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Officer Says 2 Others Are Source of His Atta Claims
Washington Post ^ | 8/19/2005 | Dan Eggen

Posted on 08/18/2005 7:47:30 PM PDT by americaprd

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To: lepton
Unless that resulted in a potential security breach, that seems a surprising thing to lose a security clearance for a year and a half.

Catherine Herridge reported in her first story about this that he had had his clearance suspended (over some phone incident), then reestablished, and he was promoted afterwards.

41 posted on 08/18/2005 8:25:59 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Refill with only real Kikkoman Soy Sauce)
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To: americaprd

Gorelick - one of those responsible for Atta getting way with it - is now a partner at Wilmer Cutler et al

jamie.gorelick@wilmerhale.com


42 posted on 08/18/2005 8:28:49 PM PDT by eleni121 (ual9fyiung for student aid nd taking clleg level course at the same time!)
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To: lepton
Shaffer's lawyer believes it was retribution for him talking to the 911
"commission". He spoke to the commission staff in Oct., 2003, and had his
sec. clearance yanked in March of 04.
43 posted on 08/18/2005 8:29:49 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Peach
Suspension was for 69.00 of forwarded phone calls at 25 cents a call, over 18 months The calls where official business that were forwarded to his cell phone and taken when he wasn't on duty.

The investigation cost about 400,000.00.

Normal bureaucratic efficiency.

BTW he was willing to pay.

44 posted on 08/18/2005 8:31:18 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: popdonnelly

I suspect current DoD and White House will also try to discredit him.

The wagons are circled.

The U.S. Govt. enabled the death of 3,000, and will do what it can to avoid accountability.


45 posted on 08/18/2005 8:45:23 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: eleni121

Gorelick was a Clintoon butt lick. She and Les Aspin--you will remember him--had their hands all over Bill's "Don't Ask Don't Tell" business also. She and the Clinton's are totally in bed together--either one or both of them most likely.


46 posted on 08/18/2005 8:52:07 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Hey, who made you so smart?! ;)

I enjoyed your take on things...hope much of what you said comes to pass.


47 posted on 08/18/2005 8:52:24 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: fantom

Yes this is very odd


48 posted on 08/18/2005 8:54:24 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

well now it's out that 'Capt Phillpott' already testified to the 9/11 Comm. that Atta was on the Able Danger chart... so this means this WAS told to them but they decided not to include it. Now they will have to take them seriously.


49 posted on 08/18/2005 8:56:21 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: americaprd
We'll hear a lot of people trying to downplay or discredit Able Danger for awhile. Pay no attention to the liberal behind the curtain.
This needs to play out, and a lot of pressure from the American people has to make sure that happens.
In my opinion, the way the left immediately reacted to the news tells the real story. There's something here. One liberal talking head on FOX actually "questioned the timing" rather than the message.
50 posted on 08/18/2005 8:56:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Peach
I thought I read the suspension was lifted; it was over like $60 worth of personal calls.

Locked your keys in your car ???? Did you know this??

If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone on your (or someone else's) cell phone.
Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the other person at your home press the unlock button of your key fob (clicker), holding it near the phone on their end.
Your car doors will unlock.
Saves someone from having to drive your keys to you.
Distance is no object you could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other "remote" for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk!).

51 posted on 08/18/2005 8:59:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: backhoe

{{{ ping }}}


52 posted on 08/18/2005 9:12:31 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: tomahawk

See #39


53 posted on 08/18/2005 9:21:53 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: I see my hands

Given that he's begun the process of wrecking his own story, I'd say his cat has already been kidnapped.


54 posted on 08/18/2005 9:32:25 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: americaprd

The rug is lifted; the broom is poised.


55 posted on 08/18/2005 9:37:31 PM PDT by luvbach1 (From the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Fabozz
Given that he's begun the process of wrecking his own story, I'd say his cat has already been kidnapped.

I think this story has more behind it. I'm going to be patient. Right now, there are a lot of people who would be willing to do anything to discredit or shut this guy up.
First, don't trust the press. They're going to try the old trick of confusion. It took years for people to find out Clinton was guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice. Most thought his impeachment was about sex because of all the spin going on at the time. Once the chaos died down, the word got out.
This needs to be taken slowly. One step at a time. We have to try to avoid the leftists trick of confusion or "muddying" the waters.

56 posted on 08/18/2005 9:44:30 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Just mythoughts; Peach
Wow, now it's time for Podhoretz to apologize to weldon.

Before this story really broke he was already naysaying and calling on weldon to apologize to the 9/11 commission.
57 posted on 08/18/2005 9:45:15 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Bayourod: FReeper enemy #1)
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To: pbear8
"Shaffer's cat will be kidnapped."

"And taken to Fort Marcy Park..."

Stuffed in an oven mitten.

58 posted on 08/18/2005 9:52:37 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: americaprd

" But he said he is relying on the word of Phillpott and the civilian employee, who pointed to one of the charts and said, "We had them."

I'm sure Hillary will go to the floor of the Senate and wave around this article, screeching " We had them."
Like she did with the false NY Post headline that Bush Knew.


59 posted on 08/18/2005 10:37:02 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: americaprd; concerned about politics
It seems to me that someone's going to have to produce the chart with Atta's name on it in order for the Able Danger charges to be taken seriously. From the end of the article:

Time magazine reported last week that Weldon said he is no longer sure that Atta was included on the chart he gave Hadley. But Weldon's chief of staff said yesterday that Atta was on the chart and that it was produced in 1999. Representatives for Hadley, who is now President Bush's national security adviser, have declined to comment on Weldon's claims

This part has made the least sense to me. If the chart given to Hadley included Atta, why wouldn't he have made a big deal about it when he went in front of the 9/11 Commission?
60 posted on 08/18/2005 10:37:42 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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