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'The New Gay Teenager'
NARTH ^ | May 23 2005 | Frank York

Posted on 08/13/2005 10:25:42 PM PDT by scripter

[This article is key to understanding what children in public schools might be taught as normal and acceptable. Of course, we're already seeing some of it. If you're remotely interested in this topic you'll want to read the article in its entirety. ]

Gay Cornell University Professor Ritch Savin-Williams argues that teenagers are rejecting gender categories in their pursuit of satisfying sexual relationships. And, he's encouraged by the trend.

Reviewed by Frank York

Professor Rich Savin-Williams in The New Gay Teenager, presents the premise of his book in the first page of his Preface. He observes: "Gay people have historically too readily accepted the inevitability and desirability of divisions based on sexual categories. It's not that same-sex attractions are disappearing--indeed, they appear to be on the upswing as young people more freely share with each other their same-sex feelings. They're not embarrassed by gayness, don't consider it deviant, and see it all around them--on television, in movies, in songs, in cultural icons, among their friends."

Savin-Williams is encouraged by this trend and looks forward to the day when terms like "gay" become irrelevant in public discourse. He notes that more and more teens are becoming pan-sexual in their outlook--and the line between what was once considered "gay" and "straight" is becoming blurred.

The "New Gay Teenager" will be a person who can be attracted to both girls and boys and have sexual relationships with both sexes without guilt. The "New Gay Teenager," then is basically a pansexual or bisexual who rejects all gender categories.

Savin-Williams asks what has resulted in this "dramatic generational shift" between the old generation of gays who maintained that sexual orientation is fixed and unchangeable versus the new teen who views gender categories as unimportant? "Probably the media," says Savin-Williams. He notes: "The success of the entertainment industry in presenting and hence normalizing same-sex desire has had an incalculable impact on the ability of adolescents to understand their own emerging sexual desires." (p. 18).

Another change agent, says the professor is the public school system. He credits Los Angeles Public School teacher Virginia Uribe and her Project 10 program as the pioneer of this effort to normalize homosexuality among teens. The Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), says Savin-Williams is following in Uribe's footsteps. He notes that GLSEN-sponsored Gay Straight Alliance clubs have proliferated on high school campuses.

Gay-Affirming Researchers Invented 'The Gay Teen'
Professor Savin-Williams admits in Chapter 2 that gay or pro-gay researchers "invented" the gay teen. "Gay adolescence came to be what we researchers wanted it to be--what we were," says the author. (p. 23). He observes: "... who researchers say is gay and who they chose to provide data determine the outcome" of the research findings.

He criticizes many of the early studies done on gay teenagers because of the problems involved in correctly defining who is gay and who isn't. "Most biological and social scientists assume a categorical sexual orientation, allowing them to contrast heterosexuals with homosexuals. The category of bisexual is often ignored altogether or folded into the gay group. Bisexuals are said to be confused, in a state of transition, not yet having decided just what they are." (p. 30).

Savin-Williams says researchers define sexual identity in a limited fashion and force teens to choose between limited options. "What about young people who identify themselves using a sexual label not provided, such as two-spirit, polysexual, or ambisexual? What about those who span multiple identities, the bi-lesbian or the gay-curious heterosexual?" asks the author. (p. 35)

Determining who's gay and who isn't, is a difficult task, says the professor. It depends on how researchers define the population: by attraction, behavior, or identity.

Savin-Williams presents the results of his own study of same-sex teenagers and draws the following conclusions:

Research Incorrectly But Purposefully Focused On Troubled Gay Teens
Savin-Williams believes that the early studies of gay teens focused on the psychological problems faced by same-sex identified youth. "Being gay, young, and troubled had thus been intrinsically, even purposefully linked. The linkage made grant proposals and justifications for increased educational and mental-health services an easier sell," said the author.

The professor observes that much of the research published during the 70s and 80s was not peer reviewed. In addition, "... all early gay-youth investigations were based on flawed research designs and included small or biased samples of those who sought the services of mental-health or social-support agencies. In defense of these earlier researchers, they have been so pleased to have access to any gay teens that any slippage in standards for methodological rigor seemed relatively inconsequential ..." (p. 57)

Savin-Williams says the "investigators who published these negative findings knew what they were doing. They were aware of their sample limitations, that they had recruited those disproportionately at risk for negative health outcomes and risk behaviors. Yet few attempted to correct this portrait of the suffering gay adolescent." (p. 68) Their goal was to follow the money in getting grants to conduct their research.

Savin-Williams urges researchers to stop focusing on the suffering gay teen and begin promoting the view that gay teens are healthy and fully functioning individuals. He says: "Same-sex attracted teenagers are, in general, indistinguishable from other teens neurologically, anatomically, and chemically." (p. 85)

Early Same-Sex Attractions: A Great Delight
In his interviews with gay-identified teens, Savin-Williams says that "early same-sex attractions for many teenagers are sources of great delight, fond remembrance, and lifetime reverberations; they may even be these individuals' most tender and pleasurable childhood memories." (p. 131)

In Chapter 7, "First Sex," Savin-Williams introduces the subject of gay childhood sexual experiences by noting that Alfred Kinsey and his associates were the first to systematically explore the "onset and nature of sexuality during childhood." (p. 133)

Kinsey argued that humans are naturally sexual and orgasmic throughout childhood and their reluctance to engage in gay sex is often attributable to repressive socialization that doesn't tolerate such behaviors.

"Kinsey found little evidence for the traditional view of childhood's being a time of sexual latency or arrest in sexual development," says Savin-Williams. (p. 134)

Savin-Williams observes: "Regardless of gender of person and partner, if an early sexual contact is not abusive or coercive, then it likely has a positive impact on adolescent and adult sexual arousal, pleasure, satisfaction, and acceptance of various sexual behaviors for self and others. Given the degree of sex negativity in U.S. culture, not all view these seemingly positive results as desirable outcomes. As for general social adjustment, sex among children is seldom associated with either developmental benefits or liabilities. " (p. 135)

An Apologist For Pedophilia?
Throughout Savin-Williams' book, he quotes favorably from Dr. Theo Sandfort's various research on gay males. Sandfort's background, however, is ignored.

Dr. Sandfort is a research scientist on HIV and Associate Clinical Professor of Clinical Sociomedical Sciences at Columbia University. Prior to going to Columbia, Sandfort headed up the Interfaculty Department of Lesbian and Gay Studies at Utrecht University, the Netherlands. He is former President of the Dutch Society of Sexology.

Dr. Sandfort is also on the editorial board of the Dutch pedophile journal, PAIDIKA, and has written favorably on adult/child sex in the past. Sandfort was co-author of "Man-Boy Relationships: Different Concepts for a Diversity of Phenomena," for the special issue of the Journal of Homosexuality, "Male Intergenerational Intimacy," published in 1990.

Joseph Nicolosi and Dale O'Leary published an article on pedophilia and referenced Dr. Sandfort's pro-pedophile research in: "On the Pedophilia Issue: What The APA Should Have Known."

Savin-Williams favorable use of Dr. Sandfort--without providing background on his his involvement in the pedophile movement--is evidence of the propagandist nature of his writings. Savin-Williams is perfectly comfortable with gay children and teens having sex with each other. His position on adult/child sex is not directly stated but his use of a PAIDIKA board member as a cited resource seems to imply approval.

Sexual Identity Formation
Professor Savin-Williams observes that it is difficult to tell how many teens self-identify as gay because researchers use so many different methods for assessing sexual identity. Among them are: They admit to themselves that they're gay; they consider themselves gay; they describe themselves as gay; they realize they're gay; they have an identity of being gay; they label themselves as gay; and they know they're really gay.

He notes that this current generation of teens label themselves at a much earlier age than in the past. It has decreased by five years among males and more among females--from ages 21 down to 16. A second trend is that sex differences in the age of self-identification have largely disappeared.

The author notes several problems with studies purporting to show the age at which teens identify as gays. One is that researchers confuse sexual identity with sexual orientation, "calling it one thing and measuring the other." (p. 165) Another problem is that many samples are unrepresentative.

He says that female teens are now more likely to use labels other than gay to describe their sexual feelings. "Indeed, only a minority of same-sex-attracted women say they are lesbian. Bisexual is more often preferred," said Savin-Williams. (p. 168). Females also refer to themselves as ambisexual; bi-queer; fluid bisexual; heterosexual-identified bisexual; pan-sexual; polyfide; and more.

Bisexuality is another identity that is resistant to categorization into heterosexual or gay identities. According to current literature, says the author, bisexuals are considered to be in transition to heterosexuality or homosexuality. He notes that many teens are also rejecting the bisexual term as well. They see it as too limiting.

Rejecting Deficit Models Of Gay Teens
Savin-Williams wants researchers to reject the deficit/troubled teen model when they study gay teenagers. "It is not too late for social scientists to reclaim the study of gay adolescence and assert their place as the proper and rightful scholars for developing knowledge about same-sex attracted adolescents. The first step is for them to apply appropriate levels of methodological rigor and sophistication in their investigations. The second is to appreciate the diversity of same-sex attractions and individuals." (p. 186)

Savin-Williams also urges scholars to "break traditional barriers that prohibit a forthright, positive discussion about sexuality with adolescents. (p. 190)

He says the message that scholars should send is that gay teens are diverse and can develop into resilient, coping, healthy adults. "We can deliver this message without ignoring those who are suffering, sometimes to the point of ending their lives. ... It is this message that we need to articulate loudly and clearly, and to support in the pages of our professional journals and in the media. Perhaps then teenagers--and others as well--can hear it and believe it." (p. 193)

Savin-Williams concludes his polemic in favor of unrestrained sexual activity for gay identified teenagers by stating: "It is my fervent hope that what is being achieved in the real world [in the entertainment industry] can be achieved in scholarship. I hope to see the elimination of same-sex sexuality as a defining characteristic of adolescents in my lifetime. If it can be relegated to insignificance, the lives of millions of teens will be dramatically improved." (p. 223)

TOPICS: Culture/Society
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To: scripter


"Gay Cornell University Professor Ritch Savin-Williams argues that teenagers are rejecting gender categories in their pursuit of satisfying sexual relationships. And, he's encouraged by the trend."

The problem is the growing influence of NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association. One of their objectives is the repeal of age of consent laws.

NAMBLA Home Page:

Here is a link to an ACLU page, where they are defending the “rights” of two murderers, both gay, of a 10 year old boy. One was possession of NAMBLA material:

Here are two links that discuss NAMBLA and pedophilia:\

Here is a news story about 7 NAMBA members that got busted in a sex sting. Two were teachers. They were planning a trip to Mexico to have sex with boys as young as 8:,2933,147645,00.html

Here is a story where NAMBLA was busted for illegally using a non-profit organization as a front to promote its goals:

Information about NAMBLA and related issues including Child Sex Trade:

Organized Child Molesters:

They've also been profiled on America's Most Wanted.

41 posted on 02/11/2006 3:55:58 PM PST by George - the Other (400,000 bodies in Saddam's Mass Graves, and counting ...)
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To: nmh
Here's another list of children's books that demonstrates the radical homosexuals are trying to desensitize young children.

Title Author Age Group

123 A Family Counting Book Bobbie Combs, Danamarie Hosler
ABC A Family Alphabet Book Bobbie Combs, Desiree Keane
All Families are Different Sol Gordon, Vivien Cohen
Daddy's Roommate Michael Willhoite
Felicia's Favorite Story Leslea Newman, Adriana Romo
Duke Who Outlawed Jelly Beans Johnny Valentine, Lynette Schmidt
Heather Has Two Mommies Leslea Newman, Diana Souza
How My Family Came to Be: Daddy, Papa and Me Andrew R. Aldrich, Mike Motz
Jack & Jim Kitty Crowther
Jenny Lives With Eric and Martin Susanne Bosche, Andreas Hansen
King & King Linda De Haan, Stern Nijland
King & King & Family Linda De Haan, Stern Nijland
Molly's Family Nancy Garden, Sharon Wooding
My Two Uncles Judith Vigna
Oliver Button Is a Sissy Tomie De Paola
The Daddy Machine Johnny Valentine, Lynette Schmidt
The Family Book Todd Parr
The Sissy Duckling Harvey Fierstein, Henry Cole
Who's in a Family Robert Skutch, Laura Nienhaus

42 posted on 02/11/2006 4:21:28 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

I gave a few of them reviews of my own. I'm curious if Amazon will allow a different "opinion" to be listed. Or do they require 5 star reviews?

43 posted on 02/11/2006 6:04:52 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Antioch; Behind Liberal Lines

City of Evil Bump!

44 posted on 02/11/2006 8:32:36 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: scripter; governsleastgovernsbest; bentfeather; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; ...
Gay Cornell University Professor Ritch Savin-Williams argues that teenagers are rejecting gender categories in their pursuit of satisfying sexual relationships. And, he's encouraged by the trend.

Ithaca is the City of Evil.

45 posted on 02/11/2006 10:45:36 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: scripter

Read later.

46 posted on 02/11/2006 10:54:28 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Thanks for the ping. The Lehigh University Alumni Association has decided to form a Gay and Lesbian Lehigh Alumni Council. This made me go back and research articles in the school newspaper. It turns out the the administration in an effort to promote "diversity" has been openly supporting this deviant lifestyle for the past five years.

Another one bites the dust.
47 posted on 02/12/2006 4:59:56 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush Code Pink, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the womyn)
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To: scripter
Professor Ritch Savin-Williams

The guy's parents couldn't spell his first name and he can't figure out what his last name should be. No wonder he can't figure out what sex is.

48 posted on 02/12/2006 5:05:18 AM PST by CPOSharky (They don't even like each other.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I'm beginning to think that "nuke them from orbit" quote needs to be dusted off and re-examined.

It makes more and more sense.

49 posted on 02/12/2006 5:24:37 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: CPOSharky
actually his "life partner" must be a WASP goy.......and he so loves his wonderful full life with his "life partner" that he took said WASP goy's last name hyphenated so now maybe he will look better in Filson or Barbour...that is my guess


Anyone whose identity is wrapped up in the abnormal fecal orifice they desire for sex should be relegated to the perversion they are...nothing more.
50 posted on 02/12/2006 5:40:36 AM PST by wardaddy (Guns, God, Abortion is Murder, Private Property, Borders,My Culture, Break Islam....any questions)
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To: scripter

My reviews are there for the moment:

Some of my reviews made it! Obviously I didn't praise this trash. Feel free to add a review of your own.

Please vote for me!

51 posted on 02/12/2006 6:31:35 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: scripter
The Peoples DemocRATic Republic of Ithaca SODOMY!!!
52 posted on 02/12/2006 7:04:27 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: scripter

But, this author is actually hurting the homosexual lobbiests case, saying that people are NOT actually "born that way", as they always tell us.

He actually makes our case, that sexuality is a MORAL issue. Society has an obligation to define for it's self, what morals that society wishes to accept.

53 posted on 02/12/2006 11:32:30 AM PST by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: scripter
I think that if teenagers get into homosexual sex, it's because of the same reason that teens of my generation got into sex at all; to rebel against our parents. Many of my generation think nothing of sleeping around nowadays, so the kids can't shock them with that. The kids have to think of something that is still, for the most part, taboo. So they get into homosexuality, or bi-sexuality, which means they have a larger pool of sexual partners, and they don't much care who it is. Unfortunately, it's difficult to pull back from the 'lifestyle' once you get too far into it, and with bisexuality, it just means you double the danger of AIDS or some really nasty STD.

The people who are pushing early sexual activity on the teenagers NEVER talk about how psychologically damaging it is, whether heterosexual or homosexual.

54 posted on 02/12/2006 11:56:52 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Antioch

Lord, this guy is right out of Central Casting - the ugly, wierd looking pervert.

55 posted on 02/12/2006 1:18:48 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: wardaddy

Someone on Free Republic said it best some time ago. The love that dare not speak its name won't keep its mouth shut now.

56 posted on 02/12/2006 1:22:12 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Antioch
Gay Cornell University Professor Ritch Savin-Williams argues that teenagers are rejecting gender categories in their pursuit of satisfying sexual relationships.

With Gay Cornell University Professors.

And, he's encouraged by the trend.

No doubt he is...

57 posted on 02/12/2006 1:25:26 PM PST by steveo (No Anchovies? You've got the wrong man, I spell my name steveo...)
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To: scripter

I can give a quicker translation of the article: "Oh BOY! More targets for ME!" The professor wants to confuse young people, making them more receptive to his homosexual advances.

58 posted on 02/12/2006 1:33:26 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: scripter

Professor Rich Savin-Williams is a Whacko!

59 posted on 05/11/2006 4:33:59 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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