Posted on 08/11/2005 7:52:35 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
Staff members of the Sept. 11 commission are investigating allegations by a GOP congressman that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta had been identified as a potential threat by a highly classified Defense Department program a year or more before the attacks occurred.
Commission officials confirmed a report in yesterday's New York Times that two staff members interviewed a uniformed military officer, who alleged in July 2004 that a secret program called "Able Danger" had identified Atta as a potential terrorist threat in 1999 or early 2000....."
"....Panel investigators viewed the claim as unlikely..."
"..Weldon recently published a book...Many of the allegations are based on information from a source discounted by the CIA as a fabricator."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
What they say, goes.
Absolutely. Just ask President Kerry.
WaPo to the rescue!
The $hit ought to hit the fan on this story BUT I am afraid that it will be covered up like the rest of Bergers panty things??????
I'd hate to be a subordinate around Lard Legs about now. You can bet that the "hits" have been ordered. This IS a defining moment in the Beast's political career, and all the armies they have and all the favors owed, will be called to action to protect her.
The spin started in the first sentence. That these are "allegations by a GOP congressman". These are NOT his allegations, they are from his intelligence sources, several.
Is this true?
Able Danger Gate could hit the beast like Holy Water and I'de love to watch.
Bush will try to shut down Weldon on this. Wait and see. Weldon better announce hearings right away before the WH gets to him.
Is that staff still hanging on? (Like the temporary telephone tax they instituted in 1897 or thereabouts, during the Spanish-American war. But least they are trying to kill that. Again.)
He had a choice between fooling around with Monica
or taking out Mohammed Atta.
He could have taken out Osama bin Laden.
He choose Monica.
3000 Americans dead.
1000's injured.
Children left without Mom's or Dad's.
Parents left without their children.
War starts.
President Bush must defend and protect our country.
The left screams in bitter vitriol against our President.
President Bush had a choice too.
He had a choice between fooling around with America's National Security or sending the terrorists to Hell.
Soldiers defend and protect our nation and freedom.
They have sacrificed their lives for us.
All because Bill Clinton had a choice but his choice gave us this hell.
President Bush said America " Will Not Falter".
"Will not Fail".
"We Will Hunt'em Down".
And, that by George, we are.
God Bless America.
God Bless her brave and mighty Armed Forces.
Godspeed.
We know you are making the right choice.
Keep On Fighting On! Because America Stands Tall For You!!!
I don't disagree with most of that, but your blanket statement that the leftist media decides everything is simply untrue, and needed to be gently poked.
Staff members of the Sept. 11 commission are investigating allegations by a GOP congressman that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta had been identified as a potential threat by a highly classified Defense Department program a year or more before the attacks occurred.[emphasis added]
The astute reader will notice that it was the 9-11 Commission Staff members who allegedly withheld this info from the Commissioners in the first place. Ergo, we have have a case of the alleged perpetrators being asked to investigate their own wrongdoing.
That sure imbues me with confidence in the predictable results of this "investigation" .....
Sandy Burglars Pantyraid - Hardly reported on.
Air America's Financial Finagling - Barely reported.
9/11 Commission Excludes key piece of Evidence - Crickets chirping.
but ron , it's a new tone. sites like this one will go around him as well. this is to big. the cbs/rather scam took a long time to build. the sites are stonger now since the recents elections.
They probably aren't sure how to handle this yet
Essay; Inside The Bunker
By WILLIAM SAFIRE (NYT) Op-Ed 727 words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 27 , Column 1
ABSTRACT - William Safire Op-Ed column on activities at President's Emergency Operations Center, underground facility hardened to withstand blast overpressure from nuclear detonation, to which Secret Service brought Vice Pres Cheney and other high administration officials after World Trade Center attack;
says Secret Service received threat that 'Air Force One is next,' and that is why they did not allow Pres Bush to return to White House immediately; says most troublesome question is ****how did terrorists get code-word information**** and transponder know-how that allowed them to convey their threat; says knowledge of code words and presidential whereabouts and possession of secret procedures indicates terrorists may have mole in White House, or informants in Secret Service, FBI, FAA or CIA (M)
If it turns out to be true that we could have, and indeed should have, arrested four of the terrorists involved in 9/11 but didn't and that fact was covered up by the 9/11 commission, or staffers of the 9/11 commission, than this story is not nothing. I heard Congressman Weldon today say that he has two intelligence officers related to 'Able Danger' willing to testify under oath that this is the case. Yes we will have to see how this all unfolds but to blow it off as 'nothing' is certainly premature.
What was the date on the Safire piece?
"Staff members of the Sept. 11 commission are investigating ALLEGATIONS by a Republican congressman....interviewed a uniformed military officer, who ALLEGED in July 2004"
The MSM fix has begun, sometimes I can only say WTF is going on?
Why are 911 commission staffers still together ?
um....did anybody authorize additional funding for this ?
"the CIA fabricator"? Well my understanding is that the source was DIA, not the CIA and those super spooks usually don't share their work products, especially not during the Klinton Reign of Terror.
John Podhertz at NRO is speculating that the 9/11 Commission squashed this because it disrupted their timeline of Atta's whereabouts. They couldn't have that happen because they didn't want there to be any chance that Atta had met with Iraqi intelligence.
Fuzzy on why, but he feels that this info would leave room for such a meeting in the timeline. Pretty hugh story if all of the sudden there really was a meeting...
The screaming you hear is Howard Dean...again.
I'm really not interested in what "panel investigators" think. Their credibility is suspect at this time.
You mean Bill Clinton, Goelick and Clark, don't you?
Staff members of the Sept. 11 commission
Yes, and just how sharp and 'investigative' do you think these 'staff members' were during their free trip to Asia where they were told this information? Chances are very good that they were enjoying a pretty good night out on the town when the information was given to them. Hard to remember details like that after a taxpayer-paid-for dinner, lots of bubbly and maybe even a taxpayer-paid-for romp in the hay.
It didn't take long for the WaPo to come to the rescue, either. Some reporter must have gotten a call from a political staffer.
Congressman Weldon today say that he has two intelligence officers related to 'Able Danger' willing to testify under oath that this is the case
Man I sure hope these guys have body guards 24/7. Most likely they will just quietly disappear to a military assignment just east of Siberia....
No, it's not true. Atta went to Afghanistan in 2000 for training. One of his friends - Mossediq?- is on trial in Germany for convering for Atta and his associates while they went to Afghanistan for training. But they may already have been Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda sympathizers before taking that trip.
The WaPo just ripped it off their DNC Fax Machine and printed it verbatim.
Name them!
Early on, I think it was the CIA that tried to kill the story that Atta had met with an Iraqi security agent in Prague.
NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES
Outline of the 9/11 Plot
between November and December of 1999, Atta, Jarrah, Shehhi, and Binalshibh went to Afghanistan, traveling separately
Binalshibh, Atta, and Jarrah met with Bin Ladins deputy, Mohamed Atef, who directed them to return to Germany and enroll in flight training. Atta was chosen as the emir, or leader, of the mission. He met with Bin Ladin to discuss the targets: the World Trade Center, which represented the U.S. economy; the Pentagon, a symbol of the U.S. military; and the U.S. Capitol, the perceived source of U.S. policy in support of Israel. The White House was also on the list, as Bin Ladin considered it a political symbol and wanted to attack it as well. KSM and Binalshibh have both stated that, in early 2000, Shehhi, Atta, and Binalshibh met with KSM in Karachi for training that included learning about life in the United States and how to read airline schedules.
By early March 2000, all four new al Qaeda recruits were back in Germany. They began researching flight schools in Europe, but quickly found that training in the United States would be cheaper and faster. Atta, Shehhi, and Jarrah obtained U.S. visas, but Binalshibhthe sole Yemeni in the groupwas rejected repeatedly. In the spring of 2000, Atta, Shehhi, and Jarrah prepared to travel to the United States to begin flight training. Binalshibh would remain behind and help coordinate the operation, serving as a link between KSM and Atta.
While Jarrah took these personal trips, Atta traveled to Germany for an early January 2001 meeting with Ramzi Binalshibh. Atta reported that the pilots had completed their training and were awaiting further instruction from al Qaeda. After the meeting, Atta returned to Florida and Binalshibh headed to Afghanistan to brief the al Qaeda leadership. As soon as Atta returned to Florida, Shehhi took his foreign trip, an unexplained eight-day sojourn to Casablanca.
http://tinyurl.com/cn834
Not sure the last time the CIA was right about anything though: Slam dunk on WMD's...not so much. 9/11...not so much. Berlin Wall coming down, collapse of the evil empire, Soviet coup attempt...not so much.
With people like Valerie Plame working for them, I wonder how much of the CIA bureacracy is like the cesspool at the State Department. Certainly some incredibly capable folks there but you wonder what kind of a voice they have.
Thanks. September 13, 2001. Two days after 9/11.
At the time, I could not understand why the CIA was so intent on killing this story. I still don't understand it.
That's a joke, right?
Congress should be investigating the "9/11 Commission" and its staffers. I believe that the omission of the "Able Danger" intelligence from the commission's report was deliberate and malicious. With national security at stake, this commission can no longer be dismissed as just a mischievous laughingstock - - it may have conducted itself in a criminal manner.
it should be looked into. maybe it's nothing. but. i recall seeing a vidio tapes of atta at the airport , shortly after the strike. who he was-his status-were he went to school-where he lived-his deep intrest in modern dance. someone had all of this info before the attack. thats all i'm saying. it can't hurt to look. it may help either way. i'm not interested in hunting down the usual suspects, our future is bigger than any of them. lets learn.
Bingo, just as in the blatant conflict-of-interest that Jamie Gorelicker had in serving on the 9/11 Commission:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120560/posts
Yup. You can bet the comPost is going to try to discredit the story. Why? Because it would be the beginning of the end for them.
9/11 Staffers investigating their own incompetance. Hah!
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