Posted on 08/07/2005 9:58:33 PM PDT by lunarbicep
A 15-year-old boy who pinched and twisted the nipples of a 13-year-old has been sentenced to three days of community service for harassment.
David Thumler, 15, said the "titty-twister" was just horseplay. The mother of 13-year-old Matthew Cox counters that the incident was humiliating for her son, who saw it as an assault from an older, bigger bully.
"They're not friends," she said. "If he was my son's friend, it would be a different thing," said Bobby Cox.
In addition to the community service, Thumler has been ordered to pay a $67 fine and the misdemeanor has been placed on his permanent record. He can request to have it removed when he turns 18.
Ken Chapman, a Jackson County juvenile probation supervisor, said Oregon law defines physical harassment as "offensive physical touching."
That includes such adolescent antics as "wet-willies," "wedgies," "swirlies," "noogies" and all other forms of "Three Stooges" behavior, Chapman said.
According to David, the two boys were in line at a local deli when Matthew jokingly made an embarrassing remark to the female clerk about David. In retaliation, David counterattacked with the "titty-twister," the 15-year-old said.
"It's a thing of camaraderie," David said. "If he's going to assume our friendship is on that level, then so am I."
A lawyer hired by the 15-year-old's family called the juvenile court's actions "Orwellian."
"They call this 'baby assault,'" said Michael Kellington, a criminal defense attorney in Medford, hired by the family.
Even Bobby Cox said she was surprised to hear that her husbands' call to Gold Hill police resulted in court time for the boy. "Nobody informed me it would be a full-blown trial," she said.
According to Kellington, the incident was blown out of proportion in part because David's mother refused to let him show up for an initial hearing in juvenile court. Christine Alford, David's mother, said she did not let her son attend the hearing because she had seen photos of teenagers in handcuffs on the county's Web site.
Kellington said that Alford's refusal to let David go upped the ante and brought down "unfair, Draconian measures" upon her son. What should have been a discussion between first-time-offender and a representative of the juvenile justice system became a court trial.
"The mom is understandably fearful," said Kellington. "You shouldn't retaliate for the decision of a parent upon the child."
Chapman, the juvenile probation supervisor, said the mother should have known better.
"'Hearing' doesn't mean 'taking into custody,'" he said. "When we take someone into custody, we don't make appointments. If there's a consequence for not coming in informally, well, that's one they chose."
Nyuk nyuk nyuk!
Oooooooooh Scarrry.....
I don't think the Stooges ever did a "titty twister." The eye-poke thing, yes. Hitting the other guy over the head with a hammer, yes. Smacking him with a board or a pipe, yes. Squeezing the nose with a pair of pliers, yes. But no titty twisters. That's just juvenile.
As opposed to "teddy-turner" and the other Bobby Cox.
The 3 Stooges never did that. How dare the MSM defame our beloved Stooges!
Whistle and I will let go.
No chance of seeing a titty twister in any episode. A pineapple with a string attached to it, yes.
the MSM let "facts" get in the way?
I thot maybe he did the handsaw across the top of the head ... the stooges never did 'the twister'
How far will we let the weak-kneed sissies go? Man there used to be a time when people actually took pride and stuck up for themselves, even if it meant getting their butts kicked. Speaking from experience here, and it earned me respect.
...howcome Mommy was speaking for the 13-year old? Teens are adults who can have abortions and deserve privacy. So why is Mom butting in--and where is NAMBLA, Planned Parenthood and the ACLU to stand up for this homosexual, consensual behavior and tell Mom to shut up?
/sarcasm
I thought that a titty twister called for a knee to the 'nads! It worked for me!
WTF??? Have people gone insane?
What (at most) should have been a conversation between parents and children has become a nanny-state circus, complete with the entire entourage.
How can children learn to sort their differences out like adults when the adults go running to the authorities over stuff this dumb?
The humiliation of a "titty twister" is nothing compared to being in the news for mom and dad whining about it.
ARRRRRRGH!
I don't remember that ever happening on "The 3 Stooges."
But I'm with the mother. I wanted to kill a lot of people in school who did that to me.
lol!
The judge's ruling is indicative of the heinous nature of the titty-twister. Unlike the double-finger eye poke, which can be neutralized by the counter-move of placing the hand vertically flush with the nose and perpendicular with the face, the titty-twister has no known countermove. Thus, a more stiffer sentence for its use is warranted.
The judge's ruling is indicative of the heinous nature of the titty-twister. Unlike the double-finger eye poke, which can be neutralized by the counter-move of placing the hand vertically flush with the nose and perpendicular with the face, the titty-twister has no known countermove. Thus, a more stiffer sentence for its use is warranted.
It could happen, since they're represented by the firm of . . .
This maneuver is known as 'Curly Protection' and was widely practiced by pre-teens and psychologically arrested pre-adults until the late 1980s when Ted Turner took the fun out of everything.
The father is a prime example of feminized male....he felt so strongly about it he called the cops...but couldnt be bothered to call the kids parents...or heaven forbid actually have the balls to drive over and knock on the door...
The kid is going to grow up just like his wussie dad....
I'd had died of embarrasment if I spilled even half of what was normal taunting of other kids...One gets even...even if you get yer ass kicked...
Wonder how bad the kid will be taunted now?...his mommy and daddy had to call the cops over a titty twister?
Liberalism IS a mental disorder...and it's spreading...
This gal is a trouble making idiot from the get-go. She is a former Gold Hill city (Hah! City? Running joke, is more like it.) councilwoman, who has publicly stated she is a trouble maker, and proud of it.
I can't believe she didn't know the difference between showing up for a preliminary hearing, and being arrested.
I'm sorry her son has her for his mother; and sorry he has to pay extra for her stupidity. Still, I hope he learned to keep his hands to himself.
If we just keep making whining weenies out of our kids, then it will only take a generation or two for some other country to come in and take over by bruising egos and lowering self esteem with epithets over loudspeakers, turning the population into sniveling globs of spineless protoplasm.
Hell, they won't even have to load their rifles.
I can't disagree with anything you said.
You know, JOKINGLY is usually found at the start of MOST law school questions in TORT..
If that fails, attack back...
Such as, Mr. Smith jokingly drove his car into Mrs. Jones.
Lawyers are getting in the way of our kids being kids.
more like parents running to lawyers thats getting in the way of our kids being kids
Hmm. I think I'm in the clear. What's the statute of limitations on a wedgie?
What about 'Indian burns' and 'red bellies', and 'slugs' when you forget to holler 'safety!' after you burp?
I think an overhand, double slap of the "tittie twisting hands" hands would be my countermove........... The momentum would bring the hands full circle onto my own head, resulting in 2 coconut sound effects, but breaking the hold of the tittie twister.Opening offenses could be a simple eyepoke up to an advanced ear-box.
Sorry, "Indian burns" (we called them Indian rope burns) are out of the question now. Someone might be offended.
A good sharp kick in the ankles sounds like it would be in order. A slap? That's sissy.
That made me laugh out loud! Ah, there aren't enough pineapples on strings in movies anymore.
Very true! Also, the Stooges (and liking or hating thereof) is one of the most reliable gender signifiers known to science.
In my day and place, they were called "snake burns." If one was an Indian giver, one might get snake-burned in return.
Teenagers ought to be able to resolve these types of issues without parental interference. No wonder there seems to be more and more 29 year old children still living at home with mommy and daddy.
You were never smaller than everyone else or a geek, were you? Picked on daily? Dreading going to school every day? I mean, yes it helped form my character, but I could have done without it. And I think it is up to the authorities to get bullies early.
Gee, to think I could have had Garry Graham thrown in the slammer.
He never twisted anything... he just beat the crap out of me periodically.
On second thought, no, I couldn't have. That was the early to mid-sixties. Society was a bit saner then.
Dan
$33.50 per nipple sounds a little extreme for me.
LOL!
If they arrested all of us and charged us with assault as kids who pulled three stoges moves on each other, well, we would have been an entire generation of crimminals.
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