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Jagger denies song is jibe at Bush
The Telegraph ^ | 11AUG05 | The Telegraph

Posted on 08/11/2005 10:28:25 AM PDT by familyop

Mick Jagger has insisted that a song on the new Rolling Stones album called Sweet Neo Con is not about US President George Bush.

The rocker admitted the song is critical of some of the Bush administration's policies, but pointed out that it does not mention the President directly.

But the military contractor Halliburton, which used to be run by Vice President Dick Cheney and has been awarded key Iraq contracts, does come in for criticism.

"It's not really aimed at anyone," Jagger told US television show Extra.

"It's not aimed, personally aimed, at President Bush. It wouldn't be called Sweet Neo Con if it was."

The song contains the lyrics: "You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite. You call yourself a patriot, well I think you're full of s***."

It also includes the line: "How come you're so wrong? My sweet neo-con, where's the money gone, in the Pentagon."

The song is on new album, A Bigger Bang, to be released on September 6.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushhaters; denial; eurabia; europeanunion; jagger; mick; music; sir
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Let's see some context here. Folks, he's referred to as Sir Mick Jagger in Britain, and because of the lyrics, it will be a huge hit in Britain.
1 posted on 08/11/2005 10:28:26 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop
"It's not really aimed at anyone," Jagger told US television show Extra.

I read this line last night, and wasn't surprised to see him distance himself from the very valid understanding that his lyrics are a direct jab at the President and his administration. He was always innocuous, IMHO, but now he's just another Tim Robbins.
2 posted on 08/11/2005 10:32:49 AM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: familyop

It's curious to me that he finds it necessary to distance himself from the obvious interpretation of his own lyrics. Maybe he had a change of opinion after the London bombings.

If so, then I call him a "hypocrite."


3 posted on 08/11/2005 10:33:10 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: familyop
All I've heard from the Libs lately are empty slogans. You know you're in trouble when John Stewart is your most coherent spokesman.
4 posted on 08/11/2005 10:33:45 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: Brilliant
obvious interpretation of his own lyrics

Funny, I thought Jesse Jackson wrote the lyrics.

5 posted on 08/11/2005 10:34:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: andyk

Oh...another note here. We are not allowed to post from the publications in the UK that are referring to him as "Sir," as far as I could find.


6 posted on 08/11/2005 10:34:41 AM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop

i personaly respect people alot more if they stick to their guns instead of talking out of both sides of their mouth or in sir mick's case both sides of his lips


7 posted on 08/11/2005 10:34:52 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: familyop
it will be a huge hit in Britain.

A country the size of New Jersey. That can't be his main focus.

8 posted on 08/11/2005 10:34:53 AM PDT by Huck (Whatever.)
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To: familyop
Mick and the Stones are a sad lot.

They're way overdue for their dirt nap.

Ditto for Bob Dylan too.

9 posted on 08/11/2005 10:35:24 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: familyop

Doesn't matter. The stones haven't written a song people listen to in over 30 years.


10 posted on 08/11/2005 10:36:56 AM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: familyop
Let's see some context here. Folks, he's referred to as Sir Mick Jagger in Britain, and because of the lyrics, it will be a huge hit in Britain.

But he lives here for the tax breaks and makes more money here than he will in the UK. Mick screwed the pooch. He knows its the 45-55 year old crowd that can afford to pay the $75 - $150 a ticket.....and there are few liberals in that crowd!

11 posted on 08/11/2005 10:36:56 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: familyop
Yes, I posted this on the Schwarzanegger thread (he's got some Rolling Stones $100K party going on... ), but it is thread relevant, not spam.

Remember this?

Jagger, who lived on the upper West Side for many years, said: "I feel very much at home in America. I've spent half my adult life here. I have many personal feelings. But I'm from the school that considers it impolite to comment on other people's elections."

True Brit Jagger won't rock the vote (Mick content to shut up and sing)


I guess he forgot what they taught him in that School of FlipFlop:

Jagger on the Cannes carpet for Fahrenheit:

Then it was Moore climbing the entry steps to the Cannes Festival accompanied by Mick Jagger.

All sensational events at the 57th Cannes Film Festival were connected with the documentary film director Michael Moore and his film Fahrenheit 9/11...Mick Jagger applauded so hard that he became hot and took off his sweater..

But no one generated more excitement than Moore, who premiered his film to a thunderous response - with Jagger jumping up two rows behind him to join a standing ovation that lasted some 20 minutes.

JAGGER ROCKS BUSH: 'HOW COME YOU'RE SO WRONG, MY SWEET NEO-CON'

JAGGER ROCKS BUSH, RICE: 'HOW COME YOU'RE SO WRONG

Jagger Says Song Not an Anti-Bush Tirade (MICK STARTS DANCIN' BACKWARDS)

12 posted on 08/11/2005 10:37:16 AM PDT by cgk (I'm back, but... slowly. Malkin/North/Pro-life ping lists will be back ASAP. GOD BLESS!)
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To: familyop

This is released after Brit civilians on their way to work get blown up by Al Qaeda. Great timing.


13 posted on 08/11/2005 10:37:40 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: JohnLongIsland

Well one thing Mick has always been a shrewd business man. He got people talking about the new album and their tour. It may very well have been a calculated move on his part, and may not really indicate how he feels. To him, it's just business. But if that is the case, he may find it backfires on him big-time. I can easily see half-full stadiums for their tour.


14 posted on 08/11/2005 10:38:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

so how many freepers are going to the Stones concert?


15 posted on 08/11/2005 10:43:01 AM PDT by merry10
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To: familyop
Nice timing Mick. NOT you complete dumbass. Your mother country just suffered bomb attacks on 7/7 and 7/21 killing over 50, and blessedly more aren't dead only because in the second try all the bombs were duds. They died at the hands of Islamo-fascists hell bent on destroying western civilization and fledgling democracies in Iraq and Afghanistan. Let me also remind you that both countries have for the first time had free and fair elections with many millions voting including women. What a complete old gasbag you are.
16 posted on 08/11/2005 10:44:10 AM PDT by conservativecorner (It's a cult of death and submission to fanatics Larry!!)
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To: familyop

The context for me is I can give a rat's arse concerning this old gasbag.


17 posted on 08/11/2005 10:45:44 AM PDT by conservativecorner (It's a cult of death and submission to fanatics Larry!!)
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To: merry10

"so how many freepers are going to the Stones concert?"

I'd sooner go to the junkyard and listen to cars being crushed.


18 posted on 08/11/2005 10:47:52 AM PDT by Big Digger (I)
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To: merry10

Not me. I did see them for the Steel Wheels tour, and it was one of the best shows I'd ever seen. But Mick might be very surprised to realize that half of his potential audience is Republican and supports the President.


19 posted on 08/11/2005 10:48:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: familyop

Too bad. I am the biggest Stones fan around, and have been waiting for a GOOD new album for years. Won't be forking out any cash for this.


20 posted on 08/11/2005 10:49:31 AM PDT by spyone
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To: Big Digger

....Mick...is just another "has been" .....leftist liberal.


21 posted on 08/11/2005 10:49:48 AM PDT by auto power
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To: familyop

Sounds like maybe Mick's handlers (you know, the ones who do his thinking) gave him a gentle reminder that in order for a concert tour to be successful rear ends have to be in the seats.

These "entertainers" need to go back and brush up on their history. It wasn't long ago that being an entertainer was on the same level as working in the oldest profession. My apologies to any practicioners of the oldest profession who might be reading this.


22 posted on 08/11/2005 10:51:11 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: familyop
The song contains the lyrics: "You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite.

What in the world would HE know about being a Christian???

Apparently, he thinks we're all just a bunch of morons.
23 posted on 08/11/2005 10:51:26 AM PDT by conservatrice
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To: familyop

Ah yes, the usual "It's not about the President, you're taking it out of context" denial of responsibility we've seen so many times before.


24 posted on 08/11/2005 10:57:47 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: familyop

Why are senior rockers so damned wrinkly? Are they on some kind of slow dehydration plan? Its like they're TRYING to be wrinkly....or just walking ass*****.


25 posted on 08/11/2005 10:58:30 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: All

I heard that the NFL had a gig coming up with him. I wonder if they are going to go through with it.


26 posted on 08/11/2005 10:58:50 AM PDT by texan75010
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To: oldleft

"John Stewart is your most coherent spokesman"

That's not far from the truth. I occasionally lurk at the DU for laughs, and I regularly see statements like, "Thank God John Stewart's on our side!". He's funny, charismatic, sharp - and wrong, petty, and a master of distortion. He once showed Bush at a speach and made it seem like Bush forgot the city he was in. There was a lot of silence, Bush moved a little slower if you knew what to look for, and it actually seemed like he forgot where he was. Later, on Fox, I saw the same footage, and it actually turned out that he was being drowned out for applause, and only very briefly, before he got in "Glad to be here in St. Louis!". Not sure where it was, I just put in St. Louis) So anyway, there was Stewart, laughing it up, and he never revealed what they'd done to the video - anyone who saw it and didn't know better walked away thinking Bush had an IQ of 5.
huff...


27 posted on 08/11/2005 10:59:13 AM PDT by mudblood
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Sounds like maybe Mick's handlers ...gave him a gentle reminder that in order for a concert tour to be successful rear ends have to be in the seats.

You mean Keith?

28 posted on 08/11/2005 10:59:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Brilliant

Stones are tap-dancing on this one. What a jerk MJ is.


29 posted on 08/11/2005 11:03:01 AM PDT by bboop
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To: familyop

I love the Stones. I also love Springsteen and U2. I just wish they would all shut their airheaded pieholes and play their music.


30 posted on 08/11/2005 11:03:24 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: dfwgator

Keith Richards has so many chemicals in him he'll go down in history as the only live embalmed musician.


31 posted on 08/11/2005 11:03:27 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: mudblood
John Stewart at least knows his place. On "Crossfire" Tucker Carlson brought up the same kind of thing, and Stewart's response was, "Our show leads puppets making crank calls!" I thought it was pretty funny. When he had Dean on he asked him what the Dems would do different if they were in office, and Dean came up with some slogans. Stewart pushed him on it, and I was impressed. I may disagree with him, but I do respect him on many levels.
32 posted on 08/11/2005 11:06:55 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: billnaz

You know what they say, only two things would survive a nuclear bomb, cockroaches and Keith Richards.


33 posted on 08/11/2005 11:09:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: familyop

Who cares? I haven't listened to any Stones music for 30 years.


34 posted on 08/11/2005 11:16:41 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Bommer
"Mick screwed the pooch."

LOL!

Yes, he's had his 'Dixie Chick' moment. Deal with it Mick. He's burnt toast.
35 posted on 08/11/2005 11:18:11 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence.)
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To: familyop

"The rocker admitted the song is critical of some of the Bush administration's policies, but pointed out that it does not mention the President directly."

Actually, Mick admitted that the song was "CERTAINLY VERY critical".

quote:
"It is certainly very critical of certain policies of the administration, but so what?"


36 posted on 08/11/2005 11:18:28 AM PDT by james500
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To: JohnLongIsland
"i personaly respect people alot more if they stick to their guns instead of talking out of both sides of their mouth or in sir mick's case both sides of his lips"

Since the song is called "sweet neocon" My first thought would be that it is about neocons, not Bush. Bush is a "compassionate conservative", which is weird too, but certainly is a different breed than a neocon which stands for new conservative/ex-democrat. Neocons are, at heart, authoritarians who enjoy meddling in foreign affairs. Since neocons aren't my favorite type of politician either, the song doesn't bother me.
37 posted on 08/11/2005 11:27:31 AM PDT by monday
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To: oldleft

Stewart has his moments. Even Darth Vader had his moments. And he had good taste in women. So, I guess what I'm saying is John Stewart might have a chance in the next Lucas film.

Kidding aside, he's funny, charismatic, and he's not fooling me with the "we're a stupid show" routine.


38 posted on 08/11/2005 11:30:25 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: familyop

bttt


39 posted on 08/11/2005 11:36:31 AM PDT by timestax
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To: familyop; hellinahandcart
Well, well, well.

Somebody else whose records I no longer need.

I guess we have to refer to him now as "Sir @$$hole."

40 posted on 08/11/2005 11:39:10 AM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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To: mudblood

So Stewart pulled a Michael Moore. Surprise, surprise...


41 posted on 08/11/2005 11:41:38 AM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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Mick, Mick, Mick. You've surprised me. What happened to the guy who took the stage at that concert after 9/11 and said "You don't #@%! with New York!"? I still have a bunch of THAT guy's CDs.

They may soon be off to join Bonnie Raitt's in the landfill, though...


42 posted on 08/11/2005 11:47:56 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: familyop

Damage control. If the Right gets ahold of this, Jagger won't sell another album to a conservative unless it's at gunpoint. And those aging post-Boomers constitute a large portion of his target demographic, since most kids these days wouldn't buy a Stones album unless Fitty Cent was backing up vocals.


43 posted on 08/11/2005 11:52:07 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: familyop

What a mealy mouthed wimp. Making the song is one thing, but then trying to deny it's obvious meaning is cowardly. Anyways, why do they even bother with the expense of recording new albums? It's not like anyone is going to the concerts to hear their new stuff.


44 posted on 08/11/2005 11:55:19 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: familyop

Not only is he ignorant, now he's proven himself to be a coward without the slightest convictions.

He should stick to what he does best.


45 posted on 08/11/2005 11:56:04 AM PDT by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: familyop
Not aimed at anyone?

"The song contains the lyrics: "You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite. You call yourself a patriot, well I think you're full of s***."

His lyrics are not only aimed at our President and his administration. They are also aimed at Christians and Patriots as well!! In other words, the only ones his lyrics are not aimed at are the libs!

46 posted on 08/11/2005 11:59:51 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Seems Like Our Press Has Turned Against Our Country")
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To: familyop

I had been under the impression that Jagger was a shrewd businessman, with a well-honed aversion to politics, having seen it all come and go during his long career. Now I realize he doesn't have the political smarts to pour piss out of a boot, and KEITH is the statesman!




47 posted on 08/11/2005 12:08:58 PM PDT by omniscient
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To: All

http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/eo/20050809/112362852000.html


48 posted on 08/11/2005 12:09:03 PM PDT by texan75010
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To: familyop

He's referred to as Sir Mick Jagger in Britain....

And referred to as sweet pants by David Bowie.


49 posted on 08/11/2005 12:17:54 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: familyop

Mick's attempt to distance himself from his song shows he is just a Pu**y.


50 posted on 08/11/2005 12:25:31 PM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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