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Cindy Sheehan & Friends -- Paid George Soros Stooges?
Real Voices - MoveOn.org ^ | August 11, 2005 | George Soros

Posted on 08/11/2005 5:48:31 PM PDT by Sam Hill

Note that ALL THREE WOMEN involved in Cindy Sheehan's Gold Star Families group were in the MoveOn.org/George Soros ad campaign last fall:

In "A Mother's Tears", Cindy Sheehan of California talks about her son Casey and speaks out against the President and the lies that led to the war in Iraq. 
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In this powerful commentary, Jane Bright of California talks about her son Evan Ashcraft, killed near Mosul three weeks after Bush issued his foolish taunt to Iraqi insurgents to "bring 'em on". 
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The three women featured, Cindy Sheehan, Nadia McCaffrey and Jane Bright--are all members of Sheehan's "group" Gold Star Families.

The Real Voices ad campaign was done by Fenton Communications--which is a George Soros/MoveOn front.

This goes a long way towards explaining how these people can afford to do their propaganda 24 hours a day and seven days a week for the last couple of years.

1 posted on 08/11/2005 5:48:32 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: OldFriend

Ping.

If I can't sleep, neither can you. LOL

This will keep us awake all night. But I'm leaving to try and relax :-)


2 posted on 08/11/2005 5:50:31 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Sam Hill

I wonder how much they were paid by Soros?


3 posted on 08/11/2005 5:51:04 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Sam Hill

Good point about their being fronted by some deep lefty pockets.


4 posted on 08/11/2005 5:53:17 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Sam Hill

Someone should ask her; "Who is funding your grief?"


5 posted on 08/11/2005 5:53:51 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Sam Hill
SHE SHOULD WATCH SOME OF THIS FILM I did some marketing work for them last year.
6 posted on 08/11/2005 5:53:56 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Sam Hill
Article Launched: 06/24/2004 06:00:00 AM

Bush, Sheehans share moments
By David Henson/Staff Writer



Since learning in April that their son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, had been killed in Iraq, life has been everything but normal for the Sheehan family of Vacaville.
Casey's parents, Cindy and Patrick, as well as their three children, have attended event after event honoring the soldier both locally and abroad, received countless letters of support and fielded questions from reporters across the country.

"That's the way our whole lives have been since April 4," Patrick said. "It's been surreal."

But none of that prepared the family for the message left on their answering machine last week, inviting them to have a face-to-face meeting with President George W. Bush at Fort Lewis near Seattle.

Surreal soon seemed like an understatement, as the Sheehans - one of 17 families who met Thursday with Bush - were whisked in a matter of days to the Army post and given the VIP treatment from the military. But as their meeting with the president approached, the family was faced with a dilemma as to what to say when faced with Casey's commander-in-chief.

"We haven't been happy with the way the war has been handled," Cindy said. "The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."

The 10 minutes of face time with the president could have given the family a chance to vent their frustrations or ask Bush some of the difficult questions they have been asking themselves, such as whether Casey's sacrifice would make the world a safer place.

But in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act. In addition, Pat noted that Bush wasn't stumping for votes or trying to gain a political edge for the upcoming election.

"We have a lot of respect for the office of the president, and I have a new respect for him because he was sincere and he didn't have to take the time to meet with us," Pat said.

Sincerity was something Cindy had hoped to find in the meeting. Shortly after Casey died, Bush sent the family a form letter expressing his condolences, and Cindy said she felt it was an impersonal gesture.

"I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."

The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son's sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.

While meeting with Bush, as well as Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, was an honor, it was almost a tangent benefit of the trip. The Sheehans said they enjoyed meeting the other families of fallen soldiers, sharing stories, contact information, grief and support.

For some, grief was still visceral and raw, while for others it had melted into the background of their lives, the pain as common as breathing. Cindy said she saw her reflection in the troubled eyes of each.

"It's hard to lose a son," she said. "But we (all) lost a son in the Iraqi war."

The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.

For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.

For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.

"That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together," Cindy said.

David Henson can be reached at dixon@thereporter.com.
8 posted on 08/11/2005 5:54:10 PM PDT by conservativecorner (It's a cult of death and submission to fanatics Larry!!)
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To: Sam Hill

Be interesting to see how the money actually moves. Where did this information come from?


9 posted on 08/11/2005 5:54:26 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
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To: Sam Hill

Speaking of these folks, I saw Jersey Girl Kristen Breitweiser on Hardball without Chris Matthews. She wasn't as "odd" as usual, and was quite cogent, being very upset at the 'Able Danger' fiasco. She may be getting wise.


10 posted on 08/11/2005 5:55:29 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: Sam Hill

Precisely what I'd suspected. No wonder Sheehan's performances are ineffectual and leave me flat. Nothing in them but propaganda and hot air. Wonder if she gets paid by the tear?


11 posted on 08/11/2005 5:56:59 PM PDT by Rightfootforward
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To: Brett66
America's Red Army
By Jennifer Verner
FrontPageMagazine.com | September 1, 2004

Although the organization was initiated with a letter signed by over 100 celebrities calling for an end to America's “imperialist” wars, with the help of David Fenton, the founder of the public relations firm, Fenton Communications, and the rabidly anti-Bush Internet outfit, Moveon.org, the campaign was presented as a non-partisan patchwork of American life. But while Fenton may want Americans to see Win Without War as being “middle of the road,” the sum of its parts paints a vastly different picture.

Fenton Communications is a “socially responsible” PR firm with a penchant for backing Marxist regimes, and Win Without War boasts a number of “progressive” operatives, like the coalition's director, Tom Andrews, and Clinton employee, Maggie Williams, who use non-profits to front for the Democratic Party line.

In addition, elements of the fringe Left like Veterans for Peace, which held a solidarity convention in Havana with Cuban veterans of Angola in 1992, are also members of the Win Without War team. And, to top it off, funds are channeled through billionaire George Soros' Open Society Institute and the ultra-leftist Tides Foundation into many of the coalition members' bank accounts. Indeed, Win Without War isn't even close to the mainstream- it's the Left Bank.

The radical Left owes a great debt of gratitude to David Fenton. He has mixed Neo-Marxist ideology with junk science, trial lawyers, labor, progressive millionaires, politicians, and radical policy wonks to construct a complex, moneymaking left-wing advocacy empire. Fenton Communications reported billing $6 million dollars in 2002, and will likely make much more this year with high profile clients like The Heinz Family Foundation, the aforementioned Open Society Institute and Moveon.org.

The backbone of Win Without War is coalition member Moveon.org. Thousands of foot soldiers for the Democratic Internet sensation provide the bulk of Win Without War's membership. Moveon.org is currently partnering with Win Without War in a media campaign attacking the Bush administration's continued “ownership” of Iraq after the handover of sovereignty. The blatantly partisan ads also solicit donations for Moveon.org's 527 Political Action Committees.

Like Moveon.org, most Win Without War coalition members are closely linked to Fenton Communications. The NAACP, Medea Benjamin's Global Exchange and ice cream mogul Ben Cohen, founder of coalition member True Majority, all do business with Fenton. Other WWW members, like NOW, WAND, Peace Action and Fourth Freedom Forum have close ties with Fenton's rich clients or employees.

 

FrontPage magazine.com :: America's Red Army by Jennifer Verner
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14893

There's a lot more info at the link.

12 posted on 08/11/2005 5:57:43 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
I just got home from work and saw this post. I'm not sure if there has been a thread about some news I heard today. I live in the Bay Area and heard on local news station, KNEW 910, that members of this "womans" own family are publicly denouncing her and are appalled at her behavior for exploiting her own sons death to advance her twisted political agenda...hopefully this news will get out. S
13 posted on 08/11/2005 5:57:44 PM PDT by scott says (it was a woman who led me to drink...and I never did properly thank her)
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To: The Brush

I would be able to die happy hearing that. I feel bad for her in a true sense. If she is using her sons death to further her political beliefs then she can rot.


14 posted on 08/11/2005 5:58:40 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Brett66

The woman I have seen speaking on tv today sounds like someone is feeding her her lines. She pauses a long time in between sentences.


15 posted on 08/11/2005 5:58:54 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '06)
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To: beyond the sea
She wasn't as "odd" as usual, and was quite cogent, being very upset at the 'Able Danger' fiasco. She may be getting wise.

Breitweiser would have to double her IQ to get to triple digits. I still remember Breitweiser on the Today Show demanding to know why there wasn't some sort of deflection radar on planes to keep them from hitting buildings. She's dumb to the extreme.

Once someone tells her that it was the Clinton Administration that spiked the Atta intelligence, she'll settle down and make excuses.

16 posted on 08/11/2005 5:59:14 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Sam Hill

bookmark for future use


17 posted on 08/11/2005 5:59:21 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ain't life funny?)
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To: Chickensoup

"Be interesting to see how the money actually moves. Where did this information come from?"

I remembered this from last year, when the question was how the Tides Foundation (and TeRAYza) were paying all of these ultra leftwing operations.

(Such as Cindy's favorite, United For Peace And Justice.)


18 posted on 08/11/2005 5:59:31 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
On Bill O'Reilly's show tonight ( and no, Bill is off ), John Gibson did a section on Cindy and said that she was being " sponsored" by Soros and Code Pink and MooveOn and a lot of other far lefty groups."
19 posted on 08/11/2005 6:00:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Howlin; Mo1; prairiebreeze

Ping to Cindy in a George Soros ad.


20 posted on 08/11/2005 6:02:11 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Numbers Guy
Once someone tells her that it was the Clinton Administration that spiked the Atta intelligence, she'll settle down and make excuses.

She heard that claim (that the Clinton Administration that spiked the Atta intelligence) clearly tonight on the show, and she is GETTING IT!

She is not nearly as stupid as you think, imo.

21 posted on 08/11/2005 6:02:24 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: All

BUSH-BASHING MOM IS A LEFTIST USENET POSTER!!!

http://tinyurl.com/bncbp


22 posted on 08/11/2005 6:02:27 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalNewsGroups-PC.html)
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To: basil

Ping...we might need that burka on Saturday afterall!


23 posted on 08/11/2005 6:02:53 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Howlin; Mo1
"Now, it has another mission. Fenton has established a “war room” with CIP called The Iraq Policy Information Program (IPIP). Its main job is getting the anti-Bush foreign policy message out to the media and providing guests for talk shows. A featured speaker of the IPIP is former ambassador Joe Wilson, one of the Bush administration’s most vocal enemies. Like Moveon.org and Win Without War, the contact for the Iraq Policy Information Program is Fenton Communications. Win Without War also collects tax-deductible donations through CIP."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14893

Man, that Joe Wilson was busy last year.

24 posted on 08/11/2005 6:03:03 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: The Brush

John Conyers admitted sending Sheehan a check for $500....and I'm sure she is getting plenty of help from our enemies in the congress.


25 posted on 08/11/2005 6:03:24 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: MaineVoter2002

"BUSH-BASHING MOM IS A LEFTIST USENET POSTER!!!"

I did a thread on this yesterday:

Cindy Sheehan: "My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1460787/posts

You should check it out. (And add any usenet posts I missed.)


26 posted on 08/11/2005 6:04:51 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

bttt


27 posted on 08/11/2005 6:05:46 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: satchmodog9
She's using her son's death to further her political agenda and for attention to herself.

She has three other children, whom she is totally ignoring, BTW.

28 posted on 08/11/2005 6:08:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: All

In case you missed this thread on Nadia:

Cindy Sheehan's Partner - Nadia McCaffrey - Attempted Suicide Twice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1461624/posts?page=58#58


29 posted on 08/11/2005 6:08:24 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: satchmodog9

"Good point about their being fronted by some deep lefty pockets."

I love it that the whole premise behind these ads was that they were from just "ordinary people" you'd meet every day.

Turns out they are all from one group. And all of them seem to hate this country and to be mentally ill to a large degree.


30 posted on 08/11/2005 6:10:28 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
This on Drudge:

FAMILY OF FALLEN SOLDIER PLEADS: PLEASE STOP, CINDY!
Thu Aug 11 2005 12:56:21 ET

The family of American soldier Casey Sheehan, who was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has broken its silence and spoken out against his mother Cindy Sheehan's anti-war vigil against George Bush held outside the president's Crawford, Texas ranch.

The following email was received by the DRUDGE REPORT from Casey's aunt and godmother:

Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish. Thanks Ð Cherie

In response to questions regarding the Cindy Sheehan/Crawford Texas issue: Sheehan Family Statement:

The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect.

Sincerely,

Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.

Developing...


31 posted on 08/11/2005 6:10:31 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Sam Hill

YIKES...he sure was the busy bee, wasn't he?


32 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Sam Hill
Is that why I've yet to see a comment from Chris' father?

I really do not know, but it's been bothering me since this thing started......

33 posted on 08/11/2005 6:13:39 PM PDT by norton (new tagline pending)
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To: Sam Hill

listen to this -Sheehan caught on conference call strategizing with the looney left

http://www.joetrippi.com/files/cindy-call-081005.wav


34 posted on 08/11/2005 6:16:01 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: nopardons

Isn't it amazing how the same names keep popping up everywhere you look.

It shows how easy it is to manipulate the press. It just takes a handful of determined people. (And maybe some deep pockets like $oros.)

But most of all you have to be pushing what the media wants to push--how hateful is the USA.


35 posted on 08/11/2005 6:16:44 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: RDTF

"listen to this -Sheehan caught on conference call strategizing with the looney left"

BTW, I probably should have mentioned it--but this Real Voices ad campaign was clearly a Democrat campaign ad.

Cindy and her pals have been working directly with the Democrats (and getting paid for it) for some time now.


36 posted on 08/11/2005 6:18:37 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
Yes, it is amazing, but the same names cropped up in the '60s and '70s too. If only there had been the net and cable and FR back then, we could have stopped, or at least blunted a lot of things. But since a great deal of the funding and orders came from the KGB, maybe not. The KGB was more clever in hiding themselves, than Terry Kerry and Soros are.

But we all have to tell everyone we know, what we learn on FR. We are the NEW MEDIA! :-)

37 posted on 08/11/2005 6:28:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Sam Hill
And she's refusing to pay income taxes.

Can't we be whistle blowers and call the IRS with this info?

38 posted on 08/11/2005 6:29:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: beyond the sea

The MSM and Democrats are taking their 'talking points' straight out of al-Qaeda training manual or is it the the other way round?


39 posted on 08/11/2005 6:53:08 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: Sam Hill

Dirty rats!


40 posted on 08/11/2005 6:56:25 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Grampa Dave; AmericanInTokyo

Ping....


41 posted on 08/11/2005 6:57:18 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: TXBubba

Are you doing some FReeping this weekend?


42 posted on 08/11/2005 7:48:06 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Sam Hill; Rca2000

I'm sure this lady has to have a "sugar daddy." I mean most of us cannot take off and follow President Bush like some sort of groupie, most of us have jobs and need to make a living. if I lived a life like that, I would be reduced to odd jobs, panhandling and petty theft to bum around, wat and get fuel for my truck if I was in this woman's place. OK, I'll be merciful and say this, my heart goes out to her over the loss of her son, no one can replace him and so on. I'm sure she is having a hard time over it but she is not alone. Getting back to the subject at hand, she has to have a sugar daddy, as most have said, it seems that the likes of George Soros is pimping her around like a political version of a "ho." If I could talk to her, I would tell her that she is being used and just a tool for their agenda. I know myself, I have my disageements with the President over things like CAFTA and so on, but to do something like this comes close to stalking and is plain wrong and could be dangerous too, remember "Squeeky" Fromme? Somebody has to be feeding her and putting gas in her VW "hippie" Microbus. B-P


43 posted on 08/11/2005 8:02:28 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Draft Michael Savage for President! Michael Savage in '08!)
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To: Nowhere Man
Wow, first post by me yanked ,in 11 months of being here.I must say, I did NOT think my post was that bad, to get pulled. I guess I was just a little "hot under the collar", so to speak, having just heard her speaking about "listen to the president's lies", and when I saw the picture of her, on the big screen I had just got running, that was one of the first things that came to mind. And, the third one in the picture at the beginning of this thread, looks somewhat like Hillary, don't you think?

Maybe, however, I was being a little bit too rash, in my description of this obvious shill for the demoncratic party, and Soros and Move on, et al.
44 posted on 08/11/2005 8:59:40 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( "What? No gravy? (POW!!) "Next time, remember the gravy!!!")
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To: beaversmom

Yes, we are holding a "Support the Troops" Rally in Crawford. Here is the thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1461571/posts


45 posted on 08/11/2005 9:10:15 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: potlatch

"interconnected" ping


46 posted on 08/11/2005 9:39:54 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Rca2000

Think of it this way. With what we know now about the intelligence breakdowns during the Bubba admin., she is barking up the wrong tree, no????
She should demand to see Clinton, ask him why female interns were more important than national security, then ask the simple question of why my son died.
Lest we not forget it was these intel failures that led to 2,900 murders 4 years ago.


47 posted on 08/11/2005 9:54:29 PM PDT by cleveland gop (always right in the wrong part of Ohio)
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To: Sam Hill

From tonight's The DrudgeReport (8/11/05):

FAMILY OF FALLEN SOLDIER PLEADS: PLEASE STOP, CINDY!
Thu Aug 11 2005 12:56:21 ET

The family of American soldier Casey Sheehan, who was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has broken its silence and spoken out against his mother Cindy Sheehan's anti-war vigil against George Bush held outside the president's Crawford, Texas ranch.

The following email was received by the DRUDGE REPORT from Casey's aunt and godmother:

Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish.

Thanks, Cherie

In response to questions regarding the Cindy Sheehan/Crawford Texas issue: Sheehan Family Statement:

The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect.

Sincerely,

Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.

Developing...


48 posted on 08/11/2005 10:51:36 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; kcvl; Mo1
See what kcvl has uncovered about third member, Jane Bright's son:

Army Sgt. Evan Asa Ashcraft , 24, an infantryman with the 101st Airborne Division, was one of three soldiers killed in Iraq on July 24 when the convoy in which he was traveling came under attack from gunfire and rocket-propelled grenades. Ashcraft's division led the fiery assault in northern Iraq that killed Saddam Hussein's sons Odai and Qusai Hussein.

While his country will remember him as a hero, his family remembers him as a man of exceptional character. He was an accomplished student and musician, and aspired to complete his college education upon completing his military career.

"He was a person who really wanted to help other people, to protect them," says his wife, Ashley.

The Evan Ashcraft Memorial Scholarship Fund has been established by his family to distribute college scholarships for United States military personnel living or deceased who served in Operation Iraqi Freedom or for their dependents. Those who wish to contribute to this fund can do so above.

For his exemplary military service and the valor he exhibited in rescuing two soldiers from a disabled vehicle in April, he has been awarded the Purple Heart and the Bronze Star medals. Evan Ashcraft was buried with full military honors in Chatsworth on Saturday, August 2, 2003.
 

68 posted on 08/12/2005 12:50:58 PM EDT by kcvl
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Like Cindy (and probably nutty Nadia) Jane Bright is lying about her son--to get media attention.

Doesn't anyone in the media know how to use a search engine? Oh, I forgot--they only use them when they are digging up dirt on conservatives.

 

49 posted on 08/12/2005 10:28:50 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
Jane Bright's son:

Army Cpl. Evan Asa Ashcraft, 24, West Hills, Calif.;

Considering himself a protector, Cpl. Evan Ashcraft believed in his mission in Iraq and hoped to become a police officer when he returned home.

The 24-year-old infantryman was one of three soldiers killed July 24 when the convoy they were traveling in fell under attack from gunfire and rocket-propelled grenades. The attack at about 2:30 a.m. came in the middle of the desert as the convoy traveled toward Qayyarah, 185 miles north of Baghdad. Ashcraft's division led the fiery assault in northern Iraq that killed Odai and Qusai Hussein.

"He absolutely wanted to be there," said his father, Asa Ashcraft. "In his last letter, he said, 'Dad, I've seen an awful lot of stuff. We'll talk about it when I get back.'"

Ashcraft, a San Fernando Valley native, planned to join the Los Angeles Police Department upon his scheduled January discharge from the Army, said his wife, 23-year-old Ashley Ashcraft.

"He was a person who really wanted to help other people, to protect them," she said. Asa Ashcraft said his son was excited about joining the SWAT team, "And he would have made it, too. He set goals and achieved them."

50 posted on 08/12/2005 10:50:51 AM PDT by kcvl
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