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Millennial Mistake Jamie Gorelick’s dangerous “wall of separation.”
National Review Online ^ | April 15, 2004 | Mark Levin

Posted on 08/11/2005 3:20:03 AM PDT by YaYa123

In his public testimony before the 9/11 Commission the other day, Attorney General John Ashcroft exposed Commissioner Jamie Gorelick's role in undermining the nation's security capabilities by issuing a directive insisting that the FBI and federal prosecutors ignore information gathered through intelligence investigations. But Ashcroft pointed to another document that also has potentially explosive revelations about the Clinton administration's security failures. Ashcroft stated, in part:

... [T]he Commission should study carefully the National Security Council plan to disrupt the al Qaeda network in the U.S. that our government failed to implement fully seventeen months before September 11.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911commission; 9llcommission; gorelick; gorelickmemo; gorelickwall; jamiegorelick; marklevin; sandyberger; thewall; weldon
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1 posted on 08/11/2005 3:20:04 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123
Gorelick MUST be brought to task for what she did.

So glad to see this is being brought out.

2 posted on 08/11/2005 3:23:05 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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To: Darkwolf377
Gorelick MUST be brought to task for what she did.

If/when this is done, the Libs will be the first to scream "persecution", and "why do we have to bring this up?"

3 posted on 08/11/2005 3:27:53 AM PDT by JRios1968 (If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else will do it for you.)
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To: YaYa123

How did Moore miss this? Bush's fault that Janet Sterno didn't act?


4 posted on 08/11/2005 3:30:36 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: YaYa123

Think maybe Bergers pants were full of this stuff or just the usual crap?


5 posted on 08/11/2005 3:31:40 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: YaYa123

I fully expect the MSM to yawn, say "nothing to see here, move along", and report how/why everything is Bush's fault.


6 posted on 08/11/2005 3:31:48 AM PDT by kb2614 ("Speaking Truth to Power" - What idiots say when they want to sound profound!!)
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To: JRios1968

The libs will look like fools if they complain, a position they're very comfortable being in. Anything from 9-11 onward is NOW, and anything that contributed to 9-11 is also NOW, so they can whine all they want, people want to know the truth.


7 posted on 08/11/2005 3:33:10 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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To: YaYa123
Bubba's going to be on Wolf Blitzer's show at 3 pm EDST.

Able Danger damage control?

Bet Wolfie kisses Bubba's behind.

8 posted on 08/11/2005 3:33:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: YaYa123

The truth about what went on before 9/11 is bound to have the average voter connecting the dots from Gorelick and Sandy Burglar to Clinton. (Bad news for Hill, who plans to run on Bill's record.)


9 posted on 08/11/2005 3:34:06 AM PDT by hershey
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To: ncountylee
How did Moore miss this?

C'mon, we can't truly expect Jabba the Moore to bother himself with FACTS, now can we?

11 posted on 08/11/2005 3:35:01 AM PDT by JRios1968 (If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else will do it for you.)
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To: hershey
(Bad news for Hill, who plans to run on Bill's record.)

Which is undoubtedly why CNN will be giving Bubba airtime today.

12 posted on 08/11/2005 3:36:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
Bubba's going to be on Wolf Blitzer's show at 3 pm EDST.

And I bet that Bubba gets very few, if any, questions about this teensy-weensy matter.

13 posted on 08/11/2005 3:36:45 AM PDT by JRios1968 (If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else will do it for you.)
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To: mewzilla
Which is undoubtedly why CNN will be giving Bubba airtime today.

Damage control time!

Legacy Rehab Ping...

14 posted on 08/11/2005 3:37:49 AM PDT by JRios1968 (If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else will do it for you.)
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To: JRios1968

Wolfie's a limber kinda guy. Ankle-grabbing is one of his specialties.


15 posted on 08/11/2005 3:37:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: hershey

The fact that they caught the guy at LAX by blind luck should make even the most Liberal West coast whacko wonder if he hasn't been played for a fool by the dems.


16 posted on 08/11/2005 3:38:55 AM PDT by hershey
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To: holdonnow

Do you think the 9-ll Commission, or the MSM, will ever castigate Reno's Justice Dept, Jamie Gorelick specifically, for creating "the wall"? (Castigate? Hellsbells, I'd appreciate a wrist slap at this point.)

Will we ever know why "the wall" was created?


Am I stupid for thinking Sandy Berger's heist at the National Archives is connected to all this?


17 posted on 08/11/2005 3:40:43 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Mark Levin Fan.com)
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To: mewzilla

Wolf was all giggly last night as he announced the big news.


18 posted on 08/11/2005 3:41:38 AM PDT by hershey
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To: mewzilla

I think it is safe to say that Wolfie will have a stained lapel on his suitcoat when this interview is done!!!!!


19 posted on 08/11/2005 3:43:01 AM PDT by Nekman
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To: YaYa123

I have a question...say Burglar is involved in this....hasn't he already pled guilty and accepted a deal but not sentenced yet....is it too late to bring additional charges?


20 posted on 08/11/2005 3:44:53 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: mewzilla

Blitzer is having Clinton on today so Clinton can get attention for his AIDS work in Africa. Blitzer will ask huggy bear questions about Hillary's 2008 presidential run, Clinton will ooze charm. Oh Blitzer might ask Clinton about the Roberts' nomination, they will navel gaze about Clinton's picks, but I don't think Blitzer will ask one tough question of Clinton. Not one.


21 posted on 08/11/2005 3:48:15 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Another CNN Clinton Love Fest)
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To: YaYa123

I think that we here at FR had her exposed very well for th eClinton operative that she is. She is where this will end up as far as the commission is concerned. The head of the 9/11 commission stood by her and he should be casterized for stupidy and prosecuted!!

All roads lead back to Clinton's failure to do his duty. GWB is failing to protect the borders and we will pay the price for that. GWB will have to rethink his policy on the borders.


22 posted on 08/11/2005 3:50:02 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: YaYa123

I guess Ashcroft doesn't think blowhard Tom Kean's remark that people should just "BUTT OUT" should be obeyed.

GOOD FOR ASHCROFT!!

Had blowhard Tom Kean paid attention to the obvious - that Gorelick should have been on the other side of the dias, this might have come out earlier!!!


23 posted on 08/11/2005 3:51:54 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: YaYa123
No you are not stupid. The Clinton's hate of the military is what is all behind their failure to act.

This country is gone if somehow the Hildabeast is elected in 08.

I hope that Ashcroft and any others that know what did or did not happen in regards to terrorism during the Clinton administration will continue to speak out lour and clear.
24 posted on 08/11/2005 3:52:00 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: mystery-ak

answer to your # 20 question:

"Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:03 p.m. EDT
Sandy Berger's Sentencing Postponed

Sentencing for former Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, who pleaded guilty in April to stealing and destroying top secret terrorism documents from the National Archives, has been delayed, NewsMax.com has learned.

Asked why Berger wasn't sentenced as scheduled on Friday, July 8, a Justice Department spokesman told NewsMax on Tuesday that Berger's sentencing has been postponed till September..."



http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/13/190705.shtml


25 posted on 08/11/2005 3:52:05 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123
"Am I stupid for thinking Sandy Berger's heist at the National Archives is connected to all this?"


No. Any who think otherwise are either brain dead or programmed. ;)



26 posted on 08/11/2005 3:58:01 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: mystery-ak
I have a question...say Burglar is involved in this....hasn't he already pled guilty and accepted a deal but not sentenced yet....is it too late to bring additional charges?

I think that may be a good explanation for why his sentencing was postponed...

27 posted on 08/11/2005 4:00:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: YaYa123
I think Wolfie will also lob a nice softball to give Bubba a chance to spin Able Danger.

They can try, anyway :)

28 posted on 08/11/2005 4:01:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ZULU
this is another 2004 column which further exposes the intentional incompetence of the 9-11 Commission:

..."A 1995 memo authored by Commissioner Gorelick forbade CIA and FBI agents from freely exchanging information. She instituted rules (later made department policy) that separated criminal investigations from intelligence gathering -- even though, as she admitted in the memo, such rules went “beyond what is legally required.”

The new rules prohibited any “’proactive’ investigative efforts or technical coverages” of terrorist suspects on U.S. soil. In other words, under the Gorelick memo our law enforcement and intelligence agencies were prohibited from any undercover work related to terrorist suspects.

We cannot know the effect of Gorelick’s rules. It’s quite possible that they hampered the ability of U.S. intelligence agencies to communicate the identity of two of the 9/11 hijackers to law-enforcement agencies, even after they had entered the United States. And that, in turn, may have been a partial cause of the 9/11 attacks.

The only way for us to know, at this point, is to find out what the Justice Department meant by these rules -- and that means the Commission must ask Ms. Gorelick about her memorandum."

29 posted on 08/11/2005 4:02:22 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GuestColumns/Rosenzweig20040416.shtml


30 posted on 08/11/2005 4:02:43 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: mewzilla

I wonder if we can find out when Bubba's appearance was scheduled. If it's a last moment deal, then I think that would indicate that Bubba's pretty worried.


31 posted on 08/11/2005 4:03:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: YaYa123

And Gorelick wasn't the only person on that panel with some pretty odiferous ties.


32 posted on 08/11/2005 4:04:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: JRios1968
Legacy Rehab...

Up is the only direction left.
33 posted on 08/11/2005 4:04:49 AM PDT by carumba
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To: mewzilla

I think Burglar was after and got the docs at the archives on Able Danger...Im just afraid with his guilty plea he was offered immunity on any additional charges..


34 posted on 08/11/2005 4:06:29 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: wildcatf4f3

WHat happened with Berger's theft of documents anyway? Is he to be prosecuted?


35 posted on 08/11/2005 4:07:25 AM PDT by Brofholdonow
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To: YaYa123

Tom Kean was another poor choice by Bush. Bush apparently was oblivious to Kean's back-stabbing record when it came to non-RINOs. I believe Kean did all he could to torpedo Bush's chances of getting relected. That was Kean's agenda.


36 posted on 08/11/2005 4:07:56 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: mystery-ak
I'm sure any deal would've been contingent upon ol' Sandy telling the truth and nothing but the truth.

Guess what Sandy didn't do?

37 posted on 08/11/2005 4:08:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: YaYa123

I wonder how this story will play out in the MSM? In fact, will it at all?


38 posted on 08/11/2005 4:08:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: mewzilla

True....that could be a deal breaker...LOL


39 posted on 08/11/2005 4:09:04 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: mewzilla

Oh stop!
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If Blitzer even mentions "Able Danger" to Bill Clinton, it won't be a surprise to Clinton, and he will have a BS non-response response at the ready. But believe me, this interview is nothing more than a double dipping PR stunt. Blitzer needs viewers, and Clinton needs attention. Clinton wants legacy enhancing attention on his Africa Aids program, and to get it he will endure a few puffball questions about Hillary's presidential run. Blitzer's not about to ask tough, or unexpected questions, of Bill Clinton.


40 posted on 08/11/2005 4:12:22 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123
Do you think the 9-ll Commission, or the MSM, will ever castigate Reno's Justice Dept, Jamie Gorelick specifically, for creating "the wall"? (Castigate? Hellsbells, I'd appreciate a wrist slap at this point.) Will we ever know why "the wall" was created? Am I stupid for thinking Sandy Berger's heist at the National Archives is connected to all this?

Don't expect the spineless, gutless, ball-less Republican "leadership" to investigate any of this.

41 posted on 08/11/2005 4:14:25 AM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: YaYa123
If Blitzer even mentions "Able Danger" to Bill Clinton, it won't be a surprise to Clinton, and he will have a BS non-response response at the ready. But believe me, this interview is nothing more than a double dipping PR stunt.

Oh, I agree completely. That's why I mentioned it. So we can all be watching Wolfie while he does it.

42 posted on 08/11/2005 4:14:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Brofholdonow

Just think folks when the Hildabeast gets elected President Gorelick is going to be the Attorney General !


43 posted on 08/11/2005 4:15:08 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: YaYa123
"Am I stupid to think Sandy Berger's heist at the National Archives is connected to all this?"

BINGO! The question is -Will there be a full blowm investigation? Americans have a right to know what happened. We need to know the truth.

44 posted on 08/11/2005 4:21:40 AM PDT by Pajamajan ("We're going to take things away from you for the common good" -Hilary Clinton in '08)
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To: YaYa123
"Am I stupid to think Sandy Berger's heist at the National Archives is connected to all this?"

BINGO! The question is -Will there be a full blowm investigation? Americans have a right to know what happened. We need to know the truth.

45 posted on 08/11/2005 4:22:17 AM PDT by Pajamajan ("We're going to take things away from you for the common good" -Hilary Clinton in '08)
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To: mewzilla

They call it the Clinton News Network for good reason.


46 posted on 08/11/2005 4:24:01 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Alas Babylon!

((Here's another column from 2004, Byron York's brilliance, but it sure got ignored by the msm. ))


http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200404231117.asp

When Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D., S.D.) and then-House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D., Mo.) selected Gorelick for the committee in December 2002, Gephardt said, of her and the other Democrats chosen for the job, "I can think of no individuals better suited to work on this project than the people we have announced today."...

Republicans criticizing Gorelick's selection for the commission have focused on what is now called the Wall — that is, the traditional barrier separating law enforcement and intelligence agencies.

It was the Wall that made it so difficult — nearly impossible, actually — for the agencies to share information about the Sept. 11 hijackers, which might have allowed the government to break up the plot."


47 posted on 08/11/2005 4:26:06 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@SOOOOOOOOOOO It Was Daschle & Gebhardt Who Put Gorelick On The 9-11 commission.com)
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To: YaYa123
Will we ever know why "the wall" was created?

I am just guessing but I suspect one reason may have been to obstruct FBI,CIA evidence about Clintons campaign contribution for missile technology deals with the Chi-coms.

48 posted on 08/11/2005 4:27:38 AM PDT by carlr
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To: YaYa123

The MSM blackout on the story of the year continues....


49 posted on 08/11/2005 4:28:25 AM PDT by montag813
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To: YaYa123

Thanks Ya.


50 posted on 08/11/2005 4:34:35 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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