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Boeing makes 'quiet' advances (Noise-reduction efforts pay off at remote airfield in Montana)
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER ^ | Thursday, August 11, 2005 | JAMES WALLACE (SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER AEROSPACE REPORTER)

Posted on 08/13/2005 2:43:03 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

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To: Central Scrutiniser

So why did Boeing not develop a twin engined 2 man cockpit version of the 727? I've always liked the 727 better than the 737. It seems that Boeing converted the 737 300-500 into the replacements for the 727. With the much bigger and heavier wing of the next generation 737, there really isn't a suitable Boeing replacement for the 737-500.


41 posted on 08/13/2005 10:15:44 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I've seen pictures of it but have never seen it in person.
42 posted on 08/13/2005 10:17:47 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Probably too much work, you'd have to rewire the whole damn cockpit, replace everything.

Boeing did come out with a few 767's with a 3 manned cockpit. I think they went to Air New Zealand, they were modded I believe.


43 posted on 08/13/2005 10:18:18 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Shouldn't that engine have a few more decals? Pennzoil, Champion, Holley, and maybe a Budweiser or Winston.


44 posted on 08/13/2005 10:18:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: COEXERJ145

Its still there, doesn't fly much, but when it does, its a sight!

Its N. of the Northernmost runway about halfway down.

I nonreved to SAN yesterday, never get used to that approach, hate that parking garage.


45 posted on 08/13/2005 10:19:59 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: COEXERJ145; Central Scrutiniser
I think the last 737-100 flying in the U.S. was actually the prototype 737 and it belonged to NASA.

That plane was used for lots of important research programs. It was used to test concepts for glass cockpit instrumentation that eventually was put in the 757 and 767. It tested a GPS based navigational system for automated landings, and it was used to test the use of cockpits that have no direct view of the outside to evaluate their use in future SST's. They actually built a second cockpit inside what would be the passenger section of the plane, and it only had video images of the outside.

46 posted on 08/13/2005 10:21:14 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Boeing did come out with a few 767's with a 3 manned cockpit. I think they went to Air New Zealand, they were modded I believe.

Now defunct Ansett Australia ended up with most of them.

47 posted on 08/13/2005 10:22:11 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Boeing did come out with a few 767's with a 3 manned cockpit. I think they went to Air New Zealand, they were modded I believe.

And where is Air New Zealand now? Weren't the unions responsible for that purchase?

48 posted on 08/13/2005 10:23:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser; COEXERJ145
You ever see the 720B that is at PHX?

I didn't think there wer any of those left. I thought all the remaining ones were bought by the USAF to upgrade KC-135A's to KC-135E's.

49 posted on 08/13/2005 10:26:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: COEXERJ145

You are right, I was in the right area of the world. I flew on Ansett a few times, great airline, I loved them. I did SYD-HKG, didn't fully grasp how long of a flight it really was!

They used to own a bit of AWA.


50 posted on 08/13/2005 10:28:01 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: Larry Lucido
Shouldn't that engine have a few more decals? Pennzoil, Champion, Holley, and maybe a Budweiser or Winston.

But then the plane wouldn't be able to leave the ground and would try to go around in counter-clockwise circles around the runways and taxiways.

51 posted on 08/13/2005 10:28:17 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: XR7
Where's the "propaganda"?

Should Boeing just give the huge Chinese market to Airbus?

52 posted on 08/14/2005 5:55:33 AM PDT by Jorge
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To: eggman
"I can vouch for that being a remote airfield. My wife is from Glasgow and we were up there for an airshow in the late 70's. Nothing but wheat fields and range land."

Well,,,,, I was told there was a pretty girl behind every tree in Glasgow, Montana. Problem was, there were no trees.........

Glasgow isn't very big now either with about 2000 or so.

When I left the base there were about fifty military people still on duty.

53 posted on 08/16/2005 5:42:00 PM PDT by Inge_CAV
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