So far, (and surprisingly), the University of Illinois has withstood the PC pressure to change the school's team name and mascot. Leave the Chief alone, NCAA.
Posted on 08/05/2005 8:52:05 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.
The NCAA's executive committee decided this week the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools, committee chairman Walter Harrison said Friday.
Nicknames or mascots deemed ``hostile or abusive'' would not be allowed by teams on their uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.
``What each institution decides to do is really its own business'' outside NCAA championship events, he said.
Guidelines were not immediately available on which logos and nicknames would be considered ``hostile or abusive.''
The NCAA two years ago recommended that schools determine for themselves whether the Indian depictions were offensive.
Among the schools to change nicknames in recent years over such concerns were St. John's (from Redmen to Red Storm) and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles).
The NCAA plans to ban schools using Indian nicknames from hosting postseason events. Harrison said schools with such mascots that have already been selected as tournament sites would be asked to cover any offensive logos.
Such logos also would be prohibited at postseason games on cheerleader and band uniforms starting in 2008.
The St. John's name Redmen had nothing at all to do with indians. (Think Orangemen of Syracuse.) However they did used to have an indian mascot.
Was just about to post this.
Wondering if PETA will start to lobby the political correct worshipers and call for a ban on animal nicknames.
I'm sure that changing the names of the mascots will finally pull Native Americans out of the poverty stricken situations most of them find themselves in.
/sarc
Looks like I'm going to start boycotting NCAA events now, too.
First of all, and I know he had little to nothing to do with this, but Myles Brand may be the biggest tool on the face of the earth.
Every Illinios fan that goes to an NCAA event should dress in full Indian garb. Every single one.
Next they'll ban Schwarzenegger from attending...
Are the Communists going to be offended by the Cincinnati Reds now?
What about the farmers being offended by the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
I don't even want to think of Dr. Pierce's feelings regarding the University of Iowa mascot....that's just offensive to TV Korean War doctors everywhere...
So far, (and surprisingly), the University of Illinois has withstood the PC pressure to change the school's team name and mascot. Leave the Chief alone, NCAA.
We used to refer to them as the Semi-holes of Half Ass U.
What a bunch of knee-jerk politically correct morons.
Will they allow an Indian mascot to appear in suit and tie?
As a voting member of the Choctaw nation (seriously) I would like to formally lodge a protest against the NCAA for forcing schools to abandon mascots who personify the proud heritage of native people. Seeking to pacify a few in the name of political correctness they are actually further repressing an honorable link to the history and remembrance of a proud people who have already been marginalized by public actions and policies.
As the saying goes: Thanks for nothing.
I wonder if Syracuse will have to wear white uniforms, instead of orange?
I grew up in Dublin. I'm offended by the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. Make them change to the 'peaceful paddies'! Waaaah!
The NCAA's mascot should be the PCBirdbrains.
NCAA president's address while still pres at Indiana University. This is all you need to know about Brand.
In a commencement titled entitled “Making a Moral Difference” at Atlanta’s Oglethorpe University in 2003, Myles Brand, who had just assumed the role of president of the National Collegiate Athletic Association quoted Jane Addams. He read, “To attain individual morality in an age of demanding social morality, to pride one’s self on the results of personal effort when the time demands social adjustment, is utterly to fail to apprehend the situation.”
He went on to quote socialist and supporter of women’s suffrage, Mary Heaton Vorse, who said in her book A Footnote to Folly: “When a new idea assaults the power of established authority, authority always screams out that morality has been affronted. It makes no difference if this idea is that the world is round or that women should vote or that the workers should control industry.”
"Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles)."
Good gosh! Warriors is a tribute, and it's deemed offensive?!
I have some Irish in me, let me be the first to call for Notre Dame to change it's mascot! (Hit the NCAA where it counts, the wallet). Fighting Irish is certainly more offensive than Warrior!
Oh, and I wish they'd force my alma mater to change it's mascot. Zips. I'm offended by how stupid it is. :)
The "Fightin'" Irish is probably the most offensive of them all (the only thing that would make it worse is the "Drunken, Fightin'" Irish) and they seem to accept it just fine. In fact, rumor has it that a few Irishmen (is that PC? I know "Chinaman" is.) founded the school. But that's probably just an urban legend.
So, in order to avoid offending anyone, we shouldn't be seeing the "Vikings", "Norsemen", "Sooners", "Orangemen", "Saints", "Demon Deacons", "Cornhuskers", "Fighting Irish" or anything of the like, should we?
Oops, I just found out from an Englishman that Chinaman is definitely not PC. I should tell my fellow Amishmen.
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
East High School in Rochester, New York, is the Orientals. East Orientals.
Don't tell the folks at Occidental college.
Or Scandanavians being offended by the Minnesota Vikings? Do you think the PC thought police will pay any attention to that? I am convinced they won't.
Hey... watch it! You've got FSU alum on this here thread. I voice my protest against this, but I'll admit that I'm not the first bit concerned that it's going to effect the team's gameplay. Oh darn... Now the Nole cheer squad will have to wear something that DOESN'T have a logo covering their chests. Shucks!
I am not totally against schools or pro sports teams using Native American related names or mascots. However, two things bother me. One is the name Washington Redskins, and the other is the logo for the Cleveland Indians.
Two possible solutions: First, if teams do change their names, during the postseason the student body could wear full headress in the stands. If teams decide to change their names, I suggest "The White Dominators." The PC crowd should love that.
Pretty soon they'll all have lousy, innocuous names like the Moorhead Spuds.
"And now...your 2005 national champion Nebraska State Oppressors!"
I could think of some great names for Moorhead....
Just some indian history.
Do they have cute cheeleaders? LMAO.
Hey, it's done wonders for blacks since they got their own month and got rid of confederate flags as state symbols :-)
"Or Scandanavians being offended by the Minnesota Vikings?"
As a lifelong LA/St louis Rams fan I have been offended by the Minnesota Vikings for many years.
"...and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles)."
I still don't understand why it is offensive for a sports team to be called the "Warriors."
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
Have any of you ever pondered the term "Yankee" or the real meaning behind the song title "Yankee Doodle Dandy"?
Yankee doodle dandy translated from the British slang of the late 1700's means self pleasuring cross-dresser.
As an American I am deeply offended by that term and I think the ACLU should sue.
Thanks, BlueNgold!
Note that the Michigan State Spartans, the Fighting Irish of ND, the Virginia Cavaliers, etc. are OK because they're named after white people.
Also, the Minn. Vikings & Boston Celtics are safe.
Consistent.......right?
"However, two things bother me. One is the name Washington Redskins, and the other is the logo for the Cleveland Indians."
You let things bother you too easily. I grew up with the goofy Indians logo, and I can tell you, I never once, not once, considered that logo representative of native Americans. The Indians were named to honor a native American player for the team, (Cleveland Spiders at the time).
The Fighting Irish mascot is a leprechan, why doesn't that bother you? I mean, all all irish small in stature and combative?
The Vikings use a primitive guy with a hammer. Why doesn't that bother you? Do you think Scandanavians are violent and carry weapons?
*sigh* No wonder PC rules.
I'm still waiting for the University of Pittsburgh Polacks and the CUNY-Staten Island Guineas myself.
The University of Massachusetts(UMASS) were once known as the Redmen but that was changed to Minutemen. The Minutemen name was challenged by minority students who thought the image of white men with rifles was intimidating but after heated debate the Minutemen name remains. They should have changed the name to the UMASS Debaters.
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