Posted on 08/12/2005 5:10:05 PM PDT by new yorker 77
What about Davis and Berkley, California? Both are missing from the llist.
I think that Honolulu stats may be for Honolulu County, which includes a heck of a lot of military voters. Yet another reason this survey is screwed.
Re: Providence vs. Boston. Boston is not as liberal as you're painting it, and probably is similar to Providence in terms of having a big liberal and a big conservative contingent that vote Democrat together but hate each other. Boston's suburbs are what give the whole area its reputation as a liberal haven: Cambridge, Somerville, Newton, Brookline. Combined they have a population about 50% that of Boston but much more liberal.
I gotta disagree. There are such creatures as conservative Democrats in Massachusetts. Senator Birmingham was probably about as conservative as most of the RINOs that Bush loves. But Boston Democrats are liberal through and through. And the only conservatives I ever met were black or Goth. No kidding.
By comparison, Somerville is downright working class.
How would you describe the pro-life Democrats in Southie and West Roxbury? I think they have a lot in common with many southern conservatives, but their type is largely absent from the other cities I mentioned.
The white working class in Somerville is melting away like snowmen in April. They've all cashed in their real estate and moved to the suburbs. It's gentrifying like you wouldn't believe. (I'm part of it.)
Hartford is to the left of Boston, NYC, Los Angeles Baltimore and St. Paul? Really?
This survey reflects white flight more than anything else. All the other cities have held on to their conservative white populations better than Hartford.
Between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.
Not so sure about Southie, but when I lived in Westie, it was ultra-liberal. Even "Catholic" Memorial had a uniformly pro-abortion staff.
Appreciate the info, thanks.
Note to myself,
http://votingresearch.org/
if thinking of moving.
West Roxbury seems to vote overwhelmingly pro-life in Democrat primaries and races.
Southie, which is currently a mixture of blue collar Dems, yuppie Dems and white trash welfare collecting Dems, is liberal on every issue except for race and abortion. That will change over the next 15 years as the district becomes more socially liberal.
When was the last contested primary in West Roxbury? 1962?
Seriously, what do you mean when you say, "West Roxbury seems to vote overwhelmingly pro-life in Democrat primaries and races"?
There has not been a pro-life choice among the Democrats since Roe-v.-Wade at the presidential level, and at the city level, the machine annoints all the candidates.
The congressional race to succeed Joe Moakley in 2001. Steven Lynch vs. three pro-choice Democrats.
The congressional race to succeed Joe Moakley in 2001. Steven Lynch vs. three pro-choice Democrats.
The State Senator from West Roxbury, Marian Walsh, has a reputation for being more Catholic than the Pope--at least until she had her fill of the sex abuse scandal and has become more of a voice for the conservative lay people. (And she's been idiosyncratic about gay marriage, which brought up a challenger in the general last year.)
They ranked the cities by "most democrat". (Detroit 93%)
Which is why East Lansing and Muskegon didn't make the list.
In Oakland, the Gay Marriage ban failed in several mostly white high income townships/cities that voted for Bush. - Birmingham(lost 2-1), Bloomfield Hills, Bloomfield Twp, and Southfield Twp.
In also passed in the two most democrat parts of Oakland - Southfield and Pontiac(as well as Auburn Hills which is dem leaning, but more blue collar). Without those two cities, Bush would have won Oakland County by almost 40,000 votes.
And here's another interesting comparison.
Ann Arbor City (White majority)
Prop 2 Yes - 13643
Prop 2 No - 42668
Kerry - 13153
Bush - 45117
Detroit City
Prop 2 Yes - 152641
Prop 2 No - 143342
Bush 19343
Kerry 305258
Ann Arbor did not vote 80% for Bush, I think.
Bush - 13153 Kerry - 45117
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