Skip to comments.Able Danger -- now they tell us
Posted on 08/14/2005 1:44:29 AM PDT by smoothsailing
Jack Kelly: Able Danger -- now they tell us
The 9/11 commission report, once much lauded, now has an awfully big hole
Sunday, August 14, 2005
The report of the 9/11 commission, once a best seller and hailed by the news media as the definitive word on the subject, must now be moved to the fiction shelves.
The commission concluded, you'll recall, that the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon couldn't have been prevented, and that if there was negligence, it was as much the fault of the Bush administration (for moving slowly on the recommendations of Clinton counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke) as of the Clinton administration.
Able Danger has changed all of that.
Able Danger was a military intelligence unit set up by Special Operations Command in 1999. A year before the 9/11 attacks, Able Danger identified hijack leader Mohamed Atta and the other members of his cell. But Clinton administration officials stopped them -- three times -- from sharing this information with the FBI.
The problem was the order Clinton Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick made forbidding intelligence operatives from sharing information with criminal investigators. (Gorelick later served as a 9/11 commission member.)
"They were stopped because the lawyers at that time in 2000 told them Mohamed Atta had a green card" -- he didn't -- "and they could not go after someone with a green card," said Rep. Curt Weldon, the Pennsylvania Republican who brought the existence of Able Danger to light.
The military spooks knew only that Atta and his confederates had links to al-Qaida. They hadn't unearthed their mission. But if the FBI had kept tabs on them (a big if, given the nature of the FBI at the time), 9/11 almost certainly could have..
(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...
This is nuts.
At least ONE paper GETS IT, and is starting to lay blame where it belongs.
To the exten this has been covered by the MSM, they are still trying to pin it on Bush.
To ALL: Be sure you reat the ENTIRE article. It lays it all out very clearly.
Wonders never cease! It's Clinton's fault.
Funny, Drudge ignores the story, as if it is not news. He's beating himself up over this, I'm sure.
This writer devastates Clinton,Gorelick,and the dems!
WOO-HOO! He is pinning the tale on the donkey!
Jack Kelly is always good for stuff like this,but it never ceases to amaze me that the PG keeps him around,given their ingrained biases.
Its time to stop pussyfooting and take some people down.
Fox news this am: dems are saying they were only told once about this and besides, the source wasn't 'credible'. The 'source' was a much decorated military man who is still on active duty. (The rats are very freaking, no wonder they're egging Cindy Sheehan on...anything to deflect attention from this.)
Build their gallows high
It is amazing.......... PPG - Unfair and Unbalanced.
What's curious is that the 9/11 commissioners were all media hounds. They were all over the place..any chance, any time, anywhere....and even self-extended their commission. NOw, since this has come out...well, you can't find hide nor hair of one..anywheres..Kean is MIA..and Gorelick and BenVeniste..they must be in the Witness Protection program...this alone leads me to suspect there is a LOT of there, there..
This needs a special prosecutor.
Hear no Atta, see no Atta, speak no Atta.
The moral of this story is that PC kills.
What a fantastic article. The reporter completely "gets it".
"What may be a bigger scandal is that the staff of the 9/11 commission knew of Able Danger and what it had found, but made no mention of it in its report. This is as if the commission which investigated the attack on Pearl Harbor had written its final report without mentioning the Japanese."
The thing I am trying to reference is if the fellow, Felzenberg, mentioned in the article above, as quoted here was the investigator that talked to those still asserting this was the unit's warning:
After having first denied that staff had been briefed on Able Danger, commission spokesman Al Felzenberg said no reference was made to it in the final report because "it was not consistent with what the commission knew about Atta's whereabouts before the attacks," the AP reported.There was a thread claiming that the 9/11 commission's investigative staff member took no transcript or recording of the questioning, but, instead took minimalist notes.
Was that this guy Felzenberg that is saying now, "Nothing to see here, move along."
If so, it is working because the Fox commentator on Intell issues is saying that source protection concerns, instead of the green card correctness ruling of Gorelick's minions mentioned in the article, all without even covering the green card issue itself.
Good to hear from a paper in the western part of the state. If there is going to be a groundswell of public support for real answers to this mess from the American Public, the local papers are going to HAVE to ask the same questions that Freepers have been discussing the last several days. There is still a large segment of the population that does not read the Internet or watch Fox News. Note that the Inquirer here in Philly hasn't said anything. I wonder what the papers in Harrisburg are saying and I wonder what Tom Ridge thinks about all of this? I'd also like to hear from Santorum and Spector on what they think.
Better late than never...we still have time before Sandy Berger's sentencing to have him take a lie detector test and ask home a) has he ever heard of Able Danger and b) Did any of the documents that he lifted have anything to do with Able Danger???? I find it interesting that the 911 commission research done in the last 48 hours (mighty quick look, if you ask me) say that can't produce any documented proof.
Weldon is saying that there are "15 boxes" of information that the commission was not made aware of on Able Danger. Who were the staffers that 'vetted' what information got to the Commission? What else might there be?
FOXNews has given it some, but for the implications it brings up, it's sadly lacking.
Meanwhile... the MSM censors are hard at work making sure what little they will eventually report is vague and brief. They realize Congress is on vacation and that there's always Cindy Sheehan to fill in any unused time-slots.
PREDICTION: You will NOT see ANY in-depth discussion of Able Danger on Meet the Press, This Week or Face the Nation.
However... you will see for the millionth time... John McCain & Joe Biden
I get 63 returns for that name, on Free Republic alone:
Didn't Michael Moore cover this in Fahrenheit 911 ? [joking, of course]
You are so right! As far as I am concerned, these pictures need to be plastered all over the TV and newspapers every day! How quickly some people forget the about the horror of that day. I have not forgot and I will never forget. Your pictures have been in my mind ever since 9/11. That the liberals can not appreciate the horror that raced through the minds of those poor soles on that day, and would rather spew their anti-Bush garbage like it never even happened is disgusting.
soles = souls ..........sorry, but I was a little upset while typing.
-...staff had been briefed on Able Danger in October 2003 and again in July 2004...It was in October 2003 that Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger stole...-
Can it get any clearer than that, folks? *sigh* One thing I like about Bush is that he doesn't insult or dwell on former presidents' behavior. I think we can count on him to do the same here. If information is found, I think it'll be used by Repubs to defeat Hitlery in '08, but don't count on anything happening to Slick.
Just saw MSNBC, now the MSM is trying to discredit the story
I made the mistake of listening to MSNBC this morning - they're already spinning Weldon's charges as "undocumented" and "unsubstantiated" etc. [VOMIT SOUND]
I guess there's something to be said for the fact that they can no longer ignore the story...
The Jersey widows should redirect their invective and to the clinton administration which caused the deaths of their husbands.
However, knowing the Agenda and the Players in the US media, I'm not holding my breath.
Thanks for posting.
The big sales job now is to make sure we think all that happened was that some things got overlooked, somehow just slipped through the cracks.
But the Clinton administration specifically and actively HELPED these guys and PROTECTED them.
A year before the 9/11 attacks, Able Danger identified hijack leader Mohamed Atta and the other members of his cell. But Clinton administration officials stopped them -- three times -- from sharing this information with the FBI.
Now the Commission is lying about being told, getting caught lying, changing their lies... Also they first lied that this protection was done because Atta had a green card, but that was weak enough to draw fire so they changed that to a new lie about why they had to protect Atta and his boys.
This reminds me of the three little Aruban creeps who lied and were proven to be lying so they changed to new lies and then lied about why they lied to start with.
Yes, the 24/7 coverage of Aruba is, along with the crackpot mutha's triumph in the sun at Crawford, a media distraction from real earth shaking historic news.
Thomas H. Kean
Fred F. Fielding
Jamie S. Gorelick
Lee H. Hamilton
John F. Lehman
Timothy J. Roemer
James R. Thompson
Philip Zelikow, Executive Director
Christopher A Kojm, Deputy Executive Director
Daniel Marcus, General Counsel
Joanne M. Accolla
Scott H. Allan, Jr.
John A. Azzarello
Ann M. Bennett
Mark S. Bittinger
Antwion M. Blount
Geoffrey Scott Brown
Samuel M.W. Caspersett
Melissa A. Coffey
Marco A. Cordero
George W. Delgrosso
Gerald L. Dillingham
Thomas E. Dowling
Steven M. Dunne
Thomas R. Eldridge
John J. Farmer, Jr.
Alvin S. Felzenberg
Larry M. Fenner
T. Graham Giusti
Nicole Marie Grandriomo
Douglas N. Greenburg
Barbara A. Grewe
Elinore Flynn Hartz
Leonard R. Hawley
I. Christine Healey
Walter T. Hemplel II
C. Michael Hurley
Dana J. Hyde
John W. Ivicic
Michael N. Jacobson
Hunter W. Jamerson
bonnie D. Jenkins
Reginald F. Johnson
R. William Johnstone
Stephanie I. Kaplan
Miles I. Kara, Sr.
Janice I. Kephart
Gordon Nathaniel Lederman
Daniel J. Leopold
Sarah Webb Linden
Douglas J. MacEachin
Ernest R. May
Charles M. Pereira
Lloyd D. Salvetti
Kevin J. Scheid
Tracy J. Shycoff
Dietrich I. Snell
Jonathan DeWees Stull
Lisa Marie Sullivan
Quinn John Tamm, Jr.
Catharine S. Taylor
Emily Landis Walker
Serena B. Wille
Google News still has nothing on this except the usual VRWC rags - and other "nut-job" outlets. I wish this article was front and center of every household's major breadwinner in "flyover" country as he leans down to look at the Sunday paper. There just might be some pitchforks at the doors of congress... But, alas, I can only dream.
It will be interesting to see the reaction to this by the administration.
like so much of what the MSM hails. Why? Because it's in the advertising business. Veracity is strictly coincidental and, as this demonstrates, often unwanted.
In a way, this is reassuring. US Intelligence didn't drop the ball. It was kicked out of their hands at gunpoint. Only a top level government official could prevent us from defending ourselves.
The clinton legacy -- bringing you back into the dark ages.
The government was quick to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Wilson-Plame-CIA affair. Where is the investigation to determine who's at fault here? More than three thousand Americans are dead because government officials dropped the ball.
So, they really thought this guy was a threat, but they put it all in a filing cabinet and forgot about it because...they were told he had a green card? And they accepted this? In the face of evidence of a threat to the citizens of the US, they just dropped it? Hell--freaking--OOO!
Like one guy couldn't call up is golf buddy at FBI and say, "hey, I've got a live one for you?"