Skip to comments.Quick - google Dietrich Snell. Explains a lot about AttaGate.
Posted on 08/11/2005 1:40:02 PM PDT by epluribus_2
don't have time to elaborate - see for yourself. This guy was the one Able Danger team briefed who decided it was not worthy of inclusion into the 9/11 report or even to the ears of comittee members since it did not fit their conclusions about Atta. THIS NEEDS TO P*O*P!
Your link is no good.
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Holy crap. Look at this:
Abdul Hakim Murad, a conspirator in the 1995 Bojinka plot with Ramzi Yousef, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, and others, was convicted in 1996 of his role in the Bojinka plot (see January 6, 1995). He is about to be sentenced for that crime. He offers to cooperate with federal prosecutors in return for a reduction in his sentence, but prosecutors turn down his offer. Dietrich Snell, the prosecutor who convicted Murad, says after 9/11 that he doesn't remember any such offer. But court papers and others familiar with the case later confirmed that Murad does offer to cooperate at this time. Snell claimed he only remembers hearing that Murad had described an intention to hijack a plane and fly it into CIA headquarters. However, in 1995 Murad had confessed to Philippine investigators that this would have been only one part of a larger plot to crash a number of airplanes into prominent US buildings, including the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, a plot that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed later adjusts and turns into the 9/11 plot (see January 20, 1995) (see February 1995). While Philippine investigators claim this information was passed on to US intelligence, it's not clear just which US officials may have learned this information and what they did with it, if anything. [New York Daily News, 9/25/01] Murad is sentenced in May 1998 and given life in prison plus 60 years. [Albany Times-Union, 9/22/02] After 9/11, Snell goes on to become Senior Counsel and a team leader for the 9/11 Commission. Author Peter Lance later calls Snell one of the fixers, hired early on to sanitize the Commission's final report. Lance says Snell ignored evidence presented to the Commission that shows direct ties between the Bojinka plot and 9/11, and in so doing covers up Snell's own role in the failure to make more use of evidence learned from Murad and other Bojinka plotters. [FrontPage Magazine, 1/27/05]
People and organizations involved: Dietrich Snell, Abdul Hakim Murad, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, 9/11 Congressional Inquiry, Pentagon, Ramzi Yousef, World Trade Center
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GREG B. SMITH
Terrorist told of plan to crash into CIA's HQ
Two years ago, federal prosecutors turned down a cooperation offer from a terrorist who claimed he was part of a well-financed 1995 plot to crash an airplane into the CIA headquarters.
Abdul Hakim Murad said he got his pilot's license after training at several American flight schools, including one that is now under scrutiny in the terror investigation. Murad was convicted in 1996 for his role in a highly choreographed scheme to blow up 12 U.S.-bound jetliners flying out of Southeast Asia.
The Pakistani-born man said that in addition to the jetliner bomb plot, he and his co-conspirators were looking into using his flying skills to crash an aircraft into the CIA headquarters in Langley, Va.
"It was not something that we focused on. It was something that he said," recalled Dietrich Snell, the ex-prosecutor who convicted Murad. "We took seriously what he was telling us, but what we were focused on was the plot to blow up the 12 airliners."
U.S. Attorney Said No Deal
Snell, who left office in 1998, did not recall Murad coming forward to offer information in return for leniency in sentencing. But court papers and two sources familiar with the situation confirm that Murad did try to cooperate with Manhattan U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White's office. He was turned down, the sources said.
It's not clear whether Murad's claims of a plan to fly a jet into the CIA buildings have any ties to the Sept. 11 attack on America. Murad gave investigators information that both resembles and bears no resemblance to the Sept. 11 attack.
His plan to blow up jetliners collapsed when bomb-making chemicals that he and his co-conspirator, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, were mixing caught on fire inside a Manila apartment.
Murad was captured in January 1994 in Manila, where he told Philippine interrogators about a plot he called "bojinka," or "big sound." In that scheme, he, Yousef and at least 10 others planned to get off the planes at stops along the planes' routes. The bombs would be detonated by timers in sequence over the Pacific, and none of the terrorists would be killed.
Got Pilot Training Upstate
"The whole crux of bojinka was to have timed explosions and the operatives to be off the flights and escaping," Snell said. "That's a fundamental difference between what happened two weeks ago at the World Trade Center and bojinka."
But there are similarities. Snell recalled that Murad told investigators about the suicide mission to crash a plane into the CIA building. "I remember him saying he thought about maybe getting a small plane or somehow get access to a small plane and crash it into the CIA," Snell said, adding, "There was never any mention of hijacking." And Murad noted that he got his commercial pilot's license after training at several U.S. flight schools, including ones in upstate Schenectady and North Carolina.
Last week, FBI agents showed up at the same Schenectady flight school, asking questions about a student who trained there. And several of the suspected hijackers are believed to have studied at flight schools around the U.S.
Snell said he has no way to know whether Murad could have provided investigators with information that would be relevant to the probe of the Sept. 11 attack. "I think it's pretty unlikely, but I don't know," he said. "I'd be guessing like everyone else."
© 2001 Daily News, L.P.
actually, I meant for someone to enter it in and open up the issue. I saw elsewhere that this guy's name is associated with the meeting that the commission spokesman first denied then admitted to having. This guy was the staffer. He also - get this - shot down investigating Project Bojinka info. How in H*&^ did he get on the comittee at all? Anyway - no time left for me so I thought I would get the ball rolling.
Author Peter Lance later calls Snell one of the fixers, hired early on to sanitize the Commission's final report. Lance says Snell ignored evidence presented to the Commission that shows direct ties between the Bojinka plot and 9/11, and in so doing covers up Snell's own role in the failure to make more use of evidence learned from Murad and other Bojinka plotters. [FrontPage Magazine, 1/27/05]
Nice. I like how they made sure that the "fixers" had self-interest--the most reliable motive--driving their behavior.
Sorry about the formatting.
Look at the headline and then #9.
Dietrich Snell is another scum.
You have emailed this to Drudge, Rush, and Hannity I hope...a real eye-opener! Just because we look odd in these tinfoil hats, doesn't mean there's not a real conspiracy.
One of the people who allegedly had foreknowledge somehow made it on the the commission investigating 9/11.
Can you be a bit more specific?
If we had new media this would be devasting. But the clowns who pass themselves off as reporters could never allow the 24/7 Natalie orgy to be interrupted by anything so trivial.
Geez Peach....Do we finally have Clinton by the b****?
Holy Mother of All Cover-ups, Batman!!
Dietrich Snell should have been a WITNESS testifying before the 9/11 Commission under oath, not a "Senior Counsel and Team Leader" in a key position to sanitize the Commission's records and avert attention from his own knowledge and lack of action!!! This is HUGE.....
Michael Savage was talking about it yesterday, though.
Nah. He's teflon. And people don't care, imo.
The question was, why didn't the Justice Dept. and the FBI make his name public immediately in 1995 when they received evidence from Col. Mendoza that KSM had conspired with his nephew Ramzi to hijack airliners and fly them into buildings? Why seal the indictment and why not make KSM the subject of the same kind of public international dragnet that captured Yousef?
"The Feds made a big deal out of grabbing the overweight, bug eyed KSM in March of 2003 in Pakistan, but by my reckoning they had blown at least two chances to grab him earlier before all those people died on 9/11 -- once in 1995 the day Yousef was caught and later in 1996 when the Feds learned KSM was in Doha, Qatar, and cooled their heels waiting while a Qatari official spirited him out of the country to the Czech Republic."
I haven't e-mailed it to anyone; we're getting a thunderstorm here and I have got to turn off this computer. bbl
Bump to read later.
This is Buckhead stuff.
This is an interesting article about Snell too.
Yep. These are the best kinds of threads. FReepers do the work that the MSM can't or won't.
I just emailed a link to this thread to Rush's 24/7 Subscriber email addy.
Is this one of the two people who could say what the commission saw?
Who was posting on the Jamie Gorelick thread today that she was one of the two who decided what data the commission saw?
Old Friend heard a family member who was well aware of how the Commission operate call into a radio station today.
That person said that Gorelick and one other person who Old Friend didn't recognize were in charge of looking at all information that came in.
Did you see the part where Snell was offered to plea deal with the jihadist who said a 9/11 style day was planned and Snell didn't take the deal?
Check out this thread! And Google Dietrich Snell, this is incredible..... It's not Dan Blather and it's not Joe Wilson -- this time it's a lib MOLE in a critical position on the 9/11 Commission staff. I'm just starting to read up on this but it seems huge and outrageous: Dietrich Snell, who was up to his ears in key terror prosecution work in the mid-90s, may have played a key role in seeing that the 9/11 Commission did not look hard at who knew what when during the 1990s. It's looking like our federal gov't had lots of relevant names and info to break up Al Qaeda cells and prevent 9/11, if only people like Jamie Gorelick and Dietrich Snell had put the info into the right hands instead of walling it off in obscurity!
We need to keep all these articles about Snell. Thanks for that!
Do you mean this???
I heard a caller to WABC radio this morning. The John Gambling Show.
She was from a family group and sounded as tho she was quite familiar with the Commission and the process.
She stated that the information came into the committee thru Gorelick and one other and it was they who decided what information was forwarded to other members.
98 posted on 08/11/2005 1:27:55 PM EDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
Storm seems to have passed so I'm still here :-)
Looks as though Gorelick and Snell are in some DEEP doo doo
Somebody ought to send this info to the Jersey Girls. They used to have a web sight. They were media darlings during the election. With info like this they might feel a bit used. Nothing is worse than the wrath of scorned woman. As much as I hate to see Kristin Breitweiser on tv she might just be the one to give this things legs.
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I read a book about Ramzi Yousef.
The FBI said, of the 75,000 bombings/explosions they investigated, Yousef was the most experienced.
He's said to have been able to take down an airliner using an explosive mix hidden in a contact lens case and a watch.
So writer/reporter Peter Lance was interviewed by Snell:
This was long before Jayna Davis' intriguing book The Third Terrorist which was the object of one of your earlier interviews. She agrees with me on the Yousef-Nichols connection, but we disagree as to Yousef's paymaster. She suggests it was Iraq. I say OBL and furnish proof in the form of evidence showing that Yousef's Manila cell was financed directly by bin Laden via his Saudi brother in law Mohammed Jamal Khalifa.
However, in 2003, in neither case -- OKC or TWA #800 did I have the level of evidence I uncovered in the Spring of 2004. Much of it is in the pages of Cover Up or on my website under FBI #302's.
FP: Can you give us some of the specifics?
Lance: In the weeks prior to the downing of TWA 800 the FBI was alerted by Colombo crime family member Gregory Scarpa Jr. that Ramzi Yousef -- who was in a cell next to Scarpa Jr. at New Yorks Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) -- was arranging to have his al Qaeda cohorts plant a bomb aboard a U.S. airliner. The reason? To provoke a mistrial in the Bojinka case, the first of two federal trials facing Yousef.
Yousef even shared with Scarpa the intricate details of his schematic of the same Casio-nitro bomb trigger device, he had placed aboard PAL #434 in December 1994.
Keep in mind that had the Bojinka plot been fufilled, up to a dozen U.S. jumbo jets would have had their center wing fuel tanks blown apart by Casio watch-nitroglycerine bomb triggers placed in the life jacket pouches of seats located over the tanks.
Yousef's only mistake with PAL #434 was in bomb placement, not bomb design.
Now, in the spring of 1996, weeks prior to Yousefs trial for the Bojinka plot, the bomb maker began sending elaborate notes and bomb schematics to inmate Scarpawho -- unknown to Yousef -- had begun working as an informant for the FBI, and passed them on to his Bureau contacts.
I believe it was mewzilla?
Weldon is on Hannity Radio right now
... foreshadowing ping ...
"I know NNN-NUTHINK!"
part of your question is answered in your #7,the mother of all inaction
Ramzi Yousef (1993 WTC) and Terry Nichols (OKC) crossed paths in the Phillipines. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (9/11)was Yousef's uncle. It is interesting to note that Yousef entered the United States on an Iraqi passport and had been known among the New York fundamentalists as "Rashid, the Iraqi". Another name that could be thrown into the mix is Abdul Rahman Yasin, a U.S. citizen who moved to Iraq in the 1960's and returned to the U.S. in 1992. After the 1993 WTC bombing, Yasin fled to Iraq and was given monthly salary and housing by Saddam Hussein's regime.
Gorelick and OKC:
Thank you for posting those links, ravingnutter. I'm going to steal them :-)
I'm also saving them to Word the way you taught me to do.
Many of my friends have read The Third Terrorist at my insistence . Although they originally thought I was off my rocker, every single one of them came away convinced after reading that book.