Posted on 08/15/2005 12:19:57 PM PDT by areafiftyone
Here is an unambivalent statement: "The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."
And, now, here's another:
Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full well that my son, my family, this nation and this world were betrayed by George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agendas after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy not for the real reason, because the Arab Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy.
The first statement comes from Maureen Dowd, in her New York Times column of Aug. 10. The second statement comes from Cindy Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed in Iraq last year. It was sent to the editors of ABC's Nightline on March 15. In her article, Dowd was arguing that Sheehan's moral authority was absolute.
I am at a complete loss to see how these two positions can be made compatible. Sheehan has obviously taken a short course in the Michael Moore/Ramsey Clark school of Iraq analysis and has not succeeded in making it one atom more elegant or persuasive.
(Excerpt) Read more at slate.msn.com ...
Hitchins once again pointing out the obvious and unrefutable facts. Not bad for a lib atheist, he gets it.
I would say that MODO and Cindy are about equally stupid, arrogant, and deranged.
That should be the name of a band: Sinister Piffle.
It just goes to show that the left's Anti-semitism is alive and well. Thank god for Christopher Hitchens. He's a godsend(and I think the male Ann Coulter)
Well said, Mr. Hitchens.
I wonder if her son join the Army to get away from her. If so, she's responsible for his death.
Sheehan's shrill Kabuki theatre for terrorists is backfiring. Be advised, oh, Harpy of The Left, the MSM media dearly loves to build up people, then rip 'em to shreds.
No wonder Al Jazeera takes a liking to her.
Hitch hits another one out of the park.
Very interesting read. I particularly liked the end:
"Finally, I think one must deny to anyone the right to ventriloquize the dead. Casey Sheehan joined up as a responsible adult volunteer. Are we so sure that he would have wanted to see his mother acquiring "a knack for P.R." and announcing that he was killed in a war for a Jewish cabal? This is just as objectionable, on logical as well as moral grounds, as the old pro-war argument that the dead "must not have died in vain." I distrust anyone who claims to speak for the fallen, and I distrust even more the hysterical noncombatants who exploit the grief of those who have to bury them."
I won't say anything negative about this woman, although I may think it really, really loudly in my brain.
I just hope time will bring her heart back to what's most important and she'll leave the podium in her past.
What's PNAC?
Seems to be a popular paragraph.
It's a good one.
Just wanted to see a pic of CZJ?????
Hitchens is my favorite socialistic atheist.
This is definitely working to our advantage. Many threads echo these sentiments today.
I thought it was a Zionist plot to blame it on the Muslims - didn't she get the memo?
"Sinister Piffle" is a flavor of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream.
Finally, I think one must deny to anyone the right to ventriloquize the dead. Casey Sheehan joined up as a responsible adult volunteer. Are we so sure that he would have wanted to see his mother acquiring "a knack for P.R." and announcing that he was killed in a war for a Jewish cabal? This is just as objectionable, on logical as well as moral grounds, as the old pro-war argument that the dead "must not have died in vain." I distrust anyone who claims to speak for the fallen, and I distrust even more the hysterical noncombatants who exploit the grief of those who have to bury them.
Three cheers for Christopher!
Yeah!
Three great minds with but a single thought.
Something well said deserves to be repeated.
Just a matter of time before this loony is calling her own son a butcher, and dupe of bush.
I have a friend who's an officer in the Navy and he said the same thing to me this past weekend. LOL.
Imagine a mother doing this to FDR in WW2. "My son was murdered to help the Jews!" She'd have been thrown in prison.
You know that thought crossed my mind too.
Don't we have "stalker laws" and aren't most stalkers a little un-hinged? Cindy and her "it's all about me" tirades, just flumes of anti-American rhetoric, showing how unstable the woman is, should not be allowed within miles of the President. The woman should be locked up and the key thrown away. She wouldn't know grief if it jumped up and bit her! What she has done to her sons memory is unconscionable.
Sheehan now says that if need be she will "follow" the president "to Washington,"
Is this woman breaking any stalker laws?
Rightie version: The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; and that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle.
I don't think I can come up with six without research, but I gotta do some work between FReeping episodes. Offhand, though, I offer Howard Dean. After his screech, the MSM bludgeoned him so bad he fell outta the race. As I recollect, Sean Penn was hit as well after his "Trip For Bloodthirsty Tyrants" on the eve of the invasion.
In 1985, my 2 and 1/2 year old son died. I believed then and believe now that the treatment or lack thereof he received from his doctor contributed to his death. I wrote the doctor a letter which detailed the reasons for that belief. The last thing I or my wife wanted was to set eyes again on that man. Therefore, although different people deal with grief in different ways, in my opinion Sheehan's desire to see the President a second time is based more on her political views than her need to assuage her grief.
Dowd says, "The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."
Of course, that standard only applies to parents who disagree with the war. Thos parents who support the war are obviously dupes, or simpleton hillbillies.
Cindy Sheehan, Maureen Dowd and the rest of the Leftists have not cornered the market on virtue and nobility...they think they have.
This story is a perfect example of the diffrence between the left and the right; the left uses this woman for political gain while the right is reluctant to trot out parents who support the war.
I'd say Dean was mocked by the MSM but certainly not ripped limb from limb. And when was Penn ripped apart by the MSM? By the right, sure, but when by the left? He was seen as someone who "marched to his own drummer," and I can't recall a single MSM figure ripping him.
"She wouldn't know grief if it jumped up and bit her!"
Looking at her on TV this morning she looked
like someone having a grand old time down there
in Texas.
With her rant, "It's all about the Jooos!" she
has revealed herself for what she really is, and
it's nothing honorable.
Her son's memory deserves better than this.
The Project for the New American Century
http://www.newamericancentury.org/
I agree about her son's memory deserving better.
Wonder if she's offered to give back the burial Flag she was given after her son died? After all, it is a symbol of our Nation. I'd think it would make her physically ill to look at it.
I can't agree with either of you. To say that Casey joined just to get away from his Mother is to denigrate his memory as much as she is doing. He was an adult who joined and he re-joined. It appears the rest of the Sheehan family is pro-military and thankfully influenced him more than his mother. There would have been plenty of other avenues to "escape" his mom if that was his intention.
English Gothic Ska, maybe?
It should definitely be a British band.
Howza about Marion Barry, the crack smoking Mayor D.C.? Admittedly, the MSM needed video, but once they had it they ran with it. So much for work now. ;)
LOL! THAT took far too long. Carry on y'all.
Thank you, Mr. Hitchens, well wrote. It hurts, keenly, to witness the honorable deceased so-ill used.
That was very good. LOL Don't forget to save it!
I have encountered antiwar "lefties" who exhibit critical thinking and intellectual curiosity who probably would read Hitch, but they don't count because when push comes to shove, those few won't betray freedom.
Doesn't count. I predicted long in advance of the events that the Old Media would take Dean down if it looked like he was going to lead the dems over the cliff. They did. But they did it only to help Kerry beat an R.
It's the same with the media's fawning over McCain. They only like him because they can torture the R's with him. The moment he runs against a D, the media will suddenly pull their lips off his hindquarters, pull out a shiv, and stab him in the heart. They will suddenly remember the Keating scandal and notice that McCain is just a little crazy. Johnny will not know what hit him.
So the Old Media gets credit for neither Dean nor McCain. The question should have been posed, has the old media ever trashed a leftist in a way that hurt the left. I can't think of a single time.
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