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Law enforcement agencies take on MS-13
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/18/05 | Pete Yost - AP

Posted on 08/18/2005 9:45:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) - Law enforcement officials from five countries said Wednesday they are struggling to deal with the street gang called MS-13 that is plaguing communities from the United States to Central America.

A meeting at FBI headquarters launched an unprecedented effort to make inroads against what officials called "a culture of violence."

"We're trying to build networks of communication for sharing historical and current data on MS-13 members," said Deborah Strebel Pierce, deputy assistant director for the FBI criminal investigative division.

Shorthand for Mara Salvatrucha, which loosely translates to guerrilla gang, MS-13 is a Latin American gang founded in Los Angeles by refugees from El Salvador. Members also come from Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico.

Never before has there been such an international law enforcement effort targeting a street gang, which in the case of MS-13 has mushroomed into the size of a small army.

El Salvador is trying to dismantle an MS-13 structure that numbers in the thousands, Douglas Omar Garcia Funes of that country's national police force told reporters during the daylong meeting.

U.S. authorities estimate MS-13 has some 10,000 members in more than 30 states.

Three members of the Los Angeles crew moved to the Washington area in 1993 to recruit, and by this past spring there were some 1,500 members in the area, an FBI official recently told Congress.

The FBI is coordinating a law enforcement investigative effort that other agencies and countries are carrying out. Pierce said a rapid flow of information among all the participants in the law enforcement campaign is a key to reining in the gang.

Police believe the stabbings of six teenagers last week in the Washington suburbs were the work of MS-13.

The gang has carried out beheadings and grenade attacks in Central America and hacked enemies with machetes in cities along the East Coast in the United States.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agencies; aliens; gangs; lawenforcement; marasalvatrucha; ms13; takeon

U.S. law enforcement officials take part in the MS-13 National Gang Task Force meeting with law enforcement counterparts from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico at FBI headquarters, Wednesday, Aug. 17, 2005, in Washington.(AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)

1 posted on 08/18/2005 9:45:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Homeland Security should get involved, not just with this gang but with gangs in general. They need to be declared as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

Because I want criminals punished, that makes me a racist. Let's get that out there right away.

2 posted on 08/18/2005 9:47:55 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: NormsRevenge
MS13 was created by a chain of circumstances that began with the Democratic party and the Boland Amendment.

Although no Republican expected it to come to this, I firmly believe people like Teddy Kennedy knew that the ultimate manifestation of the policy behind Boland would be MS13 which endangers the life and safety of every honest American.

When we mop of this band of thugs, let's make sure their political sponsors in Congress get jailed along with them.

3 posted on 08/18/2005 9:51:02 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: NormsRevenge

that usually means that the first thing they will want is
for honest american non gang member tax payers to turn in their firearms

4 posted on 08/18/2005 9:56:58 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: NormsRevenge
You can blame the insurgency of MS-13 here, directly on our federal government.
They are still turning a blind eye on illegal immigration thru their open border policy.
Question:How do you think the MS-13 "Salvadorenos" got here?
Answer: Over our porous border with Mexico.
Now the Feds have a plan to "save us" with another bloated task force. Deport all of the gangsters and seal our borders!
5 posted on 08/18/2005 10:36:14 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: NormsRevenge


6 posted on 08/18/2005 5:06:46 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: NormsRevenge
Note: I'm dropping these links in here for archival purposes.

A discussion on regarding a DALLAS MORNING NEWS article via KANSAS CITY STAR: "FBI BULLETIN OUTLINES POSSIBLE TERRORIST PLOT AT TEXAS BORDER" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The plot, according to uncorroborated information provided by an FBI informant, involves a man, described as an Arab who goes by the nickname "El Espanol," and Ernesto Zatarin Beliz, also known as El Traca, a reputed Mexican drug trafficker and member of the Zetas, the feared enforcers of the notorious Gulf cartel.") (July 17, 2005) (Read More...) Washington - "MEXICAN DRUG COMMANDOS EXPAND OPS IN 6 US STATES" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The ultra-violent, U.S.-trained elite, Mexican paramilitary commandos known as the "Zetas," responsible for hundreds of murders along the border this year, have expanded their enforcement efforts on behalf of a drug cartel by setting up trafficking routes in six U.S. states. A U.S. Justice Department memo says the U.S.-trained units have recently moved operations into Houston, San Antonio and the states of California, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida. They have been operating in Dallas for at least two years, according to the feds.") (June 21, 2005) (Read More...) - Keyword: "ZETAS" (Read More...)

A Discussion on regarding an AP article published in - THE CHARLESTON GAZETTE: "VICIOUS MS-13 STREET GANG BRINGING ITS BLOOD LUST TO W. VA" (August 14, 2005) (Read More...)
Google News Search Term: "MARA SALVATRUCHA" (Read More...)

Google News Search Term: "MS-13" (Read More...)

7 posted on 08/18/2005 11:07:01 PM PDT by Cindy
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MS-13 in Your Backyard(George Putnam Opines) ^ | Friday, Aug. 19, 2005 | George Putnam

Posted on 08/19/2005 4:17:19 PM PDT by kellynla

It is this reporter's opinion that while the nation focuses on terrorism, we have all but overlooked the issue of gang violence. Over the past fifty years in Los Angeles we have covered many of the homegrown gangs: the White Fence gang, Boyle Heights gang, the Bloods and the Crips, and others.

These were child's play compared with America's most dangerous gang: the Mara Salvatrucha 13 street gang (MS-13).

The gang was organized in Los Angeles in the late '80s and was named for La Mara, a street in San Salvador. Its primary purpose was to defend Salvadoran immigrants from being preyed upon by other L.A. street gangs. Gang members sometimes wear blue and white – colors taken from the flag of El Salvador. They also sport numerous body and facial tattoos.

MS-13 has expanded from California to Alaska, Oregon, Utah, Texas, Nevada, Oklahoma ... from New York to Los Angeles and Alaska to Florida. MS-13 has also been exported back to Central America. It is estimated there are 36,000 MS-13 members in Honduras alone.

They are vicious, they are violent, they murder, rob, rape and behead their victims.

MS-13 appears to be in control of much of the Mexican border. To sustain themselves financially, they smuggle people, drugs and guns across borders. They collect money from illegals. Where MS-13 goes, violence goes. They stop at nothing.

MS-13 is becoming everyone's problem. It is a plague that has come to Long Island from El Salvador by way of the streets of Los Angeles.

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

8 posted on 08/19/2005 4:21:01 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: NormsRevenge

RICO should be initiated!

9 posted on 08/19/2005 4:22:54 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others.)
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To: Cindy
Is there a way to identify the gang members, i.e., colors they wear, etc.?


10 posted on 08/19/2005 4:24:33 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre


You'll probably have to scroll back several pages on this thread for some links I posted regarding gangs or put whatever gang you want to know more info about in a search engine in quotes and see what pops up.

11 posted on 08/19/2005 4:29:21 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: spectre
Is there a way to identify the gang members, i.e., colors they wear, etc.?

Here are some examples of the tattoos that some MS13 members sport. You'll notice the MS

12 posted on 08/19/2005 4:58:43 PM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset; Cindy

I can't even crack a joke about this. Thanks.


13 posted on 08/19/2005 6:04:38 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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Police Arrest Suspected MS-13 Member
Eyewitness News
(08/18/05 - SAMPSON COUNTY) -

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Erik Rubio Fuentes was captured Monday near Newton Grove. Fuentes and an accomplice were allegedly caught in the act of breaking and entering into a house. Deputies chased the men and eventually captured Fuentes in a cornfield. The second suspect escaped.
Investigators believe Fuentes and other gang members may be responsible for a rash of breaking and entering in Sampson and Wayne counties.

Meanwhile, an international effort is underway to get the MS-13 gang off the streets."

14 posted on 08/19/2005 11:37:59 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: spectre; All
Sorry, about that...I thought you were asking that question on the Threat Matrix today. Let me get some gang-related links for you to peruse. "THE CORONER'S REPORT"




15 posted on 08/19/2005 11:45:31 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: csvset

Thanks csvset for the photos.

I've also seen some of the more built big guys
with Mara Savatrucha tatted on, too.

Slimeballs one and all.

16 posted on 08/19/2005 11:47:10 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
I looked this up on Gangs Or Us..

A snip worth a warning.

" Since its inception, MS has expanded beyond its "hubs" of Los Angeles and Northern Virginia, though its numbers in these cities continue to grow at alarming rates.

Nationwide, however, MS has expanded into Oregon, Alaska, Arkansas, Texas, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Maryland, Virginia, Georgia and Florida. They also are spreading in Canada and Mexico.

Some reports place MS "cliques"[sub-units of gang members] in 49 states – with Hawaii escaping the infestation to date."

Robert Walker's, "Gangs OR Us" has an expose that goes into great detail about this gang. It was shocking to read how they use the internet to communicate and brag about themselves.



17 posted on 08/20/2005 7:25:41 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

I'm familiar with gangs.
It's too bad when one brings up gangs/crimes, illegals/border crime; the evil pc crowd comes out to shout: "DISCRIMINATION." Very sad.

Political correctness is a culture killer.
Political correctness IS a killer.

18 posted on 08/20/2005 11:47:04 AM PDT by Cindy
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"19 Charged for Gang Violence in Maryland"
Updated: Thursday, Aug. 25, 2005 - 3:57 PM


ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The indictments released Thursday say the men committed shootings, kidnappings and other gang-related crimes from April 2003 through June of this year. Six people were slain and gang members allegedly attempted to kill five others.

Montgomery County police arrested 12 people this month after MS-13-related attacks in which six teens were stabbed at a high school and shopping mall. Prince George's County police are investigating possible MS-13 links to recent stabbings as well.

The federal indictment, which a grand jury handed up Tuesday, accuses the 19 men of violating federal racketeering law. It does not charge them with individual crimes such as homicide or assault.

MS-13, also known as Mara Salvatrucha, originated in Los Angeles among Central American immigrants. An estimated 10,000 MS-13 members are in the United States, many in the Washington suburbs, which have a large population of Central American immigrants."

19 posted on 08/25/2005 1:18:27 PM PDT by Cindy
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20 posted on 08/25/2005 1:41:12 PM PDT by Cindy
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Note: The following text is an exact quote:

August 29, 2005

Local MS-13 leader is among those arrested in latest Operation Community Shield action

SEATTLE – A total of 24 members and associates of the violent Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) street gang were arrested here last week on a range of criminal and administrative charges in a coordinated multi-agency enforcement operation. Among the 20 foreign nationals and four United States citizens taken into custody was Yoni Gonzales, a known MS-13 gang leader in the Seattle area.

The week-long operation was organized by ICE as part of “Operation Community Shield,”a n ongoing national ICE anti-gang initiative designed to disrupt, dismantle, and prosecute violent gang members and their organizations. Other agencies participating in the Seattle operation included the U.S. Marshals Service, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives; the Federal Bureau of Investigation; the Washington Department of Corrections; the Seattle Police Department; the Northwest High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area task force; and the United States Attorney’s Office.

The majority of the men arrested during last week’s operation had criminal histories, including prior convictions for narcotics distribution and assault. Almost all of the subjects admitted being members of MS-13 in the Seattle area and had tattoos showing their gang affiliation. The non-citizens taken into custody included foreign nationals from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Mexico.

“We have a message for the violent street gang members in America: ‘stopping your violence and criminal activities is high on our list of ICE’s priorities,”’ said Brad Bench, acting special agent-in-charge for ICE investigations in Seattle. “Working with our law enforcement counterparts, we are going to use every tool at our disposal to take these criminals off the streets and break the cycle of gang-related violence that is threatening the safety of our communities.”

In January, ICE launched Operation Community Shield, a national anti-gang initiative that brings all of ICE’s law enforcement powers to bear in the fight against violent gangs. Initially, Operation Community Shield targeted members of MS-13. In May, ICE expanded Operation Community Shield to include all criminal street gangs and prison gangs with foreign-born members.

To date, Operation Community Shield has resulted in the arrest of more than 1,260 gang members and associates nationwide, including approximately 632 members of MS-13. Of all those arrested, a total of 276 have been charged with criminal violations while a total of 986 have been charged with administrative immigration violations.

# ICE #

3,837 posted on 08/30/2005 6:23:21 PM PDT by Cindy

21 posted on 08/30/2005 6:39:54 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Marine Inspector; JohnathanRGalt; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; ...

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September 03, 2005

Immigrant gang suspected of al-Qaida ties

MS-13 update from AP, with thanks to Judy:

Midwestern farmlands seem an unlikely hideout for Osama bin Laden's hired hands, but an ongoing federal crackdown reveals the increased presence here of a notoriously violent gang with suspected links to al-Qaida.
Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, a gang founded in El Salvador and known for smuggling drugs and immigrants across the U.S.-Mexico border, could be bringing terrorists with them.

"The al-Qaida, from what we understand, has been meeting with them in Central America," said Rep. Solomon Ortiz, D-Texas, a member of the House Armed Services Committee, which oversees national security.

Ortiz testified in March that al-Qaida has offered MS-13 about $250,000 to smuggle "high value al-Qaida operatives across the border."

"Only God knows who or what they've been able to bring in" to the United States, Ortiz told The Associated Press.

The FBI estimates up to 30,000 MS-13s are in the United States.

Posted at September 3, 2005 08:16 AM

22 posted on 09/03/2005 11:46:34 AM PDT by Cindy
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23 posted on 09/03/2005 11:48:47 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: NormsRevenge

Aim directly between the M and the S and I think that should take one down nicely.

24 posted on 09/03/2005 11:50:42 AM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: Cindy


25 posted on 09/03/2005 11:59:03 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Christian, Comedian, Husband,Opa, Dog Owner, former Cat Co-dweller, and all around good guy.)
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To: Sensei Ern

Good afternoon Ern.

Yep, I updated this thread this morning.

26 posted on 09/03/2005 12:02:31 PM PDT by Cindy
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International Effort Nets 650 Arrests


In cooperation with our local, state, federal, and international partners, the FBI’s MS-13 National Gang Task Force (NGTF) coordinated a series of arrests and crackdowns across the nation and throughout Mexico and Central America this week. The operation resulted in a series of arrests, searches, detentions, and other law enforcement actions. At the conclusion of the operation, more than 650 individuals had been taken into custody.

Law enforcement agencies in five nations participated in the operation targeting members of Mara Salvatrucha-13 and similar violent gangs. Most of the arrests were made Wednesday, with more than 6,400 police officers, federal agents and other officials taking part in 12 states and five countries: the U.S., El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico.

“The gangs are organizing internationally, and so are we,” said Chris Swecker, FBI assistant director in charge of our Criminal Investigative Division, discussing the operations Thursday. He called the operations “historic and unprecedented in scope.”

In the United States, 73 individuals were arrested on a range of charges, including immigration violations. In El Salvador, more than 237 individuals were arrested, in addition to 162 in Honduras, 98 in Guatemala and 90 in the Mexican state of Chiapas. Police in each country conducted separate operations coordinated through the FBI’s MS-13 NGTF.

Law enforcement officials recovered at least one weapon possibly linked to a murder during the raids, as well as numerous other weapons and drugs, Swecker said.

The FBI’s MS-13 NGTF was established last year to help coordinate and focus law enforcement efforts to combat MS-13 and similar gangs. There are an estimated 10,000 MS-13 members in the United States and an additional 50,000 in El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico.

Members of MS-13 have been identified in 33 states, the District of Columbia, Mexico and Central America. In the United States, the largest concentrations are in California, Northern Virginia, and New York.

“We are very happy with the cooperative effort by the U.S. in fighting the so-called Mara, or gangs,” said Hector Salazar-Ochoa, captain in the Guatemalan National Civil Police. He and representatives from the other participating nations appeared with Swecker at FBI headquarters to announce results of the operations.

“The ultimate goal of the task force is to dismantle MS-13 and disrupt the threat it poses to our domestic and national security,” Swecker said. The arrests—as well as searches, detentions, and other actions taken this week—were not a culmination of a particular investigation, but part of an ongoing battle against the gangs.

In the United States, the arrests involved over 625 officers from more than 30 state and local law enforcement agencies and officials from the FBI, the Bureau of Prisons; Immigration and Customs Enforcement; Customs and Border Patrol; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; the U.S. Marshals Service; and the Drug Enforcement Agency. Additionally, agents from the Department of State’s Diplomatic Security Service provided assistance in the coordination of the foreign operations.

“By bringing together resources from the local, state, federal and international law enforcement community, all levels of U.S. law enforcement and our international partners are working together and sharing information,” Swecker said. “This represents a beginning, another step in an ongoing national and international effort to go on offense and to strike back against gang violence.”

27 posted on 09/09/2005 1:47:50 PM PDT by Cindy
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Wednesday, September 14, 2005
U.S. sweep aimed at Salvadoran gang here
"Immigration agents targeted South Park area"


ARTICLE SNIPPET: "MS-13, also called Mara Salvatrucha, has developed a reputation across the United States for brutal slayings and connections to other criminal enterprises, ranging from drug dealing to immigrant trafficking.

There are believed to be fewer than 50 MS-13 members in the Puget Sound region, according to data gathered by the Northwest High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area task force. Two dozen men were detained in the August sweep."

28 posted on 09/14/2005 11:46:27 PM PDT by Cindy
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Forbes targets immigrants in gangs (MS-13 in Va.)
The Washington Times ^ | 9-15-05 | Gary Emerling

Posted on 09/15/2005 11:55:01 AM PDT by JZelle

U.S. Rep. J. Randy Forbes said gang-related violence, such as the 2002 rapes of two deaf teenagers by MS-13 members, has spurred him to combat such activity with legislation that would crack down on immigrants involved in criminal gangs. "We heard of kids coming home from school and they can't even go outside; they have to stay hunkered down because of the gang activity out there," the Virginia Republican said. "As we saw that we realized we had to do something or it was going to be totally out of control." Mr. Forbes has introduced a bill that would allow the government to deport aliens and immigrants who are not permanent residents of the United States and belong to criminal gangs. He said hearing about the gang-rape of the two girls -- one of whom was wheelchair-bound and suffering from cerebral palsy -- in a Boston park by up to six youths three years ago pushed him to introduce the legislation. "The country's thrust up to this point in fighting gang activity is wait until they kill somebody, hurt somebody or rape somebody and then go after them," he said. "We just don't find that" working.

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29 posted on 09/22/2005 12:49:42 AM PDT by Cindy
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While primarily related to other subjects, these posts:

-Thunder on the Border-- (Minuteman Project)--

-Terror Strike- London!--

have links for terrorism in general, and gangs in particular.

Besides MS-13, note SUR-13.

30 posted on 09/22/2005 1:16:43 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe; Cindy; NormsRevenge; Brad's Gramma; BurbankKarl

Thanks for the info/

31 posted on 09/22/2005 1:21:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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32 posted on 09/22/2005 1:38:01 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe

SUR-13 is different than MS-13, that is (sur) south 13 and then there is norte 14, and then there is MS-18, etc...all gangbangers, just different divisions, if you will.

33 posted on 09/22/2005 1:50:10 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: backhoe; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks backhoe and Ernerst for your ongoing interest in this topc -- PRO-AMERICAN GUYS...I appreciate it.

34 posted on 09/22/2005 1:51:49 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Travis McGee

MS-13 ping.

35 posted on 09/22/2005 4:11:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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Thank goodness President Bush is taking border security so seriously, so these killers can't simply walk into the USA.

36 posted on 09/22/2005 8:41:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- ---)
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