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Cindy Sheehan: "My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel."
Cindy's Usenet Posts ^ | Various | Cindy Sheehan

Posted on 08/10/2005 1:47:20 PM PDT by Sam Hill

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  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Nightline Tonight Mon., March 14, 2005
 

  That was my son's unit. He was killed on that day 04/04/04. Here is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast:
  Love
 

  Cindy Sheehan
 

  March 15, 2005
 

  To Whom it May Concern:
 

  Imagine my distress when I turned Night Line on last night and I was confronted with the gory details of my son's murder in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq on 04/04/04. Imagine, also, my sorrow and rage at the side of the story that you presented to the American public.

[SNIP]

  I was on the Night Line Townhall Meeting in Washington, DC on 01/27/05. After I spoke (which I think was a fluke), Ted Koppel dismissed me as being "emotional." First of all, how can I approach this discussion without emotions, MY SON WAS KILLED, AND KILLED FOR LIES? Second of all, that show was not fair and balanced and I think the conclusion "Should we stay" was foregone.
 

  The show last night was also not fair and balanced. To see all the wives being interviewed who had not lost their husbands and to hear what "hard work" it is to be left behind when their husbands are at war. How hard to you think it is to have a child killed in an illegal and immoral war? In this "wonderful" group of families left behind, we had exactly ONE of the wives call us..she is Diane Rose who was my son's Colonel, Frank Rose's wife. The last time we heard from Diane was in October and we feel we have been left behind by anyone connected to the 2-5 Cavalry. Is support only given if your loved one stays alive? One wife was quoted as saying that Sundays were the hardest for the families left behind. My son was killed on Palm Sunday last year..how does anybody think Sundays are for my family?
 

  Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.
 

  It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.
 

  I also think that Mr. Koppel owes me an apology for the rude way I was treated on his show. After I expressed myself about the war being based on lies and that the troops should be brought home immediately because the war was based on lies, I was not thanked for my comments, or my son's sacrifice. He just said to keep the discussion away from emotions. Then, the wife of a soldier who was killed was allowed to speak and she praised the policies of this deplorable and despicable administration, and she was thanked and praised by the panel.


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To: Sam Hill

We are starting a count of her telephone hang ups during interviews (along the lines of Novak's recent outburst on CNN).

Yesterday alone, Sheehan hung up on Tony Snow on his nationwide radio program and she hung up on Bruce Jacobs of KFYI Phoenix. She didn't like the questions they were asking.


51 posted on 08/10/2005 1:58:39 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: LibSnubber

She was on Tony Snow's radio show yesterday and when he started asking her real questions and not just tossing out softballs she got scared and hung up.


52 posted on 08/10/2005 1:58:45 PM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com- freshly updated!!)
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To: Sam Hill

GREAT find.


53 posted on 08/10/2005 1:59:09 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: BlueNgold

SHHHHHHHH!!! How dare you point out the blaring inconsistencies in the looney liberal rhetoric!


54 posted on 08/10/2005 1:59:15 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: mewzilla; All
Better get on that cell phone Cindy, you got some 'splaning to do!


55 posted on 08/10/2005 1:59:19 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Howlin; Mo1; kcvl

From: SCINDY...@aol.com
To: ter...@mweb.co.th
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: me and Casey and great article

In a message dated 3/14/2005 5:11:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, ter...@mweb.co.th writes:
They do not want peace. They do not want an independent Palestinian State. Condi and Bush think they are tough and forcing Syria out of Lebanon, and Iran to give up nuclear power and bombs, but Israel can keep them, and hardly a whisper. Wait and see. Iran is no Grenada. Lots of American young men will have to die like your son ... but the leaders sleep happily and safely in their beds. MARK MY WORDS!
yep

that's why i can't sleep at night!!!
thanks

Cindy

http://tinyurl.com/bncbp


56 posted on 08/10/2005 1:59:19 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: veronica; gopwinsin04
I disagree with her, but how is she being anti-semitic?

Also, how many FReepers (especially those bashing her) have lost a child in combat? That might explain why she is acting a little nutty.

57 posted on 08/10/2005 1:59:30 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: Sam Hill
My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel.

Any fool who takes her side must consider this little ditty, if so, they may be considered antisemitic themselves.

It's telling that liberals are what they accuse conservatives of being.


58 posted on 08/10/2005 1:59:40 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: TomGuy

She hung up on them?

LOL!


59 posted on 08/10/2005 1:59:58 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: jdm

neo con is a code word for jewish


60 posted on 08/10/2005 1:59:58 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: nuffsenuff

I hope someone E mails this to Rush, Hannity.


61 posted on 08/10/2005 2:00:01 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Sam Hill

So, she has gone from blaming Bush to blaming the Joooooooos. What next, is she going to start blaming the Rothschilds and the Freemasons?


62 posted on 08/10/2005 2:00:04 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Sam Hill
Her connection to Wilson and Conyers should be posted on every thread about her:

Cindy Sheehan, Gold Star Families for Peace
cindysheehandsm2.jpg
 
at Conyer's Hearing on Downing Street Minutes
 

Ray McGovern, a former CIA agent (R), places a photo of the son of Cindy Sheehan, founder of Gold Star Families for American Peace(C) on the table as Ambassador Joseph Wilson looks on during an unofficial forum on the Downing Street Minutes on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC June 16, 2005. The document, created in 2002 for British Prime Minister Tony Blair said that United States President George W. Bush was intent on invading Iraq and that intelligence was being manipulated to support Bushs interests. Sheehan's son, Army Specialist Casey Sheehan was killed in Iraq. REUTERS/Chris Kleponis

148 posted on 08/10/2005 4:10:33 PM EDT by Sam Hill

63 posted on 08/10/2005 2:00:21 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: mewzilla

Oh Dear Lord...


64 posted on 08/10/2005 2:00:34 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: retrokitten

When the left finally discards her like a used kleenix she'll have nothing but a heart full of hate to show for her son's life and sacrifice.


65 posted on 08/10/2005 2:00:51 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Sam Hill
"Ixnay on the evil-day ews-jay, Indy-say!"
-Eorge-gay Oros-say
66 posted on 08/10/2005 2:00:52 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: mware
Major US "peace activist", especially when it concerns the Islamist menace, check out GOOGLE SEARCH
67 posted on 08/10/2005 2:00:56 PM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: Sam Hill

BTTT


68 posted on 08/10/2005 2:00:58 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: jdm
What the hell is a 'neo-con' anyway?

To the best of my knowledge it's a foriegn policy distinction. 'Neocons' believe in taking an active role in the world affairs as opposed to isolationaist 'Paleocons' like Pat Buchanan who are closer to the 1930s style anti-Semitic Republicans who were opposed to entering WW2 (a decision which Pat has also questioned).
70 posted on 08/10/2005 2:01:43 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Sam Hill

Hey, anybody tried to interview her estranged husband?


71 posted on 08/10/2005 2:01:50 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Wow! I am surprised she didn't hit the Christian Right as well since she hit on all of Michael Moore's other talking points. Isn't there a dig on Schiavo there somewhere?


72 posted on 08/10/2005 2:02:14 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: LibSnubber

I'm with you. I think she's the ideal postergirl for the looney left. Keep talking, then talk some more, and by all means, keep her in front of the cameras.


73 posted on 08/10/2005 2:02:18 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: Gulf War One

Is this on Drudge yet?


74 posted on 08/10/2005 2:02:55 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: conserv13

Her husband has aleady left her over this, I think she has let the grief drive her completely mad.


75 posted on 08/10/2005 2:02:59 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: mware
Just found this using Hadi Jawad in a search engine.

Radical Encuentro

2002 encuentro event: at Wolf Farm, owned by John L. Wolf, aka "Johnny Wolf", a set designer, Quaker, and co-founder with Hadi Jawad (see below) of the Coalition in Solidarity with the People of Iraq. Wolf's wife Vicki is a yoga instructor in Dallas.

Description: Radical training camp organization putting on occasional events using all-volunteer labor with activities located on private property, then proceeding to perform at orchestrated protest demonstrations in urban areas.

May 2002 session program, from their website:

Themes include past & present struggles, future issues, and hands on training for taking action to make change happen. Each workshop will be 2 hours long.

Past & Present Struggles

Women in the Zapatista Struggle (Melissa, Monkeywrench Collective)

Animal Rights & Ecology (Dr. Steve Best, Associate Professor of Humanities and Philosophy, University of Texas El Paso)

Women in the Black Panther Movement (Althea Francois, former leader in New Orleans chapter of the Black Panther Party, later key member of Central Committee in Oakland, CA)

Exposing Corporate Greed (David Cobb, Texas Green Party; P.O.C.L.A.D., former corporate lawyer)

Indigenous Rights (Nelly Ramirez, La Raza Unida; Reuben, Mexika Eagle Society)

Political Prisoners (Chris Plummer, recently released Anarchist political prisoner; Reckless, Austin Anarchist Black Cross; chickpea)

Texas Death Penalty Abolition Movement (Gloria Rubac and Njeri Shakur)

Iraq: the sanctions & oil (Hadi Jawad, secretary of the American Muslim Alliance; Coalition in Solidarity with the People of Iraq)

ExxonMobil teach-in (impacted community representatives, PressurePoint, GreenPeace, Human Rights Campaign, and more)

Non-Violence: History and Tactics (Lisa Fithian)

Future Issues Anti-oppression and anti-racism (Cathy Berry, Satya, Ruckus Society)

Media Activism (Tish Stringer, Houston Indymedia Center)

Green Party: Keeping it Radical & Diversifying (Karla Aguilar & Joleen Garcia, Campus Greens)

Anarchist Movement Building (Ernesto Aguilar, Houston ABC)

Indigenous Rights (panel discussion: Tristan, American Indian Movement Houston chapter and more)

Vision and how we might get there (Anne Tagonist, Khalil)

Hands on Training Basic Climbing (Tracy Hayes, Texas Drug Policy Reform Movement; Cesar Maxit, UPROAR; Satya, Ruckus Society)

Conflict Resolution (Theresa, Austin Copwatch)

Consensus-based Decision Making/Facilitation (TBA)

Media Training (TBA)

Art & Puppets (Cesar Maxit, Uproar; Gabriel Delgado, Houston Art Car Museum; Rhizome Collective)

Silk-Screening T-shirts (Chicano/a)

Permaculture/Sustainable Revolution (Skotty & Vicki, Rhyzome Collective)

Direct Action (Cathie Berrey, Satya, Ruckus Society)

These topics are subject to change as planning for the camp continues.

Our invited keynote speakers are: Dr. Rania Masri with Peace Action and Southern Exposure speaking on "Middle East: womens' struggles, militariziation, and oil" and Susanna Almanza with PODER (People Organized in Defense of Earths Resources / Pueblo Organizado en Defensa de la Tierra y sus Recursos) speaking on "corporate power vs. people in low income neighborhoods."

Some of the groups we have contacted to facilitate workshops, participate or speak so far are: North Texas Independent Media Center, POCLAD, UPROAR, Chicano/a, Campus Greens, Houston Anarchist Black Cross (ABC), Dallas ABC, Austin ABC, Coalition to Free the Angola 3,PODER, Rhyzome Collective, I.W.W., Biosquat, Houston American Indian Movement, African United Front, Mexia Eagle Society, Human Rights Campaign, Dallas Gay Lesbian Alliance, Monkeywrench collective, Pressure Point, Ruckus Society, Human Rights Campaign, former members of the Black Panther Party, Peace Action.

76 posted on 08/10/2005 2:03:01 PM PDT by mware (Now we know why the NYT didn't have time to cover AIR AMERIKA)
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To: conserv13
I disagree with her, but how is she being anti-semitic?

She's blamimg the Jews for the war in Iraq. Don't you know Bush is just a puppet of the evil Jews?

77 posted on 08/10/2005 2:03:05 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Sam Hill

George Bush is a "Jew Lover!" Sig Heil!


78 posted on 08/10/2005 2:03:16 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: Sam Hill

Lord! She spins farther and farther out of sanity!


79 posted on 08/10/2005 2:03:23 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: Sam Hill

Guess who has views very similar to Cindy?
Hint- he was also on the Nightline panel with Cindy that same night.
And he's married to Valerie Plame ( who I heard works for the CIA.)

Joseph Wilson gave this lecture at UCSanta Barbara on Jan 22, 2003.
"Iraq, Disarmament or Conquest ? The Case Against Regime Change ."

" Ever since the first Gulf War there has been a small cabal of zealots in Washington who have been driving an agenda designed to overthrow Saddam Hussein,
not because he has weapons of mass destruction,
not because he may or may not be linked to terrorism,
but because they want to establish a beachhead in the Arab world from which to work to change the political map of the Arab world and
essentially ensure Israel 75 more years of security
by enfeebling the Arab governments that are arrayed against it."

God forbid we enfeeble the Arab governments and support Israel. ( sarcasm off )


80 posted on 08/10/2005 2:03:25 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Sam Hill
"My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel."

81 posted on 08/10/2005 2:03:48 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
I agree wholeheartedly with you. Many people are angry with her. I can't be because I don't know how I would react in a situation such as this. I am very, very disgusted and angry at the people who's agendas allow them, with no compunction, to exploit this woman's grief.
82 posted on 08/10/2005 2:04:10 PM PDT by asp1
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To: Sam Hill

Ahhh... the stench of anti-Semitism seeps into the air...


83 posted on 08/10/2005 2:04:48 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Fudd Fan

I think they use "neo-con" because they think it will remind people of the word "neo-nazi," and is their subtle way of trying to equate conservatives with nazis.

Like those idiot Rolling Stones, I doubt any of them really know what the term means (which is understandable, since it really doesn't mean ANYTHING)...


84 posted on 08/10/2005 2:05:22 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Rosemont
I am surprised she didn't hit the Christian Right

I'm sure we are next....
85 posted on 08/10/2005 2:05:29 PM PDT by PaulaB (Who knows? not me........)
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To: conserv13

She is part of the Joe Wilson / John Conyers impeach Bush parade. That's why she is acting "a little nutty."


86 posted on 08/10/2005 2:05:45 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Sam Hill

The plot thickens. Not only is she a moonbat, she's an anti-Semitic moonbat.


87 posted on 08/10/2005 2:05:51 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Sam Hill

Lebanon had been under the heel of Syria for decades. Believe it or not, Beirut used to be known as the 'Paris of the Middle East' and for too long the entire country has been a pawn largely due to its geographic location. "Forcing Syria out of Lebanon" was HUGE. I don't have much patience with ignorance like that.


88 posted on 08/10/2005 2:05:59 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: pabianice

Why do Conservative Christians get tagged with Ant-Semitism when it is plainly a tool of the left.


89 posted on 08/10/2005 2:06:01 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: billnaz

"The plot thickens. Not only is she a moonbat, she's an anti-Semitic moonbat."

So are her pals Joe Wilson and Ray McGovern.


90 posted on 08/10/2005 2:07:00 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Rosemont

Its the devil calling the hell hot....


91 posted on 08/10/2005 2:07:32 PM PDT by PaulaB (Who knows? not me........)
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To: Rosemont

I bet she's a star in his next film.


92 posted on 08/10/2005 2:07:36 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: mewzilla

"The Iraqi people aren’t freer, they’re much worse off than before you meddled in their country"

How does she know that? Has she asked the Iraqis? It iritates me to no end that these moonbats claim Iraq is worse off. That isn't what the soldiers are saying that are over there. I trust them better than some moonbat who doesn't have a clue.


93 posted on 08/10/2005 2:07:36 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: Fudd Fan
It gets worse. Remember Lynne Stewart? Check out this link. From the link:

Sheehan said she considered Lynne Stewart her Atticus Finch, the lawyer who defended an innocent Black man accused of rape in the book and film “To Kill A Mockingbird.”

“They’re not waging a War on Terror but a War of Terror,” she said. “The biggest terrorist is George W. Bush.” She claimed “it costs $66,000 to recruit one soldier, not including training, and $49,000 a year to house a prisoner, yet only $6,000 per year is spent to educate a child in California. (Recruiting costs are actually $15,000 per soldier, the cost of housing a prisoner in California for one year is $26,000.)

Sheehan continued, “9/11 was Pearl Harbor for the neo-conservatives’ agenda” and declared the U.S. government a “morally repugnant system.” Then she raged:

We have no Constitution. We’re the only country with no checks and balances. We want our country back if we have to impeach George Bush down to the person who picks up the dog sh-t in Washington! Let George Bush send his two little party animals to die in Iraq. It’s OK for Israel to have nuclear weapons but we are waging nuclear war in Iraq, we have contaminated the entire country. It’s not OK for Syria to be in Lebanon. Hypocrites! But Israel can occupy Palestine? Stop the slaughter!

94 posted on 08/10/2005 2:07:37 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Oh my God! In your pic of crazy Cindy with Wilson and Conyers... is that a BABY picture of her son they're putting out on the table? What the hell? What's wrong with a picture of him all grown up, looking proud in his military uniform?

What's next libs? Cute(?) baby pics of Saddam and Arafat?


95 posted on 08/10/2005 2:07:43 PM PDT by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: Rosemont
Isn't there a dig on Schiavo there somewhere?

I believe there already has been.

96 posted on 08/10/2005 2:08:39 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: Rosemont
The woman has clearly snapped. The Jews get blamed for a lot of stuff from crackpots; now, they have to add this woman's screed to the list of stupid things that people say about them.

Also, if Israel were the big bogeyman that she believes them to be, then wouldn't she be concerned that Moussad would be ready to cap her? Oh well, moonbats like this are never consistent - even their conspiracy theories contradict one another.
97 posted on 08/10/2005 2:08:54 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
by enfeebling the Arab governments that are arrayed against it."

And Wilson was actually an ambassador? What a dumbass.

The Israelis have been kicking Arab ass for over 50 years - feeble governments or not. No matter how many times the Arabs attacked them.

That's the *real* reason the Arabs stay perpetually angry at Israel; they're embarrassed.

98 posted on 08/10/2005 2:09:11 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: Fudd Fan
Well there we have it. This pathetic woman has been totally brainwashed by the evil, loony left

Or Pat Buchanan? Or Lew Rockwell?

99 posted on 08/10/2005 2:09:26 PM PDT by r9etb
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later read


100 posted on 08/10/2005 2:09:45 PM PDT by Mo1
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