Cindy Sheehan: "My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel."

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[Sam Hill]

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  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Nightline Tonight Mon., March 14, 2005
 

  That was my son's unit. He was killed on that day 04/04/04. Here is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast:
  Love
 

  Cindy Sheehan
 

  March 15, 2005
 

  To Whom it May Concern:
 

  Imagine my distress when I turned Night Line on last night and I was confronted with the gory details of my son's murder in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq on 04/04/04. Imagine, also, my sorrow and rage at the side of the story that you presented to the American public.

[SNIP]

  I was on the Night Line Townhall Meeting in Washington, DC on 01/27/05. After I spoke (which I think was a fluke), Ted Koppel dismissed me as being "emotional." First of all, how can I approach this discussion without emotions, MY SON WAS KILLED, AND KILLED FOR LIES? Second of all, that show was not fair and balanced and I think the conclusion "Should we stay" was foregone.
 

  The show last night was also not fair and balanced. To see all the wives being interviewed who had not lost their husbands and to hear what "hard work" it is to be left behind when their husbands are at war. How hard to you think it is to have a child killed in an illegal and immoral war? In this "wonderful" group of families left behind, we had exactly ONE of the wives call us..she is Diane Rose who was my son's Colonel, Frank Rose's wife. The last time we heard from Diane was in October and we feel we have been left behind by anyone connected to the 2-5 Cavalry. Is support only given if your loved one stays alive? One wife was quoted as saying that Sundays were the hardest for the families left behind. My son was killed on Palm Sunday last year..how does anybody think Sundays are for my family?
 

  Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.
 

  It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.
 

  I also think that Mr. Koppel owes me an apology for the rude way I was treated on his show. After I expressed myself about the war being based on lies and that the troops should be brought home immediately because the war was based on lies, I was not thanked for my comments, or my son's sacrifice. He just said to keep the discussion away from emotions. Then, the wife of a soldier who was killed was allowed to speak and she praised the policies of this deplorable and despicable administration, and she was thanked and praised by the panel.

[F-117A]

Leftist!

[BreauxBridge]

She's gone loony no doubt. But Iraq was no threat to us. Maybe to Israel, but not the USA. It was a secular state and women had more rights than they do in any other state in the region besides Israel.

The Neocon idea of global democracy would make the region more stable. IMO, that's a pipe dream. I just don't think there's any historical precedent for Arab muslim states to adapt to Western democratic principles. Rule of law, individual rights, and secular governments.

And behind closed doors, I'd be willing to bet Bush, Rove, and the rest of the current brain trust agree. In other words, if Bush had to do it all over again, he wouldn't have invaded Iraq.

[Republican Wildcat]

Some people may think that we’re fighting terrorism over there. But when is that job ever going to be complete? Terrorism is just a new “ism.” It was “communism” when I was growing up.

Sounds like she's trying to downplay the threat of terrorism and that of communism during the Cold War.

[Republican Wildcat]

More of her true agenda for all of this is really coming to light as she discusses how Bush "stole the election" in 2000, etc.

[Republican Wildcat]

But Iraq was no threat to us.

Sponsors of international terrorism are of no concern for those who care about U.S. Security. < / sarcasm >

[rockrr]

While "neo-con" conjures up different connotations to different people And mostly offered as a lamer epithet by leftists), the generally accepted meaning is that of an American Jew who adopts a hawkish, right wing stance regarding foreign policy.

[the invisib1e hand]

denial's in there, too. I'm not sure stages are quite that discreet.

[Dane]

She's gone loony no doubt. But Iraq was no threat to us. Maybe to Israel, but not the USA. It was a secular state and women had more rights than they do in any other state in the region besides Israel.

The Neocon idea of global democracy would make the region more stable. IMO, that's a pipe dream. I just don't think there's any historical precedent for Arab muslim states to adapt to Western democratic principles. Rule of law, individual rights, and secular governments.

And behind closed doors, I'd be willing to bet Bush, Rove, and the rest of the current brain trust agree. In other words, if Bush had to do it all over again, he wouldn't have invaded Iraq

Thank you Ms. Cleo and I didn't have to pay $4.95 per minute for your soothsaying.

BTW, nice try at whitewashing saddam, who was harboring terrorists, and had multitudes of prisons and torture chambers.

[Republican Wildcat]

I just don't think there's any historical precedent for Arab muslim states to adapt to Western democratic principles. Rule of law, individual rights, and secular governments.

The same thing was said about Japan and South Korea. There's never "historical precedent" for things when they are first done - there was none here in the U.S. before it was formed. So, that's not exactly an argument.

[GOP_1900AD]

So she is in league with the enemy. She's gone over completely to the dark side. Another anti American, Jew hating, far Left anti Semite creep.

[iconoclast]

Did someone hijack your account, or have you always been allowed on here to talk like this?

Pleased to meet you, relative newbie.

Thinkin bout movin in and takin over?

[Miss Marple]

David Frum was a short-lived SPEECHWRITER. He had no input on policy whatsoever.

Bill Kristol is not a fan of President Bush, and was not offered a job in the administration. He is not trusted by President Bush nor his father. I can document this with references in the attitude towards Kristol discussed in both Dan Quayle's book Standing Firm and in another book about the Bush 41 Administration.

IN addition, Vice President Cheney and Condi Rice and Donald Rumsfeld supported this war. Are you under the impression that they are Jewish, or have you just rounded up any Republican Jew you can think of and decided to accuse them of "pushing" for the Iraq war?

Do you think Rumsfeld was manipulated by Wolfowitz? What evil do you think he will be up to now that he heads the World Bank?

The use of neo-con is obviously a code word for Jews, and you have revealed yourself as being one of those types who likes to blame Jews for everything.

I will pay no further attention to you.

I also note that you have only been here since May.

[Sam Hill]

On 4/30/05 10:35 AM, "SCINDY...@aol.com" <SCINDY...@aol.com> wrote:
 

> Yes Terry,
> I would like to hear your response.
> Multitudes of WMD experts have said that Saddam had no WMD'S and
> wouldn't/couldn't have them for at least a decade.
 

> So why was it so urgent that we invade Iraq in March 2003?
> Why are 1579 brave young Americans dead? Why is my son dead? Why are tens of
> thousands of Iraqis dead? (50 more today in 17 coordinated car bombings).
 

> Could my son be dead because of an evil-neo con Pax Americana agenda?
> Wake up dude. This government has always been in the business of killing
> people. What is even better is if we kill people who are a different color or
> not Christian.
 

> We began the killing as soon as we stepped foot on these shores and the
> killing has gone on unabated for over 200 years.
 

> There has always been excuses for wars, but NONE of them have been good or
> valid.
 

> I hope you feel safer or better because of all the needless killings in Iraq,
> because I sure as heck don't.
 

> Peace in our time,
> Cindy Sheehan

http://tinyurl.com/7rzr3

So no war has ever been justified, Cindy?

No wonder she signs off with "peace in our time" ala Neville Chamberlain.

[GOP_1900AD]

"Neocon" is a code word for "#!(#!& Jew" - the moment one of the moonbats utters it, I have seen through their thin veneer. If we are serious about "never again" then we need to go after these creeps.

[BreauxBridge]

Japan and South Korea weren't muslim. Huge difference.

[Republican Wildcat]

Here is something else for you to consider

[mewzilla]

Apparently Ms. Sheehan has never heard of Salman Pak.

On one of those links I posted, Ms. Sheehan also states that she was supposed to have appeared on the Today show but that the show's crew never showed. Anyone know if Sheehan's ever appeared, or did Today decide to cancel Sheehan's appearance? The again, there's no guarantee that Sheehan's telling the truth about the show, so who knows?

[Age of Reason]

"What the hell is a 'neo-con' anyway?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_(United_States)

[GOP_1900AD]

According to what the UK seem to be putting into policy, she would be subject to treason prosecution. We need to seriously observe what happens in the UK - there is much to learn from their little experiment.

[rdb3]

Spoken like a true LF'er.