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US politicians demand equipment of the A380 with anti-missile defense
Der Spiegel ^ | August 2005, 12:45 | Staff

Posted on 08/07/2005 4:29:08 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

In the US house of representatives on a law one works, which prescribes an anti-missile defense system for all "jets with more than 800 seats". World-wide gives exactly one airplane, which fulfills this criterion: the A380. Meanwhile Singapore criticized airlines that the distribution of the new superairbus retards.

Hamburg - in the competition with the European airplane manufacturer airbus can rely the US competitor Boeing after a report MIRRORS on support from the American parliament. The chairman in the aviation committee of the house of representatives, John Mica, started a legislative initiative, which aims alone at the airbus A380, which is installed in Toulouse and in Hamburg its interior equipment receives: New jets "with a maximum passenger capacity of at least 800 seats" or a take-off weight of at least 450 tons would have to be equipped after these Lex A380 with protective systems against portable air defense rockets.

a "irresistible goal for terrorists

The regulation is to become effective at the latest two years after permission of such protective systems by the US aviation authority FAA. It would alone concern the new superairbus, which Mica a "irresistible goal for terrorists" called. The past jumbo jet jets of Boeing remain under the borders.

On behalf of the US government Northrop Grumman, like military protective systems, examines about lasers, for the diversion of warm-looking for rocket heads into civilian air liners to be scaffolded could. The arms ruestungsschmiede had supported Mica with election campaign donations. The procedure reminds of times, since US authorities wanted to forbid for noise protection reasons the approach to the European supersonic flier "Concorde" on New York.

Annoyance threatens the airbus company also from Asia. The airline Singapore airlines (SIA) showed up in the weekend extremely annoyed that the distribution of the airbus superjumbo jet A380 retards around presumably eight months. "I would have wished myself, said more honesty" SIA boss Choon Seng Chew in an interview. Singapore airlines is the first airline, which wants to use the largest passagierflugzeug of the world commercially. "airbus used rather for a long time, in order to admit that the A380-Programm lags behind, said to the schedule" the boss the magazine "focus".

"would have wished me more honesty"

After the words of the SIA boss the European aircraft manufacturer can deliver the first machines instead of in March 2006 only at the end of November 2006. The late supply "disturbs our capacity planning enormously", said Chew. Like that all plans for the training of pilots, hostesses and technicians are and the SIA older Boeing 747-400 from traffic to pull wanted. "fly now longer", said Chew.

To the question about consequences it answered: "I am a respectable customer. And I would like to believe further that airbus is a respectable enterprise. It is, airbus wants to me to signal that I am not to buy not one airplane with them more." Furthermore Chew pointed out that the SIA is entitled after the clauses of a contract a remuneration. "it is as during a taxi travel: The longer the travel, the more expensively. Each further month delay becomes more expensive for airbus ", said the enterprise boss.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Germany; Government
KEYWORDS: 747; a380; airbus; aviation; boeing; manpad
If the US requires the A380 to be equipped with anti-missle defenses, I'm sure the EU will require 747's be equipped with them too.

This article was translated from German to English by Babelfish.

Here is a link to the translated article.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

1 posted on 08/07/2005 4:29:09 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; ...

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2 posted on 08/07/2005 4:30:23 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Get ready for U.S. vs. E.U. version 2.0
3 posted on 08/07/2005 4:31:35 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
SUVs should be equipped with roof-mounted swivel twin fifties, too just in case a Terrorist stages an attack at the mall.
4 posted on 08/07/2005 4:34:22 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: Paleo Conservative

These systems are just entering service on military aircraft. This technology can't cross over to civil aviation soon enough.


5 posted on 08/07/2005 4:35:54 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (NRA)
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To: Paleo Conservative
superairbus retards

He said it, I didn't.

7 posted on 08/07/2005 4:37:37 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: COEXERJ145; Paleo Conservative

Yep...here we go again...


8 posted on 08/07/2005 4:38:12 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: RightWhale
LOL

"SUVs should be equipped with roof-mounted swivel twin fifties.."

Now that would get me to buy a SUV.

10 posted on 08/07/2005 4:45:37 PM PDT by A message (RINOs and Democrats must be voted out of office for the safety of our nation.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Sheesh.

Good to see Congress doesn't have more important things to vote on. Everything must be hunkey-dorey in the world.


11 posted on 08/07/2005 4:48:06 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: FreedomPoster
"These systems are just entering service on military aircraft"

They have had them for years. y dad flew on a C141 back in the early 80's that antimissile systems installed. I believe Israeli airliners have them installed.

So which system are you talking about?
12 posted on 08/07/2005 4:50:32 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Paleo Conservative
No problem, just give each pilot a couple boxes of Christmas tree tinsel that he can throw out the window to distract the SAM.

During Viet Nam that's about all the B52s had.

13 posted on 08/07/2005 4:51:42 PM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is the only thing. Those who glorify losing are unclear on the subject of democrac)
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To: Paleo Conservative
If the US requires the A380 to be equipped with anti-missle defenses, I'm sure the EU will require 747's be equipped with them too.

Exactly - any plane with capacity above 400 seats and with the model name starting with letter "B" will have to get it :)

14 posted on 08/07/2005 4:51:56 PM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! ")
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To: Paleo Conservative

I wonder if that is because the system to that task is a US based system. Thus the EU crown jewel builder would have to buy USA parts.


15 posted on 08/07/2005 4:56:53 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

A GP7200 engined A380 has about 50% US made parts by value.


16 posted on 08/07/2005 5:00:54 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The New EU Anti-missile A-380 retrofit will require a drastically shortened design, the new Livery will be Yellow with black and the revision will be known designated (ES 380) or, Eurotard Shortbus 380. It will also feature inflatable waterwings an added set of outboard landing gear that can be removed or adjusted upwards as pilots increase their proficiency.
17 posted on 08/07/2005 5:03:43 PM PDT by Capn TrVth ("India, -dangling like a chad from the ballot of Asia")
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To: RightWhale
SUVs should be equipped with roof-mounted swivel twin fifties, too just in case a Terrorist stages an attack at the mall.

Why leave those of us who like good-handling sports cars out of the mix? :-)

18 posted on 08/07/2005 5:07:24 PM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: COEXERJ145

More stupidity from a congress that doesn't understand economics or logic, just knee jerk BS and regulations.


19 posted on 08/07/2005 5:18:45 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Apply generously to sunburned or irritated skin as needed)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Lets not forget, this is the "brilliant" John Mica, who earlier this year proposed another very stupid set of regulations.

Courtesy of Mike Boyd's Aviation Hot Flash

http://www.aviationplanning.com/asrc1.htm

Mica Strikes Again
You Airlines Better Buy US-Made, By Golly

Speaking of security, there was an interesting news story involving the very congressman whose committee is responsible for oversight of the TSA. Apparently, he believes that there are other areas that need to be made safe from foreign invaders.

In this case, it's our airliner manufacturing industry. Which, by they way, now consists mostly of Boeing, Boeing, and, of course, Boeing.

John Mica (R-FL) is one of those politicians who has a gift for substituting bluster, blather, and great one-liners for hard results. Mica is like a '57 Chevy with no muffler and a chromed-up six. All show and very little go.

He's been outspoken about the failures of the TSA, but hasn't done anything to hold the agency or its leaders accountable. To the contrary, in front of the C-Span cameras he does a great impersonation of Mr. Smith Goes To Washington, standing up for all that's good and right, and tearing into the TSA. But in other venues, he actually praises the clowns running the agency. And he has never demanded anybody at the TSA be fired.

Now, Let's Buy American, Even If It Isn't. But the good congressman also wants to be known as the guy who stands up for the American aircraft industry.

This past week, one of Mica's greatest legislative triumphs finally became law. He put a provision into some legislation requiring US airlines to "reveal" to passengers where the airplane they're sitting on was built. In fact, according to news reports, this vital information must be located on the emergency procedures card in every seat-back pocket. Right next to the barf bag.

What a comfort this will be to the passenger trying to get to the nearest exit in an emergency. You can just see the lively repartee as people scramble to the doors... "Gee, Marge, doesn't it feel so patriotic that we've crashed in an American-made airplane!..."

Mica's intent, probably, was to shame airlines like United and Frontier and jetBlue from buying any more of them furrin-built airplanes. Oh, the embarrassment those carriers must feel, now that they gotta reveal that that A-320 was built in, eek, France! Or the A-319 came from some Third World plant in, yuck, Germany.

John, We'd Like To Invite You To Visit Reality. Mica really needs to get out more. Like into the real world. He's obviously totally unaware that we're now in a global economy.

Let's take a look at Boeing's latest offering - the 787 Dreamliner. Let's go the whole route, and reveal where the plane was really built. Not where it was screwed together, but where the thing was actually constructed from bare metal. (Or in this case, bare metal and lots of composite stuff.)

Surprise to Mica. Guess what, the 787 ain't no All-American, baseball-and-apple-pie made-in-the-USA product.

The fact is that building an airliner is no different than other products in today's global economy. A laptop computer, for example, may have components that, when taken all together, may represent over a hundred border crossings. The cooling fan may have been made in Taiwan, but the assembly it's attached to is made in Mexico, the plastic case it gets installed in comes from China, the final assembly is in the Philippines, and the packaging and shipping of the completed unit is in the US.

So, where is the thing "made?"

If the the intent is to identify which is the country of origin, there isn't one. Neither is there such a thing in regard to an airliner. Somebody ought to tell that to Rep. Mica before he attempts any more legislative high jinks.

Is This What Congress Is Concerned With? It's time for a drug test when a congressman wastes the time and energy to a) contemplate such stupid legislation, b) goes through the motions to insert the provision, c) gets the FAA involved to waste time assuring compliance, and d) is actually proud of such jingoistic nonsense.

The whole thing is the legislative equivalent of writing stuff on the mens room wall.

Perhaps it's no coincidence that on Mica's website, under the page containing "Accomplishments In The 109th Congress," it simply says "Under Construction."

Indeed it is.

Injecting more cold reality into this nonsense, Mica might be distressed to know that even the final assembly of America's newest airliner isn't an exclusive red white and blue affair. For example, that big plant in Wichita - you know, the one that built B-29s in W.W.II, and where major parts of the 787 will be glued together - well, it's now Canadian-owned.

The cost to the airlines to comply with Mica's grand legislation was just over half a million bucks. That's according to the FAA, who we trust will be doing random checks of seat-back pockets to make sure no airline is trying to hoodwink the public.

Yessir, airlines are spending $500 large to put another tidbit of information on airplanes that will have absolutely no utility value whatsoever.

Kinda like Mica and his committee - on both sides of the aisle.

(c) 2005, The Boyd Group/ASRC, Inc. All Rights Reserved

20 posted on 08/07/2005 5:27:41 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Apply generously to sunburned or irritated skin as needed)
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To: JSteff

DIRCM


21 posted on 08/07/2005 6:15:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (NRA)
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To: Paleo Conservative
quote The airline Singapore airlines (SIA) showed up in the weekend extremely annoyed that the distribution of the airbus superjumbo jet A380 retards around presumably eight months /quote

In the software industry, promoting and selling a product you don't already have available is known as vaporware. I wonder what they call it in the airline industry...retards?

22 posted on 08/07/2005 6:51:45 PM PDT by Surtur (Free Trade is NOT Fair Trade unless both economies are equivalent.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

This is simply stupid. The republicans are leading this? I'll have to add this to a "stupid republican" list.


23 posted on 08/08/2005 8:12:23 AM PDT by Paradox (John Bolton: "How am I supposed to live without U(n)".)
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