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Jet set for Reagan library event (F-14 will be exhibited)
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 8/14/05 | Eric Leach

Posted on 08/14/2005 12:13:48 PM PDT by Mark

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KOOL. Gotta go.
1 posted on 08/14/2005 12:13:48 PM PDT by Mark
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To: F14 Pilot

Pong for you


2 posted on 08/14/2005 12:15:47 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Mark


Absolutely fitting.


3 posted on 08/14/2005 12:16:18 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: Mark
Best President Ever. (to date)

Best Fighter Aircraft Ever. (to date)

Seems logical to me.
4 posted on 08/14/2005 12:17:35 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Mark

I love the Tomcat and Reagan was an excellent President. Maybe someday when Bush 41 passes away, his library will erect a display of the dive bomber he flew in the Pacific.


5 posted on 08/14/2005 12:24:38 PM PDT by minerboy
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To: Mark

Too bad I have to miss this. I just love the Reagan Library...I have spent many days there. Hope to get down that way this fall to see the 707.


6 posted on 08/14/2005 12:29:54 PM PDT by sangoo
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To: Mark

TOP GUN!

7 posted on 08/14/2005 12:33:27 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (Make somebody happy. Mind your own business.)
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To: Mark; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail not by posting to this thread.

8 posted on 08/14/2005 12:33:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Mark
I hope they paint it in these colors...

After all, we know what THESE bad boys did in 1981...:)

9 posted on 08/14/2005 12:35:55 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Mark; Pukin Dog

Does PukinDog know about this...:)


10 posted on 08/14/2005 12:37:07 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel

He posted #4.


11 posted on 08/14/2005 12:38:44 PM PDT by Mark (Proven scientific experiment: The NY Times flushes easily down the standard toilet.)
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To: rlmorel

Hey pal don't you forget 1989 too, every sailor was thankful when this big cat was out on the prowl. "Tomcats supplying the world with spare MIG parts since 1981!"


12 posted on 08/14/2005 12:39:02 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Mark
The F-14 will be trucked from Point Mugu to the Reagan Library overnight to avoid problems with traffic

Well, duh. Why don't they just fly it in, and avoid traffic alltogether?

Sometimes I don't think people think...

Pretty cool having an F-14 at your peace park, though..

13 posted on 08/14/2005 12:42:29 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (When the disbeliever sees this, he will say, 'How nice if I was also turned into sand.')
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To: Trueblackman

Grumman F-14 Tomcat in combat

Vietnam war 1974-1975

The Tomcat was in service just in time to see the closing stages of the Vietnam war in 1975. It flew top cover during operation Frequent Wind, the evacuation of US personnel from Saigon in April of 1975, just before that city fell to the north. The North Vietnamese Air Force did not interfere with the operation, but one Tomcat was slightly damaged by anti-aircraft fire.

Libya, Gulf of Sidra August 1981

On August 19th, two Libyan Sukhoi Su-22 Fitter-J fighters were shot down by a pair of VF-41 Tomcats after one of the Fitters fired a missile at the American fighters. Both kills were with the AIM-9L Sidewinder.

Urgent Fury October 1983

The invasion of Grenada, TARPS (Reconnaissance Pod) equipped F-14's provided intelligence on troop movements for invading Marines and Army Rangers.

Hijacking Italian cruise ship Achille Laura: October 19th 1985

The Hijackers had found refuge in Egypt, where arrangements had been made to fly them to sanctuary Libya aboard an Egypt Air Boeing 737. Seven Tomcats from VF-74 and VF-104 from the USS Saratoga (CV-60) intercepted the airliner and forced it to land at Sigonella in Italy.

Gulf of Sidra March 24-26th 1986

Numerous strikes were carried out by navy carrier based aircraft against Libyan targets, with Tomcats flying top cover, keeping Libyan fighters at bay and dodging Sam's

Operation El Dorado Canyon: April 14th 1986

USAF General Dynamics F-111's attacking Tripoli (Libya) while navy strike aircraft went after Benghazi. The later raid was top-covered by F-14's.

Mediterranean January 4th 1989

Two F-14A's (159437 and 159610) from VF-32 flying of the John F. Kennedy (CV-67) shot down a pair of Libyan MiG-23 Floggers.

Persian Gulf 1988-1989

There were some Sidewinders fired between US navy Tomcats and Iranian F-4 Phantoms during the oil tanker escort operations in the Persian Gulf, these launches were all well out of parameters, and scored no kills.

Desert Storm 17 January - 28 February 1991

Tomcats flew mostly CAP operations in protection of the fleets carriers and in the escort of strike packages. The Tomcats are credited with only one kill. A Mil Mi-8 Hip helicopter was shot down with an AIM-9 Sidewinder missile. One F-14 Tomcat was lost in action on January 21st when it was shot down by an Iraqi surface to air missile, the crew ejected safely..

Southern Watch: 1 March 1991- 1 May 2003

During the first days of 1999, 2 USAF F-15s and 4 US Navy F-14D (VF-213) were engaged by about 13 Iraqi MiG's and Mirage F.1s above the No Fly Zone in southern Iraq. In accordance with the UN resolutions, both the F-15s and F-14s fired missiles at long distance at the Iraqi. No Iraqi aircraft were hit, but one Iraqi fighter is said to have crashed on approach to its airbase because of a lack of fuel.
After this incident the UN continue to control the No Fly Zones, undisturbed by Saddam's forces ... eventually firing at Iraqi installations if provoked.

Deliberate Force: Aug.- Sept. 1994

The U.S. Navy aircraft carriers with CVW-8 onboard were on station in the Adriatic Sea. In support of the IFOR and SFOR troops in former Yugoslavia, F-14s from several squadrons flew multi-role missions: Air-to-ground strikes against hostile targets (Close Air Support), Forward Air Control and TARPS missions.

Allied Force: 24 March - 10 June 1999

To end Yugoslavian terror NATO bombed Serbia for weeks day and night. The US send among others the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt which also ment launching F-14s. The role of the F-14s was enemy fighter suppression, forward air control, aerial reconnaissance and also precision laser-guided air-to-ground attacks.

Enduring Freedom 7 October 2001 -

On Oct. 7, 2001 aircraft carriers (CVN-65 with VF-14 & CVN-70 with VF-213) launched long-range, heavy loaded F-14 and medium-range F/A-18 strike fighters day and night while the Air Force sent long-range bombers deep into Afghanistan. Targets were terrorist bases, weapons and vehicles, training camps and Taliban military units.

On Oct. 9, 2001 VF-14 led the first long-range tactical air strike, flying over 1,700 miles round trip to Mazar-e Sharif, where Taliban aircraft were destroyed on the ground. Numerous strikes with precision guided ammunition followed from VF-14, VF-41, VF-102, VF-211 and VF-213.


Iraqi Freedom 20 March 2003 -

F-14 Tomcats took part in the war as part of several Carrier Air Wings. The deputy commander of CVW-41 (USS Abraham Lincoln) stated, that even with the arrival of the F/A-18E, the F-14 remains "the platform of choice for precision targeting." Land-based Navy F-14 Tomcats supported special operations forces on the ground during multiple strike missions over western Iraq. Details are classified


14 posted on 08/14/2005 12:47:54 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Pukin Dog


Su-22 "Fitter"

I remember one engagement. Story I read said the RIO (I think) got a little excited and loosed a Fox 2(?) at a low altitude, where the air was too thick, while the commander was waiting for authorization to fire. The Libyans turned into the Sun in an attempt to evade another IR fix. After receiving auth, they waited until they had to turn and two Libyans were splashed. Don't know if it was this engagement or another.

What you say, Pukin Dog?
15 posted on 08/14/2005 12:56:27 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: Mark

16 posted on 08/14/2005 12:59:08 PM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: t_skoz

My favorite...:)

17 posted on 08/14/2005 1:15:46 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Trueblackman

Wouldn't forget it for one second!

I am going to shed a tear the day they retire those birds...:(


18 posted on 08/14/2005 1:17:21 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Mark

Boy, he is right on top of it...:)


19 posted on 08/14/2005 1:21:51 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Mark

AWESOME...shoulda had Toms do the missing man formation at Reagan's funeral instead of Hornets!


20 posted on 08/14/2005 1:27:49 PM PDT by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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To: rlmorel

You and me both, I remember when Clinton had the molds destoryed back in 1996 and leaving the NAVY with the pisspoor Hornet.


21 posted on 08/14/2005 1:28:15 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman

Agreed. When were you in?


22 posted on 08/14/2005 1:30:35 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Mark
COMING SOON TO THE CLINTON LIBRARY IN LITTLE ROCK!!!!!




"Well, what did you all expect? Summer interns cost money!"

23 posted on 08/14/2005 1:30:48 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Mark

24 posted on 08/14/2005 1:38:34 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Mark

I love it. This is going to drive the far left crazy!


25 posted on 08/14/2005 1:51:54 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
Pretty cool having an F-14 at your peace park, though..

Agreed.

Walk softly and have some big bad Tomcats on your leash.

26 posted on 08/14/2005 1:56:56 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Mark

Very good!


27 posted on 08/14/2005 1:59:25 PM PDT by 4Liberty (WelfARe IS NOT THE ANSWER)
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To: Mark
From www.reaganfoundation.org:
Monday, August 22, 2005,10:00 AM- 11:30 AM

F-14 Arrival Ceremony at the Reagan Library:

• Come join us at the Reagan Library on Monday, August 22nd to personally witness another momentous milestone in the making of the Library’s new Air Force One Pavilion – the installation of a F-14 Tomcat at the Library’s Peace Plaza. In an exciting operation, this 44,000 pound aircraft will be craned into place in a ceremony celebrating President Reagan’s “peace through strength” initiative. The Tomcat will serve as a dramatic bridge between the Pavilion and the Presidential Learning Center. This event is standing-room only and is free to attend (regular admission applies to visit the Museum). No reservations are required. Complimentary parking shuttles will run on Presidential Drive throughout the day.

Schedule of Events:

10:00 a.m. - F-14 gets craned over 35 foot-high colonnade (open to the public to watch)

11:00 a.m. - Arrival Ceremony Program Begins (includes keynote speaker Rear Admiral Venlet and the final movement of the F-14 to the Peace Plaza)

11:30 a.m. - Ceremony Concludes

Members will be notified in advance with additional event details.
(Programs and events subject to date change. Before you visit, please call to confirm event.)


28 posted on 08/14/2005 2:15:31 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: rlmorel

1993-2000


29 posted on 08/14/2005 2:16:31 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Mark

Any indication of the BuNo? Wouldn't it be great if the aircraft was one of the Tomcats that actually flew the Achille Lauro intercept mission?


30 posted on 08/14/2005 2:17:32 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: AnnaZ; feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; Bob J; diotima; gc4nra; ...
Monday, August 22, 2005
10:00 AM- 11:30 AM

F-14 Arrival Ceremony at the Reagan Library

And in possible RELATED news, from the Los Angeles Times (8/4):
...[President Bush] arrived in Texas on Tuesday evening to start his August vacation. Although he does not plan to return to Washington until early September, he will make several day trips and overnight trips in the coming weeks.

To further highlight recent legislative victories in Congress, Bush will sign the energy bill Monday at the Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico and the highway bill Wednesday in Illinois.

He also plans to visit Southern California in late August.
Hmmmm....
31 posted on 08/14/2005 2:23:20 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Trueblackman
You and me both, I remember when Clinton had the molds destoryed back in 1996 and leaving the NAVY with the pisspoor Hornet.

My understanding was that the person responsible for ordering the destruction of the F-14 production tooling was then-SecDef Dick Cheney (during Bush41's term). Cheney was ticked that the NY CongDel kept getting funding for new F-14s (F-14B rebuilds, F-14D re and new builds) added back in to the defense budget so as soon as there was a year where they weren't able to he had the tooling scrapped almost immediately.

What Clinton did in this regards was kill the NATF/F-22 naval derivative (it went through several variations and names, including A/FX) that was supposed to replace the F-14. Clinton also line-item vetoed the supplemental funding that had brought two SR-71s back into service (after which, iirc, the Blackbird tooling was promptly scrapped and the aircraft's wing spars severed.)
32 posted on 08/14/2005 2:24:52 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Rabid Dog
Monday, August 22, 2005
10:00 AM- 11:30 AM

F-14 Arrival Ceremony at the Reagan Library

Ventura County PING, please?
33 posted on 08/14/2005 2:26:27 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: DoughtyOne; doug from upland; Bob J; diotima

Another Reagan Library ROAD TRIP?


34 posted on 08/14/2005 2:27:35 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog; Bernard Marx; pacpam; hoppity; MayflowerMadam; capitan_refugio; Kviteseid; Val E. Girl; ...

Ventura County Ping!


35 posted on 08/14/2005 2:30:00 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Mark

Hehe, a warmongering F-14 in something called the "Peace Plaza" at the Reagan Library...oh, you know THAT is going to make some Cindy Sheehan-loving heads explode! I love it!

}:-)4


36 posted on 08/14/2005 2:33:56 PM PDT by Moose4 (Newsflash: It's the South. In the summer. IT GETS HOT. DEAL WITH IT.)
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To: tanknetter

I stand corrected Clinton closed the F-14 Shop in Norfolk and which contanted that last two molds for F-14's.


37 posted on 08/14/2005 2:38:06 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: F15Eagle

It was actually the Fitters that fired first. They were head to head, and their IR missile was not 'all aspect' and did not track. The ROE says you can shoot when fired at, so the Tomcats of VF-41 (Black Aces) whipped around and caught the Fitters with a couple of Sidewinders.


38 posted on 08/14/2005 3:25:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Trueblackman
It was Dick Cheney who killed the Cat.
39 posted on 08/14/2005 3:27:50 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you, sir!

8)


40 posted on 08/14/2005 4:51:13 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: Mark
30,000-pound Northrop Grumman aircraft

They stripped that one down quite a bit. Empty weight on an operational model is 42,000lbs. Max Cat Shot 76,000lbs (that hurts), Max Trap 54,000lbs (unless you were on the U.S.S. America).

41 posted on 08/14/2005 5:56:15 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Pukin Dog
Beg to differ about best fighter. F-15's are 118 to 0 in aerial combat. Now Tomcats are by far the best NAVY fighter.
42 posted on 08/14/2005 6:00:27 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: JOE6PAK
Maverick requesting fly-by...........

43 posted on 08/14/2005 6:08:41 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: mad_as_he$$
Eagles are 118 to 0 in aerial combat because there are very, very few folks stupid enough to take on the Tomcat. Eagle drivers will tell you about a few exercises where they were glad that we were not keeping score. Just remember, the Tomcat could lock, shoot and down an Eagle before ever showing up on Eagle radar. If you doubt me, ask your favorite Russian what aircraft they were most afraid of.
44 posted on 08/14/2005 6:15:44 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Mark
Venlet received the Distinguished Flying Cross for his role in the shooting down of two Libyan Su-22 aircraft in 1981, marking the first combat kills for the F-14.

Cool. I was stationed on the Nimitz, V-2 Division, Waist Cats. 'Round the clock operations for three days.

I had been on the ship for a month and a half.

Wayback then , the Capacity Selector Valve, (CSV), was located in the Launch Valve Enclosure. Anyways, it was my job to verify that the CSV displayed the proper setting prior to the aircraft being launched. Pretty impressive stuff when you're a bootcamp.

46 posted on 08/14/2005 6:44:43 PM PDT by csvset
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To: valkyry
For reasons I guess you will never understand, I have no need or desire to prove anything to you. I would suggest you put down the bottle, because you are not very lucid at these times. Were what I say just 'talk', that would be one thing, but since it isn't, you and your nonsense do nothing to raise my ire. When and IF you have something constructive to add from your lay-person's perspective, I'll be waiting for it; but don't hold your breath waiting to get a rise out of me. If you have an issue with the admins, I suggest you take it up with them.
47 posted on 08/14/2005 6:44:51 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: valkyry; Pukin Dog

Pukin Dog has spent a good number of years yankin' the stick of not only the Tomcat but the F-16N (think that's the right model) and maybe another -16 model. He has great respect for the Eagle as an air superiority fighter as well.

He's more than willing to share info and opinions from his active duty service. He's just not about getting into dogfights in a forum. I always enjoy listening to the stuff he brings to the table.

Some may not always agree with his opinions but I'll bet when push-comes-to-shove he's a darn good flight lead or wingman to have at your side.


50 posted on 08/14/2005 7:34:23 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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