Skip to comments.Russia’s chief rabbi predicts the imminent coming of a Messiah
Posted on 08/12/2005 9:49:49 AM PDT by jb6
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And I must second these statements. As ever, well said.
Well, then I must face the consequences. Can you do any better? Can you truly say you know the will of G-d better than I do?
Man can not presume to know the mind of the Lord, nor his essence.
Although, the bell would be nice. "DING! Congratulations. Your...mitzvot and good deeds quotient is now completed...Please prepare for heaven. Thank you, and have a nice eternity."
Thank you. I strive to be the best man I can, and most of the time, I report mediocre success! Huzzah for adequacy! ;)
AMEN!!! I am a Christian Zionist who agrees with this, and I believe that we should all be allowed to practice our beliefs without being FORCED to embrace anyone else's beliefs. Forced beliefs doesn't equal FREEDOM! When the Messiah comes, He will straighten it all out! :-) Alexander, your answers on here have been beautiful. Thank you for your compassion for the
MUSLIM Christian ZEALOTS that will sometimes try to FORCE our beliefs upon you. And pray for them. IF it is by FORCE then it isn't by FREEDOM/LIFE/and LOVE, and therefore it isn't by G-d. :-)
No problem. They're good people, and when you consider it, they really haven't done anything evil to me or others, and in fact, their intentions are good, and born out of a love of G-d; thus, it's my responsibility to be compassionate, to allow them the freedom of their beliefs,
The way I figure it, I am responsible for myself ultimately. Thus, my duty is to control my actions, not theirs, unless it affects others negatively. Which I don't believe it does. It might be irritating, but not harmful.
Now, if they are Islamofascist terrorists (and I do believe good Muslims exist, for the record, although I would caution that the Koran has some -seriously- disturbing passages and messages) and seek to destroy others, then it is all of our duty to stop them, any way we can, from destroying G-d's earth.
Again, thanks for the link, my friend.
>>>This was from the decree of Artaxerxes (Mar. 14, 445BC) in the book of Nehemiah (chapt 2) 173,880 days later and right on time Yeshua the Messiah rode into Jerusalem on the foal of an ass being proclaimed "King".<<<
Atraxerxes didn't dispatch angels. YHVH does. And, Yahshua announced his arrival and purpose in Luke chapter 4, which had nothing to do with a donkey ride, but everything to do with showing up on time, as per Nehemiah chapter ONE.
23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Daniel's prayer in chapter 9 = Selichot, like here:
Mass Prayer Against Expulsion at Foot of Holy Temple Mount
Cf. Nehemiah 1:1-6
If anything is indicative of the timing of the Messiah's arrival, it'll be in the same pattern as set forth in Daniel 9, timed from the Selichot (forgiveness) prayers, or specifically as in Nehemiah's case (as explained in Dan 9:25), the prayers for the restoration of Jerusalem.
If Elijah is expected to return (regardless of whether one considers that a past event with John the Baptist, and/or a future appearance at Pesach), then so could Messiah. Whichever, it seems prudent to be on the lookout for events such as a
rather than what some Christian authors say. If they are unable to perceive from their own Scripture (the NT) that YHVH is one and not a man (who must necessarily worship himself if he is YHVH), then I am going to avoid anything they peddle.
1 In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;
2 In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet (see below), that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
3 And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:
10 For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
Jewish worshippers gather during a prayer service at the Western Wall in the Old City of Jerusalem, Wednesday, Aug. 10, 2005. Tens of thousands of opponents of Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, scheduled to start on Aug. 17, gathered for a prayer service at the Western Wall, the holiest site where Jews are permitted to pray. (AP Photo/Kevin Frayer)
1 The words of Nehemiah the son of Hachaliah. And it came to pass in the month Chisleu, in the twentieth year, as I was in Shushan the palace,
2 That Hanani, one of my brethren, came, he and certain men of Judah; and I asked them concerning the Jews that had escaped, which were left of the captivity, and concerning Jerusalem.
3 And they said unto me, The remnant that are left of the captivity there in the province are in great affliction and reproach: the wall of Jerusalem also is broken down, and the gates thereof are burned with fire.
4 And it came to pass, when I heard these words, that I sat down and wept, and mourned certain days, and fasted, and prayed before the God of heaven,
5 And said, I beseech thee, O LORD God of heaven, the great and terrible God, that keepeth covenant and mercy for them that love him and observe his commandments:
6 Let thine ear now be attentive, and thine eyes open, that thou mayest hear the prayer of thy servant, which I pray before thee now, day and night, for the children of Israel thy servants, and confess the sins of the children of Israel, which we have sinned against thee: both I and my father's house have sinned.
You're very welcome!
And you infer from that what?
I'm sure your have the decoder ring and the rabbi does not?
Just want to know and I mean not disrespect.
Friend, you say I have the decoder ring and then you try to tell me you mean no disrespect? Forgive my scepticism.
I'm not inferring anything, I simply quoted Jesus. I think He spoke clearly enough for all to understand.
A short answer, regardless of their inflated egos, freepers don't get to judge. Bruising, I know.
Can you post after death, maybe I'll write a vanity.
He's not "behind the times" as a Jew. Christians believe the Messiah has come once & will come again. Jews believe the Messiah is yet to come. The Rabbi is in step with the Jewish belief.
It's not a hyphen...it's a blank space: G _D. Jews do not do speak, or write out the word of G-d Or Y-H It is too holy.
The reason that my answer was long (and most, including myself, agree that we don't get to judge), is that many Christians believe that there will be no judgement at all for them. There is also a canard floating around the Net stating that Jews in general don't believe in a world to come at all (besides the myth stating that Jews have to be perfect).
My purpose (with repeated disclaimer) was to convey various beliefs and study hints on the issue.
I perceive, sir, that you - a devout G-d fearing Jew, with respect for Christian's and love for G-d - are a perfect candidate to become one of the 144,000.
Tonight! Tonight would be wonderful.
There is dozen or so Jesuses coming in across our southern border every day...
Last week I hired Jesus to mow my lawn.
...uhhhh, are you really as ignorant as you appear?
uhhhh....you really need to read all the posts before exhibiting such a lack of social skills.
***A short answer, regardless of their inflated egos, freepers don't get to judge. Bruising, I know.***
Your answer was just a little too short to be accurate. I don't believe GestehenSieUndGibtAuf was seeking to "judge" anyone (correct me if I'm wrong GestehenSieUndGibtAuf ) but obeying the injunction of the NT of calling people to judge themselves.
"But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment."
(Additionally, you'r rephrasing of the mantra "Who are we to judge" is a little 90's - don'tcha think!)
...uhhhh, I DID...I read through them all from people who are a lot kinder than I am. I thought your original "uhhhh" was incredibly rude and ignorant.
Thank you. ;)
"Lighten up, Francis."
The Messiah came, and Is, and always will Be. Hallelujah! :-)
And still, some will call you deluded. We should all be so deluded, friend
There is a traditional view that avoids spelling it where it will be discarded so that one may observe the commandment about not taking the name in vain.
More like a couple of hundred.
Amen to that!
For those with a sense of humor:
The Messiah is coming! Everone look busy.
or how about:
The Messiah is coming! Someone get Him a towel!
(OK, that was bad, I hope it doesn't earn me a break from posting...)
The messiah of Christianity (aka Jesus) is claimed by Christianity to be the same as YHVH. The trinitarian tradition is something that most Christians are not going to question or challenge. Meanwhile, Jews hold on to the Shema as well they should.
A few months ago, my wife and I had a bunch of bills come due at the same time without the money to cover them all. I was embarrassed to do it, but I had to ask my parents for some money to tide us over, which my mother said she'd give us.
A few minutes later, my father called back. My parents needed some furniture moved and he'd pay my wife and me more than we'd asked for if we moved it for them. It really wasn't that big a deal, but it allowed me the dignity of earning the money.
As with my temporal parents, so with the Heavenly Parent. I would far rather earn my way into His good graces. I would be ashamed to have it handed to me as a gift.
I once heard a little story about a Christian and a Jew welcoming the messiah to Jerusalem. question #1 - is this your first visit to our fair city...
I expect the Messiah will come. I just don't expect it to happen soon.... More to the point, I don't believe in conducting my life, as if it will happen soon.
My best friend in middle school, whose father was a pastor, tried to get me to convert to Christianity. That was basically the deal I made with him.
A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."
Deu 4:29 But from there you will seek the Lord your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.
Luk 11:9 So I say to you, ask and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
If anyone wants to look at these... these are Old Testament verses that Christians believe Jesus fulfilled and then the Christian New Testament verses that go with them.
Since we are talking about the coming of the Messiah...
324 Messianic Prophecies
Their own Messiah stories are quite complex and HAPPENED IN THE PAST, ergo, your little rant about the Anti-Christ already happened and is history ~ you are about 2.5 millenia too late as it were!
Their Noah stories are also quite interesting ~ yes, they have Noah, or as he is more properly named, Ma-Nu. Odds are you think of the Noah story as just one of those things ~
I doubt I'm falling for anything here, but your ignorance of what a billion people who are allied to us in our war against terrorism is appalling.
His Messiah is coming but ours has already been here and is expected back. I hope it is shortly.
muawiyah, at it again, spewing more twisted leftist theology. No need wasting time and bandwidth on it. Twist the scripture to your own destruction.
Now who would do that other than various Moslem fanatics?
Either you and I are simply talking about totally different things, or you are a mole.
So, which is it?
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