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THE 9/11 COMMISSION IN MORTAL DANGER
The Corner on National Review Online ^ | 08/11/05 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 08/11/2005 5:57:46 PM PDT by TonyInOhio

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To: Allosaurs_r_us
Actually I think it is far worse than you state.
I forget the thread but I remember reading that Gorelick was slid into Renos chair to devise a scheme that would basically exempt military intel, cia, fbi and the rest in favor of a group of lawyers who would intercept all intelligence,hence the wall, and distribute it as they saw fit. Basically giving Gorelick and probably Hillary a heads up on all intel before the intel agencies got it! Major bullsh!t, probably never ever tried by an adm. not at war before.
651 posted on 08/12/2005 3:30:37 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: rodguy911

Yep! I just kinda condensed it for the freeper who thinks we should ignore it cause "nothin will happen" to the clintoons.


652 posted on 08/12/2005 3:34:24 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
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To: Txsleuth
I heard that too sleuth, basically I think Rush said that analysts were surfing the websites of "likely candidates"(all perfectly legal) of terror and found the jackpot. Info like that was able to have been shared accd. to rush, but of course Hillary's lawyers rushed in and we had 911. I just hope someone puts it all together and has the bad guys prosecuted.
653 posted on 08/12/2005 3:35:41 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: wolf24

I'd laugh but it really is infuriating. But that's why we are here. We are the New Media and have a job to do. People who want the truth will seek it out.


654 posted on 08/12/2005 3:38:46 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: All

Can anyone tell me why Able Danger is not featured on Drudgereport?? WTF!!! I'm stuned


655 posted on 08/12/2005 3:40:25 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: bnelson44
It seems very hard to imagine this information would not be passed on to Secretary of Defense William Cohen, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, and the White House’s point man on counterterrorism, Richard Clarke. Yet, as of this moment, we have no direct confirmation that this information went any higher than the Pentagon lawyer.
 
From what I have read the lawyers for the Pentagon, having reviewed the evidence, decided because of Gorelicks memo they could not share the info with the FBI. What difference does it make whether or not it was 4 or 40? I don't understand what that possibly has to do with anything. Especially when the 4 included Atta and a couple of other pilots who carried out flying the planes on 9/11. If the info was not forwarded to Cohen, or Berger, makes little difference other than the fact the that the policies in place were inadequate and their staffs were grossly incompetent. The fact is, these 4 individuals should have been tracked down and apprehended, thus probably preventing the attack altogether. That is just criminal, as it most likely lead to 3,000 deaths. The only reason they were not picked up is because of the wall the Clintoon admin put in place in order to let lawyers decide what was relevant and what was not. So what is it you are not sure about? You are missing the whole point! This lies right in the lap of the previous administration. Clinton and Reno were calling the shots! They put into place the policies that let this happen! Why was this not included in the 9/11 report that Gorelick  bragged about being thorough and comprehensive? (she should have been answering questions, not deciding what went into the report!)
 
My own opinion is this wall was put into place so that BJ's buddies could intercept intelligence pertaining to his illegal money coming from a foreign government. Thereby hiding the info from the proper authorities or making it nearly impossible for anyone to put 2 and 2 together without an immense pile of red tape. But that is another crime altogether.
 
Atta being in the country a year before the Commission's fact finding shoots holes in the whole report. The fact that their staff knew of this, which by the way has already been documented by the NYTimes and the WAPost, does not give those sitting on the panel an excuse for omitting the facts. It looks like some of them knew this, but since it didn't fit what they had already decided they did not share it with others on the panel. This part is supposition, but it is very likely after reading the Pentagon's statements on Abel.
 
The fact that the Commission ignored these facts will bury those involved and likely expose the agenda of the Commission and Burger's destruction of classified documents. I have read enough from various sources that this is all fact. Saying it has yet to be proved is nonsense. The facts are there. All you have to do is connect the dots. Just because a court or special investigative panel has yet to publicize it doesn't mean it does not exist until then.
 
If you followed all of the links on the thread and read all of the info, I don't see how you can come to any other conclusion. Unfortunately many people will read only what is posted on the original thread and then make comments without being informed of the whole story. It pays to absorb all of the info presented by your fellow FReeps so you can make an informed judgment.
 

656 posted on 08/12/2005 4:29:33 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
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To: Nita Nupress
This was from a Newsmax article Saturday, June 11, 2005 posted by Invisible Church on 6/11/05. Just do a search for Gorelick and go to that post date for it. Good info in this post.

I did paste the sentenses you cited because they sum up Gorelick's role as well as Web Hubblell being her predecessor. It also credits William Safire as having the inside track on who called for Gorelick in the first place. Web Hubbell served 16 months for his over charges to his Arkansas law firm and his clients. He also plead guilty on a tax charge that was later dismissed by the U.S. Supreme Court due to fifth admendment issues concerning private documents.

It seems as if Hitlary was cutting and pasting "eyes and ears" from the same cloth--Heh! Heh!

657 posted on 08/12/2005 4:47:16 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Lone Red Ranger

Just now reading your post...

but, you reminded me of one name that hasn't been mentioned in the last few days....George Tenet...

hmmmmmmmmm--I wonder if George Tenet's fingers could have been in this stew? Remember, he was a Clinton guy!


659 posted on 08/12/2005 5:10:53 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Germaine Brousard: She deserves a medal for what she does for the troops!)
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To: wolf24
You are absolutely right.
It looks like the buck is stopping here.It is now up to the new media to put this story in the light where it belongs. If we delve enough into it they(the old media/MSM) won't be able to ignore it forever. Remember this story had a life before and it died. it has come back we have a second chance.
One key will be for us to immediately correct every spin the old media tries, that's their mo and they will undoubtedly try and lie or change the topic asap. We need to nail them every time they do it.
I don't understand drudge.
660 posted on 08/12/2005 6:51:34 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: wolf24

Just wrote my REPUBLICAN congresscritter and asked him if it was 'all for one and one for all' once a politician is elected (in re: covering each other's butts).


661 posted on 08/12/2005 6:52:31 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I was wondering lately if DRUDGE has gone MAINSTREAM????


662 posted on 08/12/2005 6:53:17 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: antceecee

"I was wondering lately if DRUDGE has gone MAINSTREAM????"

He certainly hasn't had any "scoops" for a long time!


663 posted on 08/12/2005 6:55:02 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

He's becoming a SELL-OUT!!!!

..shame on him.


664 posted on 08/12/2005 7:07:44 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: antceecee

What the f!!!

Look at his latest "breaking news":


'IDOL' PAULA ABDUL CLEARED BY SPECIAL FOX INVESTIGATOR... Statement from Paula Abdul // 'I’m grateful this ordeal is over, and I’m so looking forward to getting back to the job I love. Once again, I thank my fans from throughout the world for their undying love and support'...


665 posted on 08/12/2005 7:13:11 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

What a BUFFOON!


666 posted on 08/12/2005 7:15:12 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: antceecee

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1462416/posts?page=122#122


667 posted on 08/12/2005 7:31:24 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Lone Red Ranger

I am with you -- think Freepers would be glad to offer Weldon our services -- won't find better researchers and we all come cheap! :)


668 posted on 08/12/2005 7:50:27 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: beyond the sea
Great post because it puts the Clintons exactly in the target for charges of high crimes against the United States. The Wall used to create a blind eye to scrutiny into Chicom campaign contributions for technology is the heart of my post #508. What I failed to emphasize is that this could have serious implications to the Clintons; especially Hitlary's 2008 presidential ambitions.

What is difficult to understand is why the Clintons and all of their operatives have not been frog marched to their arrest and charged for high crimes against the United States. That is one more question that needs to be asked.
669 posted on 08/12/2005 10:23:20 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: princess leah

".He and Jamie Gorelick ought to both be hauled into court and sued by Joe American!"

MAKE THAT EXECUTED BY FIRING SQUAD!


670 posted on 08/12/2005 10:26:40 PM PDT by AmericanDave (God bless us everyone.......Yargghhh!)
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To: defconw
I think the pieces of the puzzle are starting to reveal some very serious information about the Clintons. I think that the indictment of Gorelick would be a good first start. I am wondering if President Bush's Justice Department is up to the task of moving on the Clintons and their operatives. Stay tuned my friend, this is going to be an interesting ride through history.
671 posted on 08/12/2005 10:32:17 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: PhiKapMom

Yeah, heads at the NY times will roll.....

We can hope for Gorlick's and Berger's heads too! Hillary?


672 posted on 08/12/2005 10:51:44 PM PDT by AmericanDave (God bless us everyone.......Yargghhh!)
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To: PhiKapMom

They may feel they have to break the lesser scandal, to ignore the greater 911 scandal....


673 posted on 08/12/2005 10:59:40 PM PDT by AmericanDave (God bless us everyone.......Yargghhh!)
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To: defconw

I am 41 too and I agree.


674 posted on 08/12/2005 11:00:44 PM PDT by SoCar (I fully support John Roberts.)
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To: LucyJo

And sometimes we think the answer to prayers was "No" when the answer was really "Wait!"


675 posted on 08/12/2005 11:33:55 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: jonrick46

" I am wondering if President Bush's Justice Department is up to the task of moving on the Clintons and their operatives."
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Only if "we the people" demand it in large enough numbers and loud enough voices.


676 posted on 08/13/2005 3:25:53 AM PDT by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: TonyInOhio

do you suppose, it is possible, the 911 families can file a class action suit against this Commission?


677 posted on 08/13/2005 3:32:17 AM PDT by mo
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To: jonrick46

I hope the President does not act like a gentleman on this. If Clinton is dirty which he most likely is, expose him.


678 posted on 08/13/2005 4:29:40 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: TonyInOhio

bttt


679 posted on 08/13/2005 4:37:46 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: maryz
I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary mapped out the desired ends, and Gorelick figured out the means.



680 posted on 08/13/2005 4:50:36 AM PDT by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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To: SerpentDove

681 posted on 08/13/2005 4:57:48 AM PDT by petercooper (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice.)
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To: petercooper

THANKS!!!! I've been looking all over for that graphic.

That needs to be published far and wide right now, throughout FR and the blogosphere.

(That's the first time I've used the term "blogosphere"...and it felt GOOD!)


682 posted on 08/13/2005 8:34:33 AM PDT by SerpentDove (This message printed on 100% recycled electrons.)
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To: StoneGiant
Waaayyy to likely to be funny . . .

But LOL anyway!

683 posted on 08/13/2005 9:13:20 AM PDT by maryz
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To: TonyInOhio
The biggest mass murderer in US history.


684 posted on 08/13/2005 9:16:06 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: SerpentDove

Identify the player on the Left? (OK, they're all on the left... but I assume the others are Bill, Madeleine, and Sandy?)


685 posted on 08/13/2005 11:10:52 AM PDT by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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To: AmericanDave

A Question to ponder:
What did Sandy Burg[l]er take out of the National Archives?
Why was he there, what did he stuff down his pants?
Clinton, Burg[l]er, and the whole bunch should be thoroughly investigated on this issue.


686 posted on 08/13/2005 11:16:31 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Mo1

Under little-known, but established, US Supreme Court-sanctioned precedent, Jamie Gorelick, as a former Federal bureaucrat, can & should be sued civilly for gross dereliction of duty, for contributory negligence and culpability in 3,000 deaths (& counting), and for gross negligence as the DOJ "Wall of Separation" memo author, which greatly & unconscionably expanded the "letter of the law" to, in effect, protect spies and terrorists.

This in turn may lead to other higher up Clinton Administration officials being revealed as complicit or culpable under discovery, deposition and courtroom testimony.

Certainly the infamous Gorelick DOJ memo was consistent with the highly cautious and overly legalistic approach of the Clinton Administration (& The Clinton White House) toward National Security, espionage, and terrorism issues.


687 posted on 08/13/2005 11:28:04 AM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: TonyInOhio

Ping for later (thanks for posting)


688 posted on 08/13/2005 11:39:49 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: bigsigh; Brad's Gramma; BurbankKarl
Penn Congressman Curt Weldon is writing a book soon to be released and a few months ago came across information that the Commission chose to ignore, and he is deeply disturbed......was on Foxnews Sat morning, and wants to know what the hell is going on with the coverup by the Commision.

See the Atta..Able Danger keyword list for the rapidly growing list of threads.

689 posted on 08/13/2005 1:23:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: StoneGiant

It is Clinton's Secretary of Defense, William Cohen


690 posted on 08/13/2005 1:38:33 PM PDT by SerpentDove (This message printed on 100% recycled electrons.)
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To: TonyInOhio
Prepare the gallows!
691 posted on 08/13/2005 3:01:55 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: StoneGiant

692 posted on 08/14/2005 11:04:47 AM PDT by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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To: PhiKapMom

bttt


693 posted on 08/14/2005 12:29:55 PM PDT by petercooper (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice.)
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To: bigsigh

"I know the AD story is new. Was wondering why Gorelick's memo did not hit the fan earlier. Did it require the military to leak the rest of the story?"

I'm not sure of the exact answer, but to me, it seems like the difference is that there is a congressman running a congressional inquiry. The mainstream media can usually ignore practically anything else.

I don't have cable, so I can't evaluate Fox directly. But it seems to me that they are generally complicit with covering things up like the other networks. Once a story breaks, they have a more fair view.


694 posted on 08/15/2005 7:30:14 AM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

thanx


695 posted on 08/16/2005 6:25:28 AM PDT by bigsigh
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To: strategofr

thanx


696 posted on 08/16/2005 6:25:50 AM PDT by bigsigh
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To: defconw

You must be joking. The only thing that will get Natalie off the headlines is another missing blonde. RATmedia concentration on these news lite stories is deliberate just as its suppression of any antiRAT story and wild overplaying of any antiBush story are deliberate.

There is no greater danger to this nation that the RATmedia and FOX is no exception.


697 posted on 08/16/2005 6:39:47 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: neodad

Though you would never find out from the RATmedia Joe Wilson was a SPECIAL ASSISTANT to President Bill Clinton. Just the guy one would send to discredit a Bush statement.


698 posted on 08/16/2005 6:45:53 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Yes I know but FReepers have been very effective at switching the media's attention. We have to keep the pressure on.


699 posted on 08/16/2005 7:00:59 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: rodguy911; Txsleuth; Echo Talon; Wolfstar; LS; Stellar Dendrite
Where did the story regarding these guys and Karl Rove go?

Credit to Echotalon for graphic.

700 posted on 08/16/2005 7:06:44 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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