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She's So Cool, So Smart, So Beautiful: Must Be a Girl Crush
New York Times ^ | August 11, 2005 | STEPHANIE ROSENBLOOM

Posted on 08/13/2005 1:35:10 AM PDT by nickcarraway

THE woman's long black hair whipped across her pale face as she danced to punk rock at the bar. She seemed to be the life of the party. Little did she know that she was igniting a girl crush. Susan Buice was watching, and she was smitten.

Ms. Buice, 26, and the dancer (actually a clothing designer) happen to live in the same Brooklyn apartment building, so Ms. Buice, a filmmaker, was later able to soak up many other aspects of her neighbor's gritty yet feminine style: her layered gold necklaces; her fitted jackets; her dark, oversize sunglasses; and her Christian Dior perfume.

"I'm immediately nervous around her," Ms Buice said. "I stammer around her, and it's definitely because I think she's supercool."

Ms. Buice, who lives with her boyfriend, calls her attraction a girl crush, a phrase that many women in their 20's and 30's use in conversation, post on blogs and read in magazines. It refers to that fervent infatuation that one heterosexual woman develops for another woman who may seem impossibly sophisticated, gifted, beautiful or accomplished. And while a girl crush is, by its informal definition, not sexual in nature, the feelings that it triggers - excitement, nervousness, a sense of novelty - are very much like those that accompany a new romance.

This is not a new phenomenon. Women, especially young women, have always had such feelings of adoration for each other. Social scientists suspect such emotions are part of women's nature, feelings that evolution may have favored because they helped women bond with one another and work cooperatively. What's new is the current generation's willingness to express their ardor frankly.

"Historically, talking about these kinds of feelings has gone in and out of fashion,"

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lesbianbutnotquite; society; women

1 posted on 08/13/2005 1:35:11 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Another episode from the New York Times' continuing series of "Lifestyles of the Shallow and Stupid NY Liberal Female"...


2 posted on 08/13/2005 1:40:23 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: nickcarraway

Sometimes I think we're due for another great flood.


3 posted on 08/13/2005 1:40:27 AM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
Sometimes I think we're due for another great flood.

Good time to be a boat salesman...

4 posted on 08/13/2005 1:42:33 AM PDT by JRios1968 (If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else will do it for you.)
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To: nickcarraway
......helped women bond with one another and work cooperatively.....

Yeah, well, let the same man be their mutual object of attention and all that will fly out the window.


5 posted on 08/13/2005 1:42:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nickcarraway

This is some of the most insipid drivel I've ever seen. BARF!


6 posted on 08/13/2005 1:43:46 AM PDT by kb2614 ("Speaking Truth to Power" - What idiots say when they want to sound profound!!)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
Well, then, I would alert your attention to Genesis 8:21.

And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

-- Genesis 8:21, KJV


7 posted on 08/13/2005 1:47:10 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick)
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To: nickcarraway

What a steaming pile.


8 posted on 08/13/2005 1:58:28 AM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

LOL! Well said!


9 posted on 08/13/2005 2:15:19 AM PDT by Shawndell Green (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: nickcarraway
The reason to put this particular string of words together is...what? Because it's there?
10 posted on 08/13/2005 2:27:07 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: nickcarraway
Penthouse chronicled this phenomenon far better than this article. Sometimes a picture is worth far more than a thousand words.

Someone at work told me there's stuff like that on the internet, but I don't believe him.

11 posted on 08/13/2005 2:49:51 AM PDT by Petronius (Hunter S. Thompson: Shine On You Crazy Diamond!)
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To: nickcarraway
Social scientists suspect such emotions are part of women's nature, feelings that evolution may have favored because they helped women bond with one another and work cooperatively.

What? A NY Times reporter suggesting that women might be genetically different in their emotions from men?

12 posted on 08/13/2005 2:50:36 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today Show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
Sometimes I think we're due for another great flood.

Well, there is a biblical precedent of great love and friendship between two women, in the story of Ruth.

Ruth pledged to Naomi: "Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God. Where you die I will die, and there I will be buried. May the Lord deal with me, be it ever so severely, if anything but death separates you and me"

13 posted on 08/13/2005 2:53:50 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today Show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BWAHAHAHA!


15 posted on 08/13/2005 3:05:39 AM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin

Thanks!

I thought it had merit.


16 posted on 08/13/2005 3:06:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nickcarraway

Men must be very careful these days when looking for a wife. If your girlfriend is obsessed with such nonsense as other women in dark, oversized sunglasses, run far, far, away.
The end result is not worth it.


17 posted on 08/13/2005 3:21:53 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Need a Waffle House in Massachusetts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That's so old fashioned, today they would share and share alike.


18 posted on 08/13/2005 3:26:15 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: nickcarraway

"What's new is the current generation's willingness to express their ardor frankly."

Oh, fi on that. Eleanor Franklin and women of her age, my mother included, wrote gushy, mushy letters and said adoring things about their women friends to each other.

The Victorian women were the absolute masters of gushy feminine admiration.

Mother was not Victorian, but she certainly was Edwardian with all the mush included.


19 posted on 08/13/2005 3:34:06 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: nickcarraway

Stephanie Rosenbloom.

Related:

I can sympathize with Stephanie Rosenbloom, I can. In case you don’t read The New York Times, she has complained that the only image of her on the Internet was nine years old, bohemian, brunette and unflattering, and it followed her around like a Ghost of Fashion Unconsciousness Past. She mentioned that she was now a blonde who wore stiletto heels. Presumably, her current incarnation is much more attractive. However, she hasn’t yet posted a new picture of herself online, so we have to take her word for it. Yyyeah. Might want to fix that, Steph.

20 posted on 08/13/2005 3:42:54 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I laugh every time I look at it. There's just something so human about that picture.


21 posted on 08/13/2005 3:50:55 AM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin

LOL

Humor is rooted in reality.


22 posted on 08/13/2005 3:56:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So, you're saying that Ruth and Naomi may have been the first "girl crush" situation? Good grief, Charlie Brown.
":^(


23 posted on 08/13/2005 4:07:03 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: nickcarraway

24 posted on 08/13/2005 4:12:18 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: nickcarraway

Sheesh. You can't make this stuff up.


25 posted on 08/13/2005 4:34:33 AM PDT by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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To: willstayfree
They actually think this trash helps sell their paper? So boring! I suspect the author, if not a homosexual, is active in advancing the homosexual agenda.

Was this the same guy who coined the word "metrosexual"? What a waste of pulp.
26 posted on 08/13/2005 4:40:16 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Jaysun
What a steaming pile.

Why? As a female, I find it to be very true. And very sad.

27 posted on 08/13/2005 5:31:05 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

"Another episode from the New York Times' continuing series of "Lifestyles of the Shallow and Stupid..."

Tell me about it! This sort of emotion is appropriate to the 9 to 15yr age group. These "adults" are seriously emotionally retarded.


28 posted on 08/13/2005 5:51:26 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: AntiGuv

Ok, fire then!


29 posted on 08/13/2005 6:01:52 AM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, you can tell who actually read the article and understood it vice the folks who had a knee-jerk reaction at the headline or lead.


30 posted on 08/13/2005 6:05:13 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"Social scientists suspect such emotions are part of women's nature, feelings that evolution may have favored because they helped women bond with one another and work cooperatively."

Evolution of emotion? Really? I wonder what the genetic structure of that looks like? Nice "just-so story" about the evolutionary advantages. The evolution of cooperation.


31 posted on 08/13/2005 6:14:52 AM PDT by Aloysius88 (tagline has suffered dain bramage)
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To: AntiGuv

Also, Maybe because there are at least 10 righteous people still left. Genesis 18:32


32 posted on 08/13/2005 7:35:49 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: nickcarraway
Must be an ad for that Lifetime show with beautiful lesbians...

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
33 posted on 08/13/2005 7:43:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway
"I'm immediately nervous around her," Ms Buice said. "I stammer around her, and it's definitely because I think she's supercool."

Yep, that sounds very adult.

34 posted on 08/13/2005 7:44:17 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: nickcarraway

Insipid, self-absored, Lesbo-American twit bump for later.


35 posted on 08/13/2005 7:45:25 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Social scientists suspect such emotions are part of women's nature, feelings that evolution may have favored because they helped women bond with one another and work cooperatively.

What? A NY Times reporter suggesting that women might be genetically different in their emotions from men?

In the crapola of leftwing liturgy, "bonding" and "cooperation" are considered high virtues. Therefore it is permissible and even desirable to explain why they distinguish womyn from those eeeevil men.

36 posted on 08/13/2005 8:11:24 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Good analysis, IMO. But we don't dare suggest that men and women's intelligence might vary in any way!


37 posted on 08/13/2005 10:08:43 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today Show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Well, no. But I just wanted to point out a touching Bible story about a wonderful friendship among two women.


38 posted on 08/13/2005 10:10:14 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today Show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

That you should even consider debasing the beautiful story of Ruth and Naomi with this tripe of a story from the NYT, makes me question your brain functions. Ruth was such a good example of devotion to her elderly mother-in-law that, though she had been a heathen Moabitess, she later married Boaz, thus becoming an ancestor of the Savior. Watch your mouth.


39 posted on 08/13/2005 10:15:43 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Another episode from the New York Times' continuing series of "Lifestyles of the Shallow and Stupid NY Liberal Female"...

Not necessarily. I'm neither stupid nor liberal, and I had a few nonsexual "crushes" like that in my late teens and early twenties. A good friend's younger sister seems to have had one on me when she was in her early twenties. I just don't think they're important enough to warrant newspaper coverage. But it's an interesting phenomenon IMO - on reflection, I'd say that it's a last ditch "eek, I'm almost a grownup!" check for role models.

Now what it says that New York women are still looking for role models in their thirties is another matter altogether.

40 posted on 08/13/2005 10:18:01 AM PDT by Foxfire4
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To: Aloysius88
["Social scientists suspect such emotions are part of women's nature, feelings that evolution may have favored because they helped women bond with one another and work cooperatively."]

Evolution of emotion?

Yes.

Really?

Yes, really.

I wonder what the genetic structure of that looks like?

The same as the genetic structure of other traits: sequences of nucleotides. For example:

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41 posted on 08/13/2005 10:19:30 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

A brief tidal wave for NYC, and an earthquake for So.Cal.?


I think God promised no more "great floods".


42 posted on 08/13/2005 10:20:02 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: nickcarraway

Gee a "gay" newspaper taking innocent hero worship and turning it into a homosexual wet fantasy.

NYT? so I was right, it IS from a "gay" newspaper.


43 posted on 08/13/2005 10:32:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: kittymyrib

I was not debasing the story. It is one of my favorites. You'll note I refer to it as a touching story of a wonderful friendship.

But hey, you sound like a fun FReeper. Tell me, what was it like during time of the Puritans? Were you one of the people who locked people into the stocks for being insufficiently pious?


44 posted on 08/13/2005 11:30:04 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today Show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: nickcarraway
Sounds like somebody was having trouble coming up with original material for a column. This NYT story looks like a retread of a student paper editorial titled "Just a Little Girl Crush", written in 2003: "She caused me to stop in my tracks. Rather than progressing up the road to the next store, I stood still on the corner and waited until she was out of sight. Call it what you will: Envy, jealously or hatred. I call it a girl crush." Etc.

Read the 2003 article here.

45 posted on 08/13/2005 11:40:49 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
Sometimes I think we're due for another great flood.

Aint the irony of them pickin the rainbow for the twink symbol deep ?

I don't think a flood though I think a mongol horde is whats in store. Like the Assyrians of OT times.
46 posted on 08/13/2005 4:20:15 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: nickcarraway
I didn't know that Micky Spillane was now writing for the NYSlimes.
47 posted on 08/13/2005 4:43:54 PM PDT by fish hawk (hollow points were made to hold pig lard)
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To: Desdemona
Why? As a female, I find it to be very true. And very sad.

This article promotes lesbianism. To admire someone or notice their charisma is normal - but that's where the line is drawn.
48 posted on 08/13/2005 9:10:38 PM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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