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Able Danger -- now they tell us
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 08/14/05 | Jack Kelly OP/ED

Posted on 08/14/2005 1:44:29 AM PDT by smoothsailing

Jack Kelly: Able Danger -- now they tell us

The 9/11 commission report, once much lauded, now has an awfully big hole

Sunday, August 14, 2005

The report of the 9/11 commission, once a best seller and hailed by the news media as the definitive word on the subject, must now be moved to the fiction shelves.      

 

  The commission concluded, you'll recall, that the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon couldn't have been prevented, and that if there was negligence, it was as much the fault of the Bush administration (for moving slowly on the recommendations of Clinton counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke) as of the Clinton administration.

Able Danger has changed all of that.

Able Danger was a military intelligence unit set up by Special Operations Command in 1999. A year before the 9/11 attacks, Able Danger identified hijack leader Mohamed Atta and the other members of his cell. But Clinton administration officials stopped them -- three times -- from sharing this information with the FBI.

The problem was the order Clinton Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick made forbidding intelligence operatives from sharing information with criminal investigators. (Gorelick later served as a 9/11 commission member.)

"They were stopped because the lawyers at that time in 2000 told them Mohamed Atta had a green card" -- he didn't -- "and they could not go after someone with a green card," said Rep. Curt Weldon, the Pennsylvania Republican who brought the existence of Able Danger to light.

The military spooks knew only that Atta and his confederates had links to al-Qaida. They hadn't unearthed their mission. But if the FBI had kept tabs on them (a big if, given the nature of the FBI at the time), 9/11 almost certainly could have..

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; abledanger; atta; jackkelly; weldon
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To: ken5050

This needs a special prosecutor.


21 posted on 08/14/2005 3:49:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: smoothsailing; Just mythoughts
Phrase courtesy of Freeper "Justmythoughts"

Hear no Atta, see no Atta, speak no Atta.


22 posted on 08/14/2005 3:55:42 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: smoothsailing
"What may be a bigger scandal is that the staff of the 9/11 commission knew of Able Danger and what it had found, but made no mention of it in its report. This is as if the commission which investigated the attack on Pearl Harbor had written its final report without mentioning the Japanese."


23 posted on 08/14/2005 3:59:39 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: smoothsailing

The moral of this story is that PC kills.


24 posted on 08/14/2005 4:05:10 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Pro-Bush
He actually linked the story days ago. Every other news source is catching up now.
25 posted on 08/14/2005 4:13:16 AM PDT by edpc
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To: smoothsailing
This settles it.

Agents of the Clinton Administration KNEW ABOUT 9/11 and DID NOTHING!

So this didn't need to happen?!?

Yet agents of the Clinton administration let it?!?!?


26 posted on 08/14/2005 4:14:04 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: smoothsailing

What a fantastic article. The reporter completely "gets it".

"What may be a bigger scandal is that the staff of the 9/11 commission knew of Able Danger and what it had found, but made no mention of it in its report. This is as if the commission which investigated the attack on Pearl Harbor had written its final report without mentioning the Japanese."


27 posted on 08/14/2005 4:33:50 AM PDT by Peach
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To: backhoe
Your collection of links at post #17 is a MUST read for those that are interested in this mess.

The thing I am trying to reference is if the fellow, Felzenberg, mentioned in the article above, as quoted here was the investigator that talked to those still asserting this was the unit's warning:

After having first denied that staff had been briefed on Able Danger, commission spokesman Al Felzenberg said no reference was made to it in the final report because "it was not consistent with what the commission knew about Atta's whereabouts before the attacks," the AP reported.

There was a thread claiming that the 9/11 commission's investigative staff member took no transcript or recording of the questioning, but, instead took minimalist notes.

Was that this guy Felzenberg that is saying now, "Nothing to see here, move along."

If so, it is working because the Fox commentator on Intell issues is saying that source protection concerns, instead of the green card correctness ruling of Gorelick's minions mentioned in the article, all without even covering the green card issue itself.

28 posted on 08/14/2005 4:34:13 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: smoothsailing

Good to hear from a paper in the western part of the state. If there is going to be a groundswell of public support for real answers to this mess from the American Public, the local papers are going to HAVE to ask the same questions that Freepers have been discussing the last several days. There is still a large segment of the population that does not read the Internet or watch Fox News. Note that the Inquirer here in Philly hasn't said anything. I wonder what the papers in Harrisburg are saying and I wonder what Tom Ridge thinks about all of this? I'd also like to hear from Santorum and Spector on what they think.

Better late than never...we still have time before Sandy Berger's sentencing to have him take a lie detector test and ask home a) has he ever heard of Able Danger and b) Did any of the documents that he lifted have anything to do with Able Danger???? I find it interesting that the 911 commission research done in the last 48 hours (mighty quick look, if you ask me) say that can't produce any documented proof.

Weldon is saying that there are "15 boxes" of information that the commission was not made aware of on Able Danger. Who were the staffers that 'vetted' what information got to the Commission? What else might there be?


29 posted on 08/14/2005 4:40:22 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: SkyPilot
Thanks.

Sadly, your photos tell the horrific story. Hillry surely was one confident itch standing upon the Senate floor holding that paper, screeching accusations at President Bush.

Makes sense now the plan was already underway as she knew darn well who allowed these to have entry and by design were ignored. We are not dealing with sane civilized people. They are no better than the terrorists IMO.
30 posted on 08/14/2005 4:41:00 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: konaice
This is NOT being given real coverage anywhere.

FOXNews has given it some, but for the implications it brings up, it's sadly lacking.

Meanwhile... the MSM censors are hard at work making sure what little they will eventually report is vague and brief. They realize Congress is on vacation and that there's always Cindy Sheehan to fill in any unused time-slots.

PREDICTION: You will NOT see ANY in-depth discussion of Able Danger on Meet the Press, This Week or Face the Nation.

However... you will see for the millionth time... John McCain & Joe Biden

31 posted on 08/14/2005 4:53:57 AM PDT by johnny7 (“I like ya, Lloyd. I always liked ya. You were always the best of 'em.”)
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To: KC Burke

I get 63 returns for that name, on Free Republic alone:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?_adv_prop=web&x=op&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2&va_vt=any&vp=Al+Felzenberg&vp_vt=any&vo_vt=any&ve_vt=any&vd=all&vst=on&vs=freerepublic.com&vf=all&vm=i&fl=0&n=100


32 posted on 08/14/2005 4:54:13 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: smoothsailing

Didn't Michael Moore cover this in Fahrenheit 911 ? [joking, of course]


33 posted on 08/14/2005 5:00:25 AM PDT by The Raven (They think the Constituion is un-constitutional)
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To: Caipirabob

You are so right! As far as I am concerned, these pictures need to be plastered all over the TV and newspapers every day! How quickly some people forget the about the horror of that day. I have not forgot and I will never forget. Your pictures have been in my mind ever since 9/11. That the liberals can not appreciate the horror that raced through the minds of those poor soles on that day, and would rather spew their anti-Bush garbage like it never even happened is disgusting.


34 posted on 08/14/2005 5:10:45 AM PDT by recoveringlurker
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To: recoveringlurker

soles = souls ..........sorry, but I was a little upset while typing.


35 posted on 08/14/2005 5:18:24 AM PDT by recoveringlurker
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To: smoothsailing

BTTT


36 posted on 08/14/2005 5:25:20 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: smoothsailing

-...staff had been briefed on Able Danger in October 2003 and again in July 2004...It was in October 2003 that Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger stole...-

Can it get any clearer than that, folks? *sigh* One thing I like about Bush is that he doesn't insult or dwell on former presidents' behavior. I think we can count on him to do the same here. If information is found, I think it'll be used by Repubs to defeat Hitlery in '08, but don't count on anything happening to Slick.


37 posted on 08/14/2005 5:40:53 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: konaice

Just saw MSNBC, now the MSM is trying to discredit the story


38 posted on 08/14/2005 5:41:41 AM PDT by atlanta67
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To: smoothsailing
Arghhhh!

I made the mistake of listening to MSNBC this morning - they're already spinning Weldon's charges as "undocumented" and "unsubstantiated" etc. [VOMIT SOUND]

I guess there's something to be said for the fact that they can no longer ignore the story...

39 posted on 08/14/2005 5:43:17 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Just mythoughts

The Jersey widows should redirect their invective and to the clinton administration which caused the deaths of their husbands.


40 posted on 08/14/2005 5:43:49 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Life is a journey, not a destination.)
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