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Nagasaki remembers its atomic fate
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Posted on 08/08/2005 8:43:37 PM PDT by soundandvision

NAGASAKI, Japan (AP) -- A siren wailed and a bronze bell rang out through the air Tuesday as Nagasaki marked the exact moment 60 years ago that an American airplane appeared in its skies and dropped the plutonium bomb "Fat Man," killing some 80,000 people and sealing Japan's defeat in World War II.

About 6,000 people, including hundreds of aging bomb survivors, crowded into Nagasaki's Peace Memorial Park, just a few hundred meters (yards) from the center of the blast, for a solemn remembrance and moment of silence.

When the silence ended, Nagasaki Mayor Iccho Itoh had some angry words for the leaders of the nuclear powers, and especially the United States.

"To the citizens of the United States of America: We understand your anger and anxiety over the memories of the horror of the 9-11 terrorist attacks," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Japan; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anniversary; nagasaki; wwii
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This is maddening. "To the citizens of the United States of America: We understand your anger and anxiety over the memories of the horror of the 9-11 terrorist attacks,"

Comparing Fat Man and Little Boy to the terrorist attacks on 9/11 is intellectual sophistry.

Uh, didn't Japan attack us first?!?! Good grief.

1 posted on 08/08/2005 8:43:37 PM PDT by soundandvision
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To: soundandvision
Nagasaki remembers its atomic fate

Good.

2 posted on 08/08/2005 8:44:59 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: soundandvision

The weird thing is, you always hear all about Hiroshima, but you almost never hear anything about Nagasaki.


3 posted on 08/08/2005 8:45:17 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: soundandvision

4 posted on 08/08/2005 8:46:30 PM PDT by TheBigB (I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party.)
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To: soundandvision

Another stupid thing about comparing Hiroshima/Nagasaki to 9/11 is what happened afterward. When the Japanese surrendered, we went over there and helped them build one of the most prosperous Democratic nations in history.

What happened after 9/11? Did bin Laden come over here and help rebuild the World Trade Center? Did he come to help with reconstruction, and try to build a better, more enlightened nation out of the U.S.?


5 posted on 08/08/2005 8:48:13 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: soundandvision
Nagasaki Mayor Iccho Itoh had some angry words for the leaders of the nuclear powers, and especially the United States.

Let's never forget that those bombs ended a war that Japan started by killing Americans, and if Japan had had the bomb they would never have hesitated to use it against the US.

That being said the two bombs themselves are reported to have killed less people than the Japanese military killed in their rape of China which is conveniently forgotten.

Above all else some Americans are alive today because there was no invasion of the Japanese homeland.

6 posted on 08/08/2005 9:02:26 PM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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To: pcottraux

Great point.


7 posted on 08/08/2005 9:02:35 PM PDT by soundandvision
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To: soundandvision

Happy Nagasaki Day!


8 posted on 08/08/2005 9:12:57 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: soundandvision
Nagasaki remembers its atomic fate

It had better.

9 posted on 08/08/2005 9:14:30 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil

"I hate to break this to you, but bin Laden is not a country."

I never thought bin Laden is a country. I thought I had made a good point.

Let me rephrase it, then. Did the terrorists come over to help rebuild the WTC? Did al-Q'aida give personal aid and funding to the rebuilding efforts? These are all things the US did after bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

My point is that it is ridiculous to compare 9/11 to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So there. Take that.


11 posted on 08/08/2005 9:29:33 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: Noachian

If we hadn't bombed Hiroshima/Nagasaki and ended the war, millions of other Japanese were going to die of starvation....we saved THEM from THAT!


12 posted on 08/08/2005 9:32:22 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: goodnesswins
We also saved them from being hit with massive poison gas strikes. The U.S. was stockpiling huge amounts of Phosgene, Mustard, and Cyanogen Chloride in the Philippines and Okinawa as well as enough protective gear for our troops. The plans for Operation Downfall contained sections that dealt with offensive and defensive uses of poison gas.
14 posted on 08/08/2005 9:35:10 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil

yawn - another imbecilc troll. git him!


15 posted on 08/08/2005 9:37:09 PM PDT by Libertarian4Bush (the underwear goes UNDER the pants! that's why they call it under-******-wear!)
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil

It's not about which one caused more destruction. It's about what happened afterwards. Is America better off because of 9/11? Not really. Is Japan better off because of the surrender of the militaristic Emperor? Yes.


16 posted on 08/08/2005 9:37:12 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: Libertarian4Bush

I think so, too. What do you do with these guys?


17 posted on 08/08/2005 9:37:37 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil

And they're both morally equal to each other? You're at the wrong place try Du.


18 posted on 08/08/2005 9:38:08 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

I'm a new guy. What do you do when you've run across a DU? I think this is my first.

Did you check out his homepage? He just signed up a few minutes ago.


19 posted on 08/08/2005 9:40:06 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil; Admin Moderator

In before the ZOT.......here kitty kitty.....


20 posted on 08/08/2005 9:41:42 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: pcottraux

Welcome to FR. I checked his page to see if he'd been banned yet, but he's working on it.
Duh is where he belongs.


22 posted on 08/08/2005 9:42:05 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: pcottraux

see post 20.


23 posted on 08/08/2005 9:42:05 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil
I seem to recall both were military targets. They weren't attacking Fresno, they were attacking the equivalent of Beals AFB and surrounding areas. They also took out Mazda's plant.
25 posted on 08/08/2005 9:43:59 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil

Ah....you've really outted yourself now.....


26 posted on 08/08/2005 9:44:07 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: pcottraux

That's because we damned near missed. American's hate inaccuracy.


27 posted on 08/08/2005 9:44:40 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: goodnesswins

Gay troll gets...nuked. ;o)


28 posted on 08/08/2005 9:45:10 PM PDT by TheBigB (I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Interesting....I did NOT know THAT....learn so much here at FR.....THANKS.


29 posted on 08/08/2005 9:45:32 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: goodnesswins

Did he/she say something in #24?


30 posted on 08/08/2005 9:46:05 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: pcottraux

Yes.....can't repeat it.....


31 posted on 08/08/2005 9:46:39 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: goodnesswins

Boy, those mods are fast. I had time to refresh the page once, see the profanity in his new post 24 and then BAM, gone a few seconds later. Truly impressive. :)


32 posted on 08/08/2005 9:47:22 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: goodnesswins

Is he/she/it gone now?


33 posted on 08/08/2005 9:47:46 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: soundandvision

**killing some 80,000 people ***

Has everyone forgotten that after two A-bombs we went back to conventional bombing raids and killed thousands before the surrender?
What gets their panties in a bunch is we used ONE A-bomb on each city. Had we mounted a 100 plane raid on Hiro and Naga and killed as many as we did nothing would be said about it today.


34 posted on 08/08/2005 9:48:35 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Islam, the religion of the criminally insane.)
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil

Hmmm, wonder what I missed?


35 posted on 08/08/2005 9:48:41 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: pcottraux

He/she dropped the F-bomb. Probably tripped an alarm with that one. :)


36 posted on 08/08/2005 9:48:53 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: pcottraux

I'm sure "he/she/it" is gone now.....probably to be re-incarnated under some other name, at another time.


37 posted on 08/08/2005 9:49:20 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: soundandvision

Better a couple of nukes than even a few days of incendiary raids.


38 posted on 08/08/2005 9:52:52 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: goodnesswins

Dirty and vile. Why do they do things like that?

Even his screen name was a lame Al Franken book title rip-off.


39 posted on 08/08/2005 9:53:57 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: soundandvision

We will never forget Bataan, Mayor. And we can relate that to Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot.


40 posted on 08/08/2005 9:54:32 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: soundandvision

Happy N-day everybody. This affected the surrender of people who:
- conducted surgical experiments against Americans with no Anesthetic.

-Who bayonetted Americans who couldn't keep up the pace of the 60 mile march before stopping.

Fanatical suiciders, like the Islam crazies of today.

Everyone think about that before weeping for the Nagasaki "victims".


41 posted on 08/08/2005 9:59:35 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

They need to read "Faith of Our Fathers" to understand the sacrifices of the American soldier and the hideousness of the Japanese as they tortured Americans.


42 posted on 08/08/2005 10:04:47 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: soundandvision

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. And I'm sure they don't want to do that.

But if the situation were to present itself again, we would nuke them again. No question.


43 posted on 08/08/2005 10:12:43 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: pcottraux

Yeah, just imagine Osama's version of an enlightened USA.


44 posted on 08/08/2005 10:18:08 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: Evil Evildoers of Evil

Here's one for you Dr Evil.

45 posted on 08/08/2005 10:24:11 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: soundandvision

Happy Nagasaki Day

46 posted on 08/08/2005 10:28:04 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: soundandvision
Tuff Wruck.

Shouldn't have started it in the first place.

47 posted on 08/08/2005 10:29:01 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: vpintheak

"Yeah, just imagine Osama's version of an enlightened USA."

In the ultimate cruel irony, Jane Fonda and Barbara Streisand would be oppressed and forced to wear burqas and veils, no skin allowed to be shown.


48 posted on 08/08/2005 10:40:54 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: pcottraux

There is always a catch.


49 posted on 08/08/2005 10:44:56 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: vpintheak

And if any of them were raped or attacked, they would have no right to defend themselves. In fact, they would be stoned to death for adultery and/or fornication.


50 posted on 08/08/2005 10:49:15 PM PDT by pcottraux
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