt her was a sign that we were lacking in trust and, even worse, guilty of the sin of pride. I shelved my objections and hoped that one day I would understand why Mother wanted to gather so much money, when she herself had taught us that even storing tomato sauce showed lack of trust in Divine Providence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catholic; fraud; motherteresa; revisionistcrapola; teresa
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1 posted on 08/05/2005 8:11:32 AM PDT by petconservative
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To: petconservative

A Mother Theresa hit piece. Now I've seen it all.


2 posted on 08/05/2005 8:15:41 AM PDT by jtminton (Help stop second hand rap!)
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To: petconservative

No good deed goes unpunished. RIP Mother T.


3 posted on 08/05/2005 8:16:20 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: petconservative

I think the real motivation for attacking Mother Theresa is that she was Pro Life. That abortion culture has never forgiven her. When she accepted the Nobel Prize, she gave an uncompromising Pro Life pitch.

If you join an order where you take a vow of poverty, why complain about the lack of luxuries?


4 posted on 08/05/2005 8:19:59 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Where is our Charles Martel? Who will be our hammer against Islam?)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

From someone who worked closely with her, no less. An eye witness you could say.


5 posted on 08/05/2005 8:20:35 AM PDT by petconservative (4 more years (ilovemybush))
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To: petconservative
Translation: I couldn't hack my vocation. Rather than admit I'm a failure, I'll slander a dead woman who can't defend herself.

Pathetic.

It didn't work when Hitchens said less inflammatory garbage, and it certainly won't work when it comes from a disgruntled loser.

6 posted on 08/05/2005 8:20:42 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: petconservative

Satan won that unfortunate soul over. How sad. What a twisted view of the most basic of Christ's teachings. These "beliefs" weren't created by Mother Theresa.. they were established by Christ and she lived her life in "obedience" to Christ's teachings. This woman needs prayers in a big way.


7 posted on 08/05/2005 8:21:08 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: petconservative
From someone who worked closely with her, no less.

No.

From someone who claims to have worked closely with her.

An eye witness you could say.,p>One could also a liar.

And the latter is more accurate.

8 posted on 08/05/2005 8:22:21 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: jtminton

"A Mother Theresa hit piece. Now I've seen it all."

And a hit piece after the Mother Theresa is dead. How convienent. Unreal. I read the whole article and didn't see anything wrong with Mother Theresas actions or beliefs. Strange


9 posted on 08/05/2005 8:22:46 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: jtminton
It's not the first. Christopher Hitchens did one on her just after she died.
10 posted on 08/05/2005 8:23:59 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("The only ho I'm pimpin' is Sweet Lady Propane." -- Hank Hill)
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To: Integrityrocks
What a twisted view of the most basic of Christ's teachings.

The giveaway is the lie in the first paragraph about Mother Teresa saying that suffering "gives you leverage over God."

She would never have said such a blasphemous thing.

She taught, of course, that suffering unites us more closely to Christ because he suffered for us.

11 posted on 08/05/2005 8:24:25 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
Remember a few years back when Mother Theresa was speaking to a group that included the Clintons and Gores? She didn't mince words about abortion. For some reason, the aforementioned slimes found it necessary to inspect the tops of their shoes during most of that speech. I loved it.


12 posted on 08/05/2005 8:25:14 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools reluctantly since 1947.)
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To: RepoGirl

Yup. No matter how clearsighted he is on terrorism, I'll never forgive his punk ass for that one.


13 posted on 08/05/2005 8:25:31 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: petconservative
Our Constitution forbade us to beg for more than we needed, but, when it came to begging, the millions of dollars accumulating in the bank were treated as if they did not exist.

It is a good thing that people receiving millions of dollars in charitable donations would be resigned to a life of poverty. Otherwise, there would always be the temptation to spend some of that money on themselves, as this woman apparently wanted to do: "Why should we have to live like the peasants we're helping? We have millions of dollars!"
14 posted on 08/05/2005 8:25:46 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: petconservative

Ok, here we go….

Anybody who know anything about what nuns vows and practices are know that this piece is probably right on the money.
Self denial, mortification, renouncing pretty much every worldly connection, it is all factual representation of nun-life.

In that, I see nothing wrong with this article.

One might argue the efficacy of such a life, but the existence of it is undeniable...


15 posted on 08/05/2005 8:26:27 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: petconservative
The author appears to be completely ignorant of Catholic religious life which is surprising.

A vow of poverty means the religious live in poverty. A vow of obedience means the religious defer to their superiors. Not because those superiors are always right but for the sake of practicing discipline.

Personally, I wouldn't join a group I understood so little about.
16 posted on 08/05/2005 8:28:12 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: Monterrosa-24; petconservative
The donations rolled in and were deposited in the bank, but they had no effect on our ascetic lives and very little effect on the lives of the poor we were trying to help. We lived a simple life, bare of all superfluities. We had three sets of clothes, which we mended until the material was too rotten to patch anymore. We washed our own clothes by hand. The never-ending piles of sheets and towels from our night shelter for the homeless we washed by hand, too. Our bathing was accomplished with only one bucket of water. Dental and medical checkups were seen as an unnecessary luxury. Mother was very concerned that we preserve our spirit of poverty. Spending money would destroy that poverty. She seemed obsessed with using only the simplest of means for our work.

She missed the point entirely and apparently her head was turned by the money. Mother Teresa wanted the sisters to live like the very poor of India that they helped, and it seems they do.

As a Missionary of Charity, I was assigned to record donations and write the thank-you letters. The money arrived at a frantic rate. The mail carrier often delivered the letters in sacks. We wrote receipts for checks of $50,000 and more on a regular basis.

Sounds like her head was turned by the money.

She became disillusioned and left the community. Only speaking out now long after Mother Teresa's death and shortly after Pope John Paul II's passing, he being a great friend of hers and admirer of her work. How cowardly. Truly someone who doesn't get it. And to slander Mother and her sisters so long after her death, at a time of increased violence against the Christians of India, wow. She has added to the misery of the poor Christians, and other poor, of India. Pathetic.

17 posted on 08/05/2005 8:30:37 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Integrityrocks

It sounds like this womans prayers were answered when she left that cult.


18 posted on 08/05/2005 8:30:55 AM PDT by zek157
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To: jtminton
Now I've seen it all.

Don't be surprised. Some people even try and slander Elron Hubbard and the Church of $cientology

19 posted on 08/05/2005 8:31:46 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Free Katie Holmes)
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To: petconservative
What is the charge here? I don't get it. She professed poverty, she lived poverty. She professed monastic obedience, and she lived it. Her particular vocation and order is not for everyone, or the Church would require it of everyone.

It is about a particular vocation, and if you pretend you have a vocation when you don't, if you try to bamboozle God, you don't have a beef if it doesn't work out your way.

The real clue that this article is a venomous hit-piece is the line about suffering giving one leverage over God. If Mother Teresa really thought that (which clearly she didn't) she was a heretic. Nothing gives anyone "leverage" over the Almighty. But folks who bring misunderstanding to the table often walk away with what they brought. Um, that which goeth around cometh around, as the prophets have said ....

20 posted on 08/05/2005 8:31:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Allahu Fubar! (with apologies to Sheik Yerbouty))
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To: Monterrosa-24; petconservative
I think the real motivation for attacking Mother Theresa is that she was Pro Life. That abortion culture has never forgiven her. When she accepted the Nobel Prize, she gave an uncompromising Pro Life pitch.

Yes, I think that is at the root of it. The author mentions 'helping' women. Did she mean helping them to abortions and contraception while they starved? And so now they exact their vengeance at a time when none can defend, as though they need defending, their words and actions. Cowards. Heinous.

The donations rolled in and were deposited in the bank, but they had no effect on our ascetic lives and very little effect on the lives of the poor we were trying to help. We lived a simple life, bare of all superfluities. We had three sets of clothes, which we mended until the material was too rotten to patch anymore. We washed our own clothes by hand. The never-ending piles of sheets and towels from our night shelter for the homeless we washed by hand, too. Our bathing was accomplished with only one bucket of water. Dental and medical checkups were seen as an unnecessary luxury. Mother was very concerned that we preserve our spirit of poverty. Spending money would destroy that poverty. She seemed obsessed with using only the simplest of means for our work.

She missed the point entirely and apparently her head was turned by the money. Mother Teresa wanted the sisters to live like the very poor of India that they helped, and it seems they do.

As a Missionary of Charity, I was assigned to record donations and write the thank-you letters. The money arrived at a frantic rate. The mail carrier often delivered the letters in sacks. We wrote receipts for checks of $50,000 and more on a regular basis.

Sounds like her head was turned by the money.

She became disillusioned and left the community. Only speaking out now long after Mother Teresa's death and shortly after Pope John Paul II's passing, he being a great friend of hers and admirer of her work. How cowardly. Truly someone who doesn't get it. And to slander Mother and her sisters so long after her death, at a time of increased violence against the Christians of India, wow. She has added to the misery of the poor Christians, and other poor, of India. Pathetic.

21 posted on 08/05/2005 8:33:22 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: petconservative
In the face of overwhelming evidence, some of them have finally admitted that their trust has been betrayed, that God could not possibly be giving the orders they hear.

Kool Aid cooler talk...

22 posted on 08/05/2005 8:33:30 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: petconservative

Forget the theological musings, which amount to about five or six lines of the whole piece. Can anyone refute the facts that are alleged? These are not new issues, and have been raised for years, well before Mother Theresa's death. The only way to answer the critics is through transparancy, something Mother Theresa went to great pains to avoid. Get beyond the PR and look at what she really did. Much of it was good, some of it was not.


23 posted on 08/05/2005 8:34:05 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: petconservative
Was that money not used for anything?

A vow of poverty is one thing, having to beg for your food is another.

And even if this is 100% true, I don't see that as such a big deal. People are imperfect.

24 posted on 08/05/2005 8:34:11 AM PDT by technochick99 (firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: wideawake
Punk ass is right. He's famous for hit pieces on people after they die, which I find particularly reprehensible and low.

Mother Teresa practically rose to saint hood (in my eyes) when I heard the story of how she sat with a dying woman in an alley in Calcutta. The woman was beyond help, had maggots in her mouth, and had been an Untouchable. MT sat with her, soothed and comforted her, until she passed on. I doubt Hitchens, or the dimwit who wrote this other piece, would have the mercy to do that.

When Hitchens implied that she embezzled donations, although he offered no substantial proof. Takes a big tough guy to make such a claim, especially when the subject of the piece can't fight back.

25 posted on 08/05/2005 8:35:12 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("The only ho I'm pimpin' is Sweet Lady Propane." -- Hank Hill)
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To: jtminton
A Mother Theresa hit piece. Now I've seen it all.

You haven't been here very long, have you?

Christopher Hitchens was a commentator during coverage of her funeral and spent all his time bashing her.

26 posted on 08/05/2005 8:35:16 AM PDT by RosieCotton (Literature is a luxury; fiction is a necessity. - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: petconservative

Sounds very much like the Clinton Administration and liberals in general.


27 posted on 08/05/2005 8:36:58 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: fortunecookie; Monterrosa-24; petconservative

Oops, see #21, not 17. Hiccup!


28 posted on 08/05/2005 8:37:45 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Monterrosa-24
If you join an order where you take a vow of poverty, why complain about the lack of luxuries?

Right! "Luxuries" such as basic medical and dental care. I'm glad I'm not your spouse.

29 posted on 08/05/2005 8:37:54 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: zek157

You are a moron of the first water.


30 posted on 08/05/2005 8:38:32 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: technochick99

When donations are solicited for helping the poor, and are not used for that purpose, that's what we call fraud. That's just as true whether the funds are used for gambling sprees or just sit around in a bank. Mother Theresa took money under false pretenses, pure and simple.


31 posted on 08/05/2005 8:38:32 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: petconservative
Ms. Shields better be careful..


32 posted on 08/05/2005 8:39:49 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: wideawake

Why thank you very much. I take that as a compliment from the likes of...


33 posted on 08/05/2005 8:40:57 AM PDT by zek157
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To: SunnySide
And a hit piece after the Mother Theresa is dead. How convienent. Unreal. I read the whole article and didn't see anything wrong with Mother Theresas actions or beliefs. Strange.

Agree. But it does raise an eyebrow. It'd be interesting to see if any others step up to address this "from within." Also, I had no idea that her "organization" was that large. I was always under the impression that she operated with a much smaller number of people out of a single location overseas.

Based on ever-evolving news, I also wouldn't be shocked if this were in fact true. Who knows, we may never find out.

What I do know is that while very generous charity wise, I only give to organizations where I know the money is going to "end causes." I won't give a dime to any organization without a high degree of visibility and tangible/visible results.

Samaritan's Purse and the Marine Christmas program are two such charities.

34 posted on 08/05/2005 8:42:03 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
When donations are solicited for helping the poor, and are not used for that purpose, that's what we call fraud.

You have not a shred of evidence that these funds were not used to help the poor.

Mother teresa's been dead for years - nobody's discovered her Maserati collection yet. No word about any private islands or all-night cocaine binges either.

The woman was a saint, you'll never do as much for the poor, neglected and suffering in your life as she did in one week.

35 posted on 08/05/2005 8:42:14 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: zek157
You won't finish the sentence, because you are sucking scum.
36 posted on 08/05/2005 8:43:28 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Fruitbat
In her book, Life in the Spirit: Reflections, Meditations, and Prayers, "Mother" Teresa says on pp. 81-82:

"We never try to convert those who receive [aid from Missionaries of Charity] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God's presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for this better men -- simply better -- we will be satisfied. It matters to the individual what church he belongs to. If that individual thinks and believes that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the way God comes into their life -- his life. If he does not know any other way and if he has no doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his way to salvation."
37 posted on 08/05/2005 8:45:06 AM PDT by petconservative (4 more years (ilovemybush))
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To: wideawake

"Mother teresa's been dead for years - nobody's discovered her Maserati collection yet. No word about any private islands or all-night cocaine binges either"

rotflmao... now that's funny! Mother Theresa doing 90 mph in a maserati flinging loafs of bread to the road side poor. Shame on you for fueling my imagination.


38 posted on 08/05/2005 8:46:04 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: wideawake

Sorry, it's diet coke not scum. I do drink to many of them. Thanks for the concern.


39 posted on 08/05/2005 8:46:50 AM PDT by zek157
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To: wideawake

400 million of her 500 million collected donations when into the Vatican Bank. 75% of the remainder fed her staff.That can be verified.


40 posted on 08/05/2005 8:46:57 AM PDT by petconservative (4 more years (ilovemybush))
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To: petconservative

I heard that Mother Teresa was bitching to God about the size of her halo compared to that of Princess Di's and then God pointed out that Di's was not a halo but a steering wheel.


41 posted on 08/05/2005 8:47:57 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Fruitbat
Mother Teresa's sisters, like Mother Teresa, live as the people they serve live.

That means that if you live in India you get the same medical care as a poor Indian does.

Very few women join the order because it is an uncompromising self-sacrifice.

42 posted on 08/05/2005 8:48:24 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Fruitbat

"Luxuries" such as basic medical and dental care. I'm glad I'm not your spouse."

Oh my wife gets her teeth cleanings every six months. But she is not working with poor in an ascetic order of nuns. I believe BASIC MEDICAL CARE was indeed provided to the Order. You don't really believe this malcontent author do you?


43 posted on 08/05/2005 8:50:55 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Where is our Charles Martel? Who will be our hammer against Islam?)
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To: NormB
The first 14 posts should have given an indication that logical discussion on this topic was not to be allowed.


Now all together ... Let's kill the messenger.



44 posted on 08/05/2005 8:52:24 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: petconservative
What? the Missionaries of Charity - a Catholic order - keeps its funds in a Catholic bank?

No way!

What a scandal!

Is that really all you have to back the slander up? That the Missionaries run a tight ship and save their money for future charity work?

45 posted on 08/05/2005 8:53:10 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: petconservative
From someone who worked closely with her, no less. An eye witness you could say.

I was one of her sisters for nine and a half years, living in the Bronx, Rome, and San Franciso...

I don't believe Mother Teresa spent too much time in any of these locales. This slanderer former sister must be mistaken.

46 posted on 08/05/2005 8:59:25 AM PDT by jla
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To: petconservative

Actually, I am a personal friend of the author of this piece.

The job with Mother Teresa was actually Sue's third occupation after leaving school. Her first job was tasting pies at a local pie factory; she quit that job because she decided she didn't like pie. Then she went to work at the mattress plant testing out mattresses, but she soon decided that was too stressful.

I never will forget the time my dad had paid several thosand dollars for a special hunting dog that could walk on water - he didn't have to swim to retrieve game. I invited Sue to go hunting with us, but didn't tell her about the dog's amazing talent. We shot ducks and Ol' Shep trotted across the water to get the birds every time. Sue never acknowledged Shep's ability. Finally, I turned to Sue and asked. "Do you notice anything about the new hunting dog?"
"Yeah", Sue said, "The sumbish can't swim."

This story is about as true as the author's!!


47 posted on 08/05/2005 8:59:58 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: petconservative

"Another is the belief that the sisters have leverage over God by choosing to suffer. Their suffering makes God very happy. He then dispenses more graces to humanity."

Oh boy. A badly cathecized Catholic convert. Why do they join austere orders in the first place?

I think she really misunderstands the concept of attachments and how one overcomes every attachment to every creature other than God and by creature I mean his creations and gifts. That attachment also extends to one's comfort and pleasure.


48 posted on 08/05/2005 9:01:46 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: zek157
Thanks for the concern.

I am concerned about you, in reality, since you apparently hate Jesus with such a passion.

49 posted on 08/05/2005 9:02:43 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: RosieCotton

This woman has obviously not read "The Story of a Soul", about Saint Therese of Lisieux. I am almost done reading it now, and I am sickened by my actions in comparison with one that provides a true example of how to Love the Lord.


50 posted on 08/05/2005 9:02:55 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (Nobody ever has to defend a virtuous position)
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