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Report: State Rights, Authority Threatened - REAL ID Act Requirement by 2008
NYNewsDay ^

Posted on 08/16/2005 5:16:21 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

OLYMPIA, Wash. -- States are continuing to see their authority stepped on by the federal government, something that not only curtails their independence in dealing with such matters as elections and education, but in the case of a new national ID card, could cost them financially, according to a new report.

The REAL ID Act that passed in June as part of an $82 billion military spending bill requires states, by 2008, to verify whether license applicants are U.S. citizens or legal residents of the United States.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: realid; realidact
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1 posted on 08/16/2005 5:16:24 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; Pro-Bush; ...
Is the Real ID Act the real deal or the raw deal?

(And why do we have to wait until 2008 for it to be fully enacted?)

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The REAL ID Act that passed in June as part of an $82 billion military spending bill requires states, by 2008, to verify whether license applicants are U.S. citizens or legal residents of the United States.

2 posted on 08/16/2005 5:20:12 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

And there's a mention of Garrett's (NJ) bill in regard to limiting the new SC property theft ruling's impact, too.


4 posted on 08/16/2005 5:27:40 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Islam is a religion of peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.)
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To: Happy2BMe

The REAL ID Act that passed in June as part of an $82 billion military spending bill requires states, by 2008, to verify whether license applicants are U.S. citizens or legal residents of the United States.
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Another ruse. Why don't they just forget about it. 2008? Real urgency, right? Well, of course, 2008 holds an election which ILLEGALS CAN VOTE - ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS PROVIDE A FAKE LICENSE AND THAT IS CARTE BLANCHE TO VOTE (another Thank You to Bush One for that piece of legislation)...at least that is THE LAW at the present time. No one at a polling place can challenge their legal identity -- just amazing.

Who is kidding who?


5 posted on 08/16/2005 5:28:48 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Lincarhamus
What we need is a National Monetary Card, thus no purchases if your not here legally, whether terrorist or otherwise.

It wouldn't keep employers from paying illegals, though. They could use a host (legal) to make their purchases for them.

Would the feds keep records of NMC purchases?
6 posted on 08/16/2005 5:30:18 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Islam is a religion of peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.)
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To: Travis McGee; sheik yerbouty

ping!


7 posted on 08/16/2005 5:31:24 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Lincarhamus; Salem; FBD; F15Eagle
"What we need is a National Monetary Card, thus no purchases if your not here legally, whether terrorist or otherwise."

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Electronic numbers and ID cards are becoming more and more important as national and world solutions to ever-increasing and complex monetary and demographic problems . .

8 posted on 08/16/2005 5:34:13 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I'm on the side of state autonomy, but this act is well within the fed's power. States can do whatever they want with IDs and licenses, but federal agencies simply will not recognize any form of ID that doesn't comply. You could always get a passport.


9 posted on 08/16/2005 5:39:37 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: EagleUSA; Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest
"Who is kidding who?"

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One thing is for certain, the REAL ID ACT will create more government instead of less government. More bureaucracy instead of less, more prying government control of individual lives and privacy instead of less.

(I think there is a name for such a form of government.)

A strict and forbidden breach of the Republican Approach to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

10 posted on 08/16/2005 5:40:39 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

What is to stop the goverment with going on to the next 'numbering system' - namely implanting micro chips for ID and tracking purposes into the flesh of Americans?


11 posted on 08/16/2005 5:42:35 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Real ID Act Loopholes
12 posted on 08/16/2005 5:46:32 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Islam is a religion of peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.)
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To: Das Outsider
Michelle Malkin is highly criticized by the OBL for her tough and accurate position against the illegal alien invasion.

Therefore, I support her 150%.

Great link on that BTW - thanks.

:~)

13 posted on 08/16/2005 5:50:30 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

My state already requires proof of citizenship as of July 1, 2005. Let the complaining begin!!!


14 posted on 08/16/2005 5:53:32 PM PDT by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!)
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To: Happy2BMe

One thing is for certain, the REAL ID ACT will create more government instead of less government. More bureaucracy instead of less, more prying government control of individual lives and privacy instead of less.
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Agreed. And what will it do for our immigration and border quagmire?? NOTHING. The only thing that will fix that problem is (1) close the borders, (2) run out illegals or get them on a SELF-SUPPORTING WORKER PROGRAM and off the tax rolls.

So what is the REAL ID all about??? MAJOR SOCIALISM. And little else...just more pretending to fix the problem while only putting band-aids on the symptoms...who is kidding who???


15 posted on 08/16/2005 5:57:35 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Happy2BMe

Enforce the law, or STFU about wheather I come to a full stop at a stop sign!


16 posted on 08/16/2005 6:00:46 PM PDT by Waco
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To: EagleUSA
NEVER has a government once it has taken the fundamental right of privacy away from it's citizens willfully given it back.
17 posted on 08/16/2005 6:03:04 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

NEVER has a government once it has taken the fundamental right of privacy away from it's citizens willfully given it back.
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And since when does taking rights away from REAL U.S. CITIZENS fix the breaking of immigration laws by foreign invaders?? Specifically when your government WILL NOT LIFT A FINGER TO ENFORCE THE LAWS!!!


18 posted on 08/16/2005 6:05:06 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Waco
They are a-changin' - As goes the Lone Star State, so will the rest of the nation go

19 posted on 08/16/2005 6:05:13 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: EagleUSA
"And since when does taking rights away from REAL U.S. CITIZENS fix the breaking of immigration laws by foreign invaders??"

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The answer, you are now living under a duplicitous government.

Main Entry: du·plic·i·ty
Pronunciation: du-'pli-s&-tE also dyu-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle English duplicite, from Middle French, from Late Latin duplicitat-, duplicitas, from Latin duplex
1 : contradictory doubleness of thought, speech, or action; especially : the belying of one's true intentions by deceptive words or action
2 : the quality or state of being double or twofold
3 : the technically incorrect use of two or more distinct items (as claims, charges, or defenses) in a single legal action


20 posted on 08/16/2005 6:08:22 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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