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Did fiery essay get author fired?
The Chicago Tribune ^ | 08/18/2005 | Michael Higgins

Posted on 08/18/2005 2:30:06 PM PDT by Woodland

J. Matt Barber, a born-again Christian from Villa Park, hoped to get some reaction in December when he wrote a fiery online essay denouncing same-sex marriage and the "destructive nature ... of the homosexual lifestyle."

But the strongest response, Barber said, came from his employers at Allstate Corp. He said two supervisors slapped the article down in front of him, told him he was suspended without pay and had him escorted from the company grounds in Northbrook.

"I'm thinking, `What business is this of yours?'" said Barber, 36, who had worked for Allstate for five years, mostly in corporate security. "This is something I did on my own time. This was my own viewpoint. ... [One supervisor] said, `Well, you know, here at Allstate we have a very diverse community.'"

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: allstate; allstatehomos; fired; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; samesexmarriage; workplace

1 posted on 08/18/2005 2:30:08 PM PDT by Woodland
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To: Woodland

I would insert my divserse lawsuit up there a__.


2 posted on 08/18/2005 2:31:09 PM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Woodland
Let me be the first...

You're in good glans with Allstate!.."

3 posted on 08/18/2005 2:32:45 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Woodland

You're in good glans with Christian-hating Allstate!


4 posted on 08/18/2005 2:36:47 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
Barber has been looking for work since his firing six months ago, and he and his wife have put their house up for sale. "What [Allstate officials] have done here is reach from Allstate into my living room and say, `You can't think this way,'" Barber said.

Diversity bump!

5 posted on 08/18/2005 2:38:10 PM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! ")
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To: Woodland

I guess Allstate doesn't believe that the bill of rights applies to its own employees. I haven't checked, but I'd be willing to wager that Allstate started as an American company on American soil probably at least 40-50 years after the constitution was ratified, so how do they think that their own corporate policies take precedence?


6 posted on 08/18/2005 2:38:55 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: Woodland
Sounds like he's going to have a tough time winning this lawsuit.

The strategy behind Barber's lawsuit is an unusual one, said Matthew Finkin, law professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Contrary to popular belief, private companies in Illinois and in virtually every other state can fire workers for saying things that embarrass the company--a fact many bloggers have learned the hard way, he said.

Barber's theory is that his views on same-sex marriage constitute religious expression and thus are protected under federal civil rights laws.

The suit is phrased accordingly, saying Barber "felt led of God to write and submit [the article] for online publication."

Finkin said Barber's argument may be hampered by the fact that he does not quote Scripture to support his argument and instead roots his positions in statements about biology and traditional values. "Political polemics are not protected in Illinois," Finkin said.

7 posted on 08/18/2005 2:39:07 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Woodland

Increasingly, corporations want anti nationalist, hyper modernist, anti American globalists working for them. Real Americans are viewed as people who need to be thrown out. Real Americans are viewed as small business people but not "corporate material."


8 posted on 08/18/2005 2:39:22 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Woodland
"Barber filed a lawsuit in May in federal court in Chicago alleging that Allstate's action constituted discrimination on the basis of religion, a novel argument, some legal experts said."

A novel argument? Since "diversity" translates to "anti-Christian", how can this be anything but discrimination based on religion?

Calling Jay Sekulow.

9 posted on 08/18/2005 2:40:16 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: Albion Wilde

FYI


10 posted on 08/18/2005 2:41:04 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: Woodland

Go to hell Allstate!</p>


11 posted on 08/18/2005 2:41:45 PM PDT by RAY ( Heroes not, the U.S. Supreme Court!!)
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To: steenkeenbadges
it's a novel argument, because as the article states he doesn't mention any specific bible references in the original essay, so it would be hard for him to say that he was discriminated against for his religious beliefs .

I think he was fired because of anti-christian diversity policies, BTW, but since his essay had no distinct religion tied to it, it will be hard to defend his stance in court

12 posted on 08/18/2005 2:56:04 PM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: Crackingham

How could Barber have embarrassed his employer if he doesnt directly say he works for them or directly say Allstate in his essay? Ihavent read his essay yet, but I am guessing, and I might be wrong, that thats the case.


13 posted on 08/18/2005 3:04:14 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: aft_lizard

I think the important thing is for us who have Allstate policies (as I do) to vote with our feet, and explain CLEARLY and LOUDLY to them why we are not doing business with them any longer.

My agent is going to get a polite but loud, clear and firm ear-full soon while I do seriously investigate alternatives. Now where's that GEICO junk mail I saved...


14 posted on 08/18/2005 3:30:51 PM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: Woodland

Who decided to spell 'fiery' this way?


15 posted on 08/18/2005 3:39:17 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Mr. Chambers! Don't get on that ship! The rest of the book, "To Serve Man", it's... it's a cookbook!)
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To: Woodland

Never will I sign up for Allstate Insurance- let the queers have it.


16 posted on 08/18/2005 3:42:37 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: aft_lizard

That was my first question. Did he write this online at work? Did he send it to other employees? Did he identify himself as an Allstate employee?

If he did none of those things then Allstate has gone overboard. If any of those are true then the company can fire him. Freedom of speech is guaranteed, he won't go to jail for it, but beyond that there are no guarantees.


17 posted on 08/18/2005 3:46:06 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Crackingham

Why take this tactic? We all know that the ONLY speech that does NOT seem to be protected is religious, scripture or not. Did he identify himself as an employee?


18 posted on 08/18/2005 3:46:56 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: Crackingham

Why take this tactic? We all know that the ONLY speech that does NOT seem to be protected is religious, scripture or not. Did he identify himself as an employee?


19 posted on 08/18/2005 3:47:13 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: InvisibleChurch

fier·y (fr, f-r) KEY

ADJECTIVE:
fier·i·er , fier·i·est

Consisting of or containing fire.
Burning or glowing.
Using or effected with fire.
Easily ignited; flammable.
Having the color of fire; brightly red: fiery hair; a fiery sunset.

Torridly hot.
Feverishly hot and flushed: fiery cheeks.
Being in an inflamed, usually painful condition: a fiery boil.

Easily excited or emotionally volatile; tempestuous: a fiery temper.
Charged with emotion; spirited: a fiery denunciation.



ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English firi, from fir, fire ; see fire

OTHER FORMS:
fieri·ly (Adverb), fieri·ness (Noun), fiery (Adverb)


20 posted on 08/18/2005 3:49:30 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Woodland
You're in dirty hands with Allstate.

Leni

21 posted on 08/18/2005 3:52:46 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: t2buckeye; Arkie2

He didn't identify himself as an employee, but the piece got published somewhere (online, I think) with a little italicized blurb at the bottom that said he was an Allstate employee.


22 posted on 08/18/2005 3:52:48 PM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: Woodland

"I'm thinking, `What business is this of yours?'" said Barber, 36, who had worked for Allstate for five years, mostly in corporate security. "This is something I did on my own time. This was my own viewpoint. ... [One supervisor] said, `Well, you know, here at Allstate we have a very diverse community.'"

Apparently not diverse enough to include those that do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle (no, I am not going to say "forced down their throats.....!) or practice free speech. It appears that eithe his supervisors or some co-worker probably made some complaint and Allstate had to roll over.

Conversely, if a publication printed his occupation without his permission, causing him damages, then he has a perfect right to pursue compensation from them. They should know better.


23 posted on 08/18/2005 4:09:43 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: paulat

you can't fool me; an etymologist studies bugs


24 posted on 08/18/2005 4:29:49 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Mr. Chambers! Don't get on that ship! The rest of the book, "To Serve Man", it's... it's a cookbook!)
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To: Liberty1970
My agent is going to get a polite but loud, clear and firm ear-full soon while I do seriously investigate alternatives. Now where's that GEICO junk mail I saved...

furthermore, when they send you anything with a postage paid return envelope, get a copy of Mr Barber's article and send it to them with a note explaining that since they fired him for publishing the truth then Allstate must be a pro-homosexual organization and you can't bring yourself to subsidize perversion by doing business with them.

25 posted on 08/19/2005 9:39:50 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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