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Skip to comments.Two Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court Fight
Posted on 08/19/2005 9:25:31 AM PDT by RoyalsFan
By ANDREW POLLACK Published: August 19, 2005 DOUGLAS, Ariz., Aug. 18 - Spent shells litter the ground at what is left of the firing range, and camouflage outfits still hang in a storeroom. Just a few months ago, this ranch was known as Camp Thunderbird, the headquarters of a paramilitary group that promised to use force to keep illegal immigrants from sneaking across the border with Mexico.
Now, in a turnabout, the 70-acre property about two miles from the border is being given to two immigrants whom the group caught trying to enter the United States illegally.
The land transfer is being made to satisfy judgments in a lawsuit in which the immigrants had said that Casey Nethercott, the owner of the ranch and a former leader of the vigilante group Ranch Rescue, had harmed them.
"Certainly it's poetic justice that these undocumented workers own this land," said Morris S. Dees Jr., co-founder and chief trial counsel of the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which represented the immigrants in their lawsuit.
Mr. Dees said the loss of the ranch would "send a pretty important message to those who come to the border to use violence."
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Who was the Judge...Greer?
This guy better apeal this, the Illegals have no standing here what so ever. New way to own land, sneak across the border and have a judge take land away from a citizen and give it to an ILLEGAL alien. We need to take some drastic action on judges like this.
On the other hand, this article is from the New York slimes and may be entirely false or large parts of it anyway. It may be a made up story altogether.
We need to take some drastic action on Morris Dees and the SPLC.
Only one comment:
One man says to a second man: "Do you believe in the First Amendment freedom of speech?"
The second man says: "Of course I do."
The first man then asks: "Do you believe in the Second Amendment freedom to bear arms?"
The second man replies: "No, I don't."
The first man insists: "Then shut up!"
The moral of the story is: you can have your rights, but you have to protect and defend them, too.
This needs to be appealed, and these two need to be deported, along with Mr. Dees (the child pervert.)
I saw this in Fox News this morning. I couldn't believe it. Surely, this will be overturned on appeal.
Dupe thread same title over here:
The surrender of the ranch comes as the governors of Arizona and New Mexico have declared a state of emergency because of the influx of illegal immigrants and related crime along the border.
All someone has to do is demonstrate they can get more tax revenue for the land vis-a-vis Kelo v New London.
here is just a few of their vaunted efforts to allow the poor oppressed masses access to our courts and country.
The stampeding sound you're about to hear is from the throngs of illegals who just found a way to beat the system. Show up on a property, get yourself roughed up, hire a lawyer. This is just....I'm speechless.
Maybe thats the real plan here. The illegals, who now own a sizable and likely valuable piece of property will not be able to pay the taxes and the county seizes it, sells it, and gets the cash.
All your ranch are belong to us...
"This guy better apeal this, the Illegals have no standing here what so ever. New way to own land, sneak across the border and have a judge take land away from a citizen and give it to an ILLEGAL alien. We need to take some drastic action on judges like this."
According to Bush we are vigilantes and illegals are just looking for work. Bush and AG Gonzales are probably dancing a jig together over the news that American citizens are losing their property rights to illegals who have no rights here.
Works for me...
I was thinking it would be at least 5 years before the west went the way of Yugoslavia, The SW USA is a smoldering fire that our government is pouring gasoline on.
Shameful. This is an outrage. We cannot accept this kind of injustice. This is the reason the second amendment exists. When our government no longer acts in the best interest of its citizens, it's time we take our government back. It might just be time to get our guns.
Nethercutt is not popular with management here, but RR was a legitimate force trying to deal with illegals who were cutting across ranches and terrorizing owners in their houses, sometimes raping and robbing, always stealing anything that wasn't nailed down. Just another group of folks doing jobs the governmental entity refuses to do. And not the governmental entity has found a way to put them out of business.
This judge needs to be put out of business. Anybody know the name?
We are standing by as our nation is being flushed down the toilet. Makes one wonder why we are sending our troops to Irag to defend liberty while we are losing our liberty here.
Come on over, for you too can own another's property.
Pick fight, get lawyer, sue for property, gain property,
if I'm from south of the border.
Is this a great county or what?
Don't be surprised my fellow Americans, this is only the beginning. The worst is yet to come.
It seems from this picture, that GWB doesn't care much for Fox, but I could be reading it wrong.
I've seen it posted before and it bears repeating.
"The American people have no-one to turn to."
Blood in the Streets?
It's beginning to appear our so-called leaders are
paving the way for this to happen.
I wish Tony Snow would have had this information when he was talking to Richardson and Newt this morning.
Like the ACLU ...and many others...
Against all enemies.. both foreign and domestic
Now that the court has screwed this rancher, These destitute illegals can sell it for a very nice profit. They sure as heck can't pay the taxes. Or maybe the previous owner will be required to pay them for these poor illegals. BARF BARF BARF. Amen.
This could be a landmark case, a turning point for the anti-illegal invasion, and a turning point for the tolerance of groups that support illegals.
This is unreal.
Kinda a mini version of giving Israel to terrorists as a reward for murder, rape,torture,destruction...and now narco terrorism..
Half right: he just sensed that Fox is going for his wallet in his back pocket and is turning to the right to block him.
(But don't hold your breath for him to 'turn to the right' as our country suffers this invasion.)
Looking back at the past several years, I'd say it's quite believable.
It's a personal injury case -- the claim is that the rancher harmed them. If he did (and I guess that's what the trial found), then illegals have just as much right to sue over bodily harm as anybody else.
Just think, people are taking notes about our court system, and you can bet those looking at this case from south of the border are licking their chops.
Read the article again, it was a jury trial. I can almost 100% guarantee you it was a hispanic jury that found in their favor. Remember you dont have to have a unanimous vote in a civil proceeding. Same thing will happen over and over again as Hispanics bring their rascism, crime and corruption here.
further proof that our nation is insane
further proof that our nation is insane