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Unwelcome Truths (Able Danger, OKC, 9/11)
california republic dot org ^ | 8-15-05 | Cuculu

Posted on 08/15/2005 12:57:02 PM PDT by doug from upland

http://www.californiarepublic.org/archives/Columns/Cucullu/20050815CuculluUnwelcome.html

In mid-19th century America a political party sprung up called the Know Nothing Party. It got its name from a trait that more than a century later would be called “plausible deniability.” Know Nothings - when asked a relevant question - would deny knowledge of the subject. It bemuses us as a quaint eccentricity from a distant time until we realize that we’re doing the same thing today. Recent revelations about covert Able Danger operations conducted in the US against terrorism are forcing certain people to deal with subjects that they had thought swept fully under the carpet.

Because most of the culprits in this astonishing story of willful ignorance are either Democrats - most especially members of the administration of disgraced President Clinton - or are media liberals, the story is likely to be buried until it explodes on Internet publishing, blogs, and talk radio. But this culpability exceeds even the usual gap between left and right in that it includes many in the so-called “realist” wing of the Republican Party and Republican liberals (aka, “centrists” and “moderates” in the MSM).

By now you will have read many summaries of a recently released Able Danger report. The Able Danger operation is described by former CIA operative and terrorism expert Wayne Simmons as “one of our best covert operations.” The operation he continues, was expert at “using open source intel to locate and identify Islamic terrorists.” We can only surmise that a gold mine of information lies yet unrevealed. The latest result was neatly addressed by NY Post columnist Deborah Orin who wrote tellingly of the incredible ineptitude of the highly-touted and endlessly self-absorbed 9/11 Commission. Staffers - perhaps even the self-promoting Commissioners themselves - intentionally ignored Able Danger reports that were delivered on at least two separate briefings, that provided detailed intelligence on terrorist Mohammed Atta and three other hijackers years prior to the September 11 attack.

There are several factors - none flattering to the Commission - that might explain this appalling lapse. John Podhoretz summaries them neatly: “So was the [911 Commission] staff a) protecting the Atta timeline or b) Jamie Gorelick or c) the Clinton administration or d) itself, because it got hold of the information relatively late and the staff was lazy?” Options b and c are tightly related. Then high-ranking Clinton Justice Department appointee Gorelick wrote the infamous “wall” memo that forbade interagency coordination of matters involving internal terrorism investigations. Specifically DOD and CIA were prohibited from exchanging relevant information with FBI. This produced much of the harmful lack of intelligence coordination that the Commission then used arrogantly and paternalistically to criticize the Executive Branch - particularly the Bush administration, even though most of the problems arose during Clinton and earlier. Regardless, the eventual outcome of the Able Danger bombshell will tarnish the image the 9/11 Commission burnished so brightly for itself.

But the really upsetting matter is Podhoretz’s first note. It requires a deeper reading. The Commission was “protecting” its interpretation of Mohammad Atta’s international and domestic US travels. Key in this “interpretation” in the minds of GOP foreign policy “realists,” Clinton supporters, and Bush haters, is the necessity to de-link any ties between Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and al Qaeda operations. After all, in the endless cacophony of criticism against the Iraq War, the two steady drumbeats have been failure to find WMD, and no links between Saddam and the September 11 attack. Till now they have acted in the manner of modern day Know Nothings by deliberate misinterpretations of a series of reports including the 911 Commission’s, and WMD reports by David Kay and Charles Dueffler.

However the unimpeachable Able Danger report, reluctantly acknowledged to be correct by 911 Commission staffers, may well blow the lid off the ability of the Know Nothings to continue to cloak the truth. For the movements of Atta prior to the terrorist attack, if acknowledged, will support statements by the Czech Republic that link Atta, and hence the al Qaeda attack on America, irrefutably to Saddam’s covert intelligence operatives. This is something that surfaced very soon after the attack. The former Czech deputy foreign minister, later ambassador to the UN, gave statements that he personally expelled a high raking Iraqi embassy official in Prague for being a covert foreign intelligence agent after the latter was discovered having met with Atta in the international lounge at the Prague airport in August 2001. There the Iraqi transferred a large amount of cash to Atta, sufficient to fund the completion of the September 11 attack.

Despite cruel pressure from MSM, the hard left, and the US State Department and CIA, the Czechs insisted that their report was correct. Former Congressman John LeBoutellier was furious at the Bush administration for bowing to CIA pressure to discount the Czech report because it verified a vital deadly connection within the covert terrorist community. Now it appears as if the Czechs were right. Don’t hold your breath waiting for apologies to be forthcoming from previous critics.

By acknowledging the Iraq-al Qaeda ties, not only to terrorism in general but to the September 11 attack in particular the anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-expansion of democracy and freedom assaults by the critics are suddenly muted. In fact, the war becomes completely acceptable under any and all circumstances. This outcome is so repugnant to the hard left that it will justify even the most extraordinary suppression of evidence or promulgation of an outright lie in order to achieve its ends.

Furthermore, if the Iraq-al Qaeda ties in one attack are proved then we must dig deeper and investigate the possibility of previous links and previous attacks. This brings us to the Oklahoma City bombing, a too-hasty FBI investigation, and political pressure to close the case once the “perfect” perpetrators were arrested. Who other than Tim McVeigh could have been a more ideal catch? A disgruntled white male redneck, ex-military, supporter of the Branch Davidians, who read neo-Nazi books, McVeigh so represented the left’s worldview that the investigation was halted before it began. Janet Reno, perennial willing accomplice to the Clintons, ordered the FBI to cease work after McVeigh and Terry Nichols were in custody.

Gutsy Oklahoma City reporter Jayna Davis conducted her own contemporary investigation that she details in her excellent book The Third Terrorist, in which she tells of highly suspicious Iraqi behavior in Oklahoma City. Further, she was stunned when the FBI and other law enforcement agencies smugly dismissed her findings and insisted that they had solved and closed the case. For its part, the FBI was happy to wrap up a case quickly without the need to delve into foreign terrorist matters. It was more expeditious to cut away and discard loose ends than to pursue them. Acknowledgement that Iraq and al Qaeda were involved in the bombing would have necessitated a major military response to the attack that the Clinton administration wanted to avoid. As long as the event could be covered by the criminal justice system - as had the 1993 World Trade bombing - Clintons foreign policy aims were accommodated.

Continued investigation by Davis showed that the top Iraqi in question was a former senior Iraqi Republican Guard officer with close Saddam regime ties. Further some of the members of the Iraqi group that fled Oklahoma City when the bombing of the Murrah Building took place moved to the Northeast. One later took a job at Logan International Airport in Boston, the location of two September 11 hijackings. He disappeared after that attack.

The Know Nothing philosophy is harming America, and has become intolerable. It is long overdue for America to sweep away the obfuscating cloud brought on by ludicrous political correctness and the incessant bleating of the Know Nothings. A core principle of war is that in order to win, you must know yourself and know your enemy. We must insist that the truth be surfaced, discussed, analyzed, and acted upon. Continual suppression of essential facts emboldens our enemies and makes us increasingly vulnerable to subsequent attack.

Able Danger reports must be made public to the extent possible, and we must have a reinvestigation of the series of terrorist attacks on America, preferably without the irrational partisanship that has markedly hurt our war effort to date. That may necessitate some harsh words from the White House toward certain opposition politicians and toward the media. It also requires radical reform of the dysfunctional State Department, CIA, FBI, and any other of the Executive Branch agencies that consider themselves a separate branch of government. The American people can handle the truth.

Procrastination - guaranteeing failure - is not an option. tRO

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KEYWORDS: 911; abledanger; atta; jaynadavis; oklahomacity; wtc
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1 posted on 08/15/2005 12:57:03 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

BUMP


2 posted on 08/15/2005 1:02:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Mr and Mrs WilsonIII were both working UNDERtheCOVERS!)
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To: doug from upland

Former Defense Secretary Cohen yesterday talking to Wolf Blitzer...I think he qualifies as a "Know nothing".




BLITZER: Did you know about this unit called Able Danger, these special operations forces that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Hugh Shelton, had created?

COHEN: I'm not -- I don't have a recollection specifically of that.

I certainly know that there were a number of special forces that were set up to gather information. I don't recall receiving that particular report, though.


3 posted on 08/15/2005 1:04:30 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Why? Ask Jamie Gorelick)
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To: doug from upland

This is an excellent piece that says it like it is.
Of course it will be heavily criticized and discounted as inaccurate by those that the real facts incriminate.

This matter goes to the very heart of the Washington government and the corruption, deception, lies and deadly incompetence that MUST BE EXPOSED AND ELIMINATED from our government.

How Washington handles this, will tell you all you need to know about Washington and the major housecleaning that needs to take place there...


4 posted on 08/15/2005 1:05:02 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: doug from upland

I think TWA-800 needs to be re examined. Micheal Leeden makes the point that all bureaucracies tend to accept the explanation that they are most comfortable with. The FAA, FBI and CIA did not want to believe that a missile brought down an aircraft near the coast of the United States.


5 posted on 08/15/2005 1:06:30 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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To: Liberty Valance

I don't recall....
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WHEN YOU HEAR THIS LEAD-IN, YOU KNOW YOU ARE BEING LIED TO. A standard tool of the left in any testimony --- how is Hitlery by the way? I wonder if she knows where Billy is hiding from the revelations of ABLE DANGER ???


6 posted on 08/15/2005 1:06:48 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: doug from upland

Unfortunately I think there are "Know nothings" inhabiting both sides of the aisle. However I think the greatest damage was done by the left leaning know nothings.


7 posted on 08/15/2005 1:06:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: doug from upland
"There the Iraqi transferred a large amount of cash to Atta, sufficient to fund the completion of the September 11 attack"

Say what??????

8 posted on 08/15/2005 1:07:42 PM PDT by brivette
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To: doug from upland

bttt


9 posted on 08/15/2005 1:10:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: doug from upland

Bravo!


10 posted on 08/15/2005 1:11:22 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: doug from upland

argh this is driving me crazy!! My OKC/911 connection ping list is on another hard drive that I can't get to right now.

Suffice it to say that all these divergent disasters, formerly the domain of us 'conspiracy freaks', are starting to gel and gain a foothold in the psyche of the blogosphere.


11 posted on 08/15/2005 1:11:41 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: doug from upland
Continued investigation by Davis showed that the top Iraqi in question was a former senior Iraqi Republican Guard officer with close Saddam regime ties. Further some of the members of the Iraqi group that fled Oklahoma City when the bombing of the Murrah Building took place moved to the Northeast. One later took a job at Logan International Airport in Boston, the location of two September 11 hijackings. He disappeared after that attack.That would be Hussein Al Husseini. He was working at Logan on 911.
12 posted on 08/15/2005 1:16:10 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: doug from upland; All
Crosslinking to:

Able Danger, 9-11 Report, Gorelick, and so much more...

Click the picture...

13 posted on 08/15/2005 1:17:27 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: doug from upland

bttt


14 posted on 08/15/2005 1:19:12 PM PDT by maestro
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To: doug from upland
The former Czech deputy foreign minister, later ambassador to the UN, gave statements that he personally expelled a high raking Iraqi embassy official in Prague for being a covert foreign intelligence agent after the latter was discovered having met with Atta in the international lounge at the Prague airport in August 2001. There the Iraqi transferred a large amount of cash to Atta, sufficient to fund the completion of the September 11 attack.
15 posted on 08/15/2005 1:19:17 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("...there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda." - Thomas Kean, chairman, 9/11 Commission)
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To: brivette
"There the Iraqi transferred a large amount of cash to Atta, sufficient to fund the completion of the September 11 attack"

When it comes to whether or not that meeting took place, I've always believed the Czech Republic over our own government. The Czechs have no reason to just make this stuff up out of the blue.

I've also always believed that, in addition to cash changing hands at that meeting, so did some weapons-grade anthrax. But that's just me.

16 posted on 08/15/2005 1:22:08 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: doug from upland

This gets deeper by the minute - we had a president Clintoon - and a Sandy Burglar asleep on the job. They should be casterated and feed to the hogs.


17 posted on 08/15/2005 1:22:59 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: Nita Nupress

Interesting......


18 posted on 08/15/2005 1:24:01 PM PDT by brivette
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To: All

Gordon and Jayna Davis will be on my Right Talk show on Wednesday. He personally knows a member of Able Danger. Hold onto your FReeper hats!


19 posted on 08/15/2005 1:29:04 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: All

Whoops --- Cucullu.


20 posted on 08/15/2005 1:29:38 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Travis McGee; All

Not one mention of Able Danger on Limbaugh today... can you believe it?!


21 posted on 08/15/2005 1:31:56 PM PDT by johnny7 (I like ya, Lloyd. I always liked ya. You were always the best of 'em.)
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To: backhoe

Thanks for your great work on this. Jayna and Gordon are going to blow off the roof on Right Talk radio on Wednesday.


22 posted on 08/15/2005 1:31:57 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: doug from upland
Jayna and Gordon are going to blow off the roof on Right Talk radio on Wednesday.

Welcome news- thanks.

23 posted on 08/15/2005 1:33:38 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: cripplecreek
Unfortunately I think there are "Know nothings" inhabiting both sides of the aisle. However I think the greatest damage was done by the left leaning know nothings.

Not to argue semantics here, but most, if not all of the damage done by those "left-leaning Know-Nothings" could not have occurred without the overt or covert cooperation of the "right-leaning Know-Nothings."

At least with the left-leaners, you know what you're up against before entering the fight. Conversely, the right-leaning, bought-and-sold, spaghetti-spined Republicans smile at you through their teeth while they reach around and stab you in the back.

24 posted on 08/15/2005 1:35:31 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
The quote "if you harbor a terrorist, you're just as guilty as the terrorist"
keeps coming to mind. Those that enabled the sham investigations of Waco,
OKC, TWA 800, Clinton's various crimes, and the 911 Commission,
are just as guilty as the perps, IMHO......and it sure as hell makes
both political parties look COMPROMISED.
25 posted on 08/15/2005 1:36:52 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: johnny7

yes- you know were he gets his orders from. he is part of the administration. it.s the only pr they have!


26 posted on 08/15/2005 1:40:39 PM PDT by fantom
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To: johnny7
......Not one mention of Able Danger on Limbaugh today... can you believe it?!

...............I believe it.....

:-(

27 posted on 08/15/2005 1:43:04 PM PDT by maestro
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To: sandydipper
This gets deeper by the minute - we had a president Clintoon - and a Sandy Burglar asleep on the job. They should be castrated and feed to the hogs.

That is cruel, that is very cruel, I could never treat a HOG to that kind of cruelty. :)

28 posted on 08/15/2005 1:43:32 PM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Rough Neck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast (Oil Field Trash was FUN))
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To: ovrtaxt
Amen, about time for this to move into the light...this must be shown for what IT IS....failure by our elected servants!!! This will bring down the Clinton sleaze if given enough attention!!!
29 posted on 08/15/2005 1:44:16 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: EagleUSA
Bump to that.

Where does Tenet fit in all of this? Has he made a statement or appeared on any chitchat shows?

30 posted on 08/15/2005 1:45:28 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: doug from upland
Continued investigation by Davis showed that the top Iraqi in question was a former senior Iraqi Republican Guard officer with close Saddam regime ties. Further some of the members of the Iraqi group that fled Oklahoma City when the bombing of the Murrah Building took place moved to the Northeast. One later took a job at Logan International Airport in Boston, the location of two September 11 hijackings. He disappeared after that attack.

And excellent article about the the Know and Do Nothing party operates. Or, as Tammy Bruce calls them, malignant narcissists.

The paragraph I highlighted above is marred only by the fact that the Guard officer in question is the exact same Iraqi who took at job at Logan Airport and was working there on 9/11.

31 posted on 08/15/2005 1:49:22 PM PDT by Peach
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To: doug from upland

All we want is the truth, and it is overdue.


32 posted on 08/15/2005 1:50:01 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (The constitution is not in exile, it's in a nice safe deposit box in the Cayman Islands - Lileks)
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To: ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; Shermy; ...
OKC-911 CONNECTION ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be put on or taken off this list. Thanks.

My other computer has been down, the one with this list on it. My apologies for not pinging you all on the Able Danger developments until now.

33 posted on 08/15/2005 1:51:25 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: brivette
In Washington, the FBI moved to quiet the Prague connection by telling journalists that it had car rentals and records that put Atta in Virginia Beach, Va., and Florida close to, if not during, the period when he was supposed to be in Prague. The New York Times , citing information provided by "federal law enforcement officials," reported that Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 2, 2001, and by April 11, "Atta was back in Florida, renting a car."

All these reports attributed to the FBI were, as it turns out, erroneous. There were no car rental records in Virginia, Florida, or anywhere else in April 2001 for Mohamed Atta, since he had not yet obtained his Florida license.

His international license was at his father's home in Cairo, Egypt (where his roommate Marwan al-Shehhi picked it up in late April). Nor were there other records in the hands of the FBI that put Atta in the United States at the time. Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in June 2002, "It is possible that Atta traveled under an unknown alias" to "meet with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague." Clearly, it was not beyond the capabilities of the 9/11 hijackers to use aliases.

Source

The only dispute over Atta's whereabouts is whether he was in Prague on April 9, 2001, to meet with Samir al Ani, an Iraqi intelligence officer. Czech intelligence insists he was. Able Danger, apparently, had information supporting the Czechs.

Source

Spanish police last February arrested Algerians Khaled Madani, 33, and Moussa Laour, 36, on suspicion of furnishing phony passports to, among others, al Qaeda operatives Ramzi Binalshibh and Mohamed Atta. According to a February 29 Associated Press dispatch, Binalshibh revealed Madani's identity to interrogators at the American military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Source

Also info on Shakir at that link, which is another connection between 9/11 and Iraq.

January 4, 2001: Atta flies from Miami to Madrid, Spain.

January 10, 2001: Return flight from Madrid to Miami.

Wikipedia Timeline

This was 4 months before he allegedly went to Prague. IMHO, this is when he picked up the fake passports, which he used to go to Prague.

34 posted on 08/15/2005 1:53:24 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: doug from upland
Doug,

Just to make it absolutely clear: Was it the Czech foreign minister who said that the meeting between Atta and the Iraqi official had taken place at the airport and that money had changed hands?

This is the first time I 've heard about an August meeting! Is it a misprint and the meeting referred to is the 8th of April meeting?
35 posted on 08/15/2005 1:57:03 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: doug from upland; ovrtaxt

good thread doug.. thanks for ping ovrtxt


36 posted on 08/15/2005 1:58:27 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your s God is!)
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To: ScaniaBoy

What am I missing? Where did you see August meeting?


37 posted on 08/15/2005 1:59:29 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: johnny7

Rush spoke about Able Danger quite a bit on Friday.


38 posted on 08/15/2005 2:00:05 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: doug from upland

Interesting Post Bump.


39 posted on 08/15/2005 2:01:21 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: DollyCali

Just doing my part to bring down the buttkissing good ol boy network.


40 posted on 08/15/2005 2:01:31 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: brivette
Had to look up the answer to your original question:

The Czech counterintelligence service reported that the Sept. 11 hijacker [Mohamed] Atta met with the former Iraqi intelligence chief in Prague, [Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir] al Ani, on several occasions. During one of these meetings, al Ani ordered the IIS finance officer to issue Atta funds from IIS financial holdings in the Prague office.

Source

41 posted on 08/15/2005 2:02:10 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: EagleUSA

What you said BUMP!


42 posted on 08/15/2005 2:02:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: doug from upland
This is something that surfaced very soon after the attack. The former Czech deputy foreign minister, later ambassador to the UN, gave statements that he personally expelled a high raking Iraqi embassy official in Prague for being a covert foreign intelligence agent after the latter was discovered having met with Atta in the international lounge at the Prague airport in August 2001. There the Iraqi transferred a large amount of cash to Atta, sufficient to fund the completion of the September 11 attack.

Don't want to be difficult, but the know-nothings will attack any fact out of kilter or misquote or even misspelling just to kill off this story.

43 posted on 08/15/2005 2:03:01 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: MamaLucci
The quote "if you harbor a terrorist, you're just as guilty as the terrorist" keeps coming to mind. Those that enabled the sham investigations of Waco, OKC, TWA 800, Clinton's various crimes, and the 911 Commission, are just as guilty as the perps, IMHO......and it sure as hell makes both political parties look COMPROMISED.

Amen, you preach it, Mama! It's about time we took to the streets to let them know we want the truth, no matter what. Otherwise, it'll just be more of the same. At the very least, maybe it's about time for term limits.

44 posted on 08/15/2005 2:03:08 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: doug from upland

Great post BUMP.


45 posted on 08/15/2005 2:04:01 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ravingnutter

Thank you!


46 posted on 08/15/2005 2:06:02 PM PDT by brivette
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To: doug from upland

I hope this story does not die.


47 posted on 08/15/2005 2:06:16 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's code and found a terrorist message.)
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To: doug from upland

"This outcome is so repugnant to the hard left that it will justify even the most extraordinary suppression of evidence or promulgation of an outright lie in order to achieve its ends."

What is an "extraordinary suppression of evidence" by the Organized Hard Left(OHL)? It's routine no matter how complete and outrageous it is. Nor is the "promulgation of an outright lie" anything special. It's what the OHL does.


48 posted on 08/15/2005 2:06:44 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: ScaniaBoy
Al-Ani was expelled from the Czech Republic on April 22, 2001, for "activities exceeding his diplomatic duties" -- a common euphemism for espionage.

I don't know about the later date. I hope someone can clarify.

49 posted on 08/15/2005 2:08:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Nita Nupress; MamaLucci

Let's not go too far. Enablers of sham after-the-fact investigations of violent acts are guilty, but nowhere near as guilty as the one's who do those acts.


50 posted on 08/15/2005 2:08:37 PM PDT by expatpat
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