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Hey, What's That Sound? (Dowd)
NY Times ^ | 8/20/05 | Maureen Dowd

Posted on 08/20/2005 3:11:55 PM PDT by Crackingham

Richard Nixon once gave me a lesson in the politics of war.

Howell Raines, then the Washington bureau chief for The Times, took some reporters to meet Mr. Nixon right before the 1992 New Hampshire primary. The deposed president had requested that Howell bring along only reporters who were too young to have covered Watergate, so we tried to express an excess of Juvenalia spirit.

Before the first vote of '92 was cast, Mr. Nixon laid out, state by state, how Bill Clinton, who was not even a sure bet for the Democratic nomination at that point, was going to defeat George Bush.

If, Mr. Nixon said, Bill could keep a lid on Hillary (who had worked on the House Judiciary Committee looking into the Nixon impeachment), he'd have it made.

"If the wife comes through as being too strong and too intelligent, it makes the husband look like a wimp," he said.

In his jaundiced view, the first President Bush had squandered his best re-election card: if the Persian Gulf war had still been going on, Mr. Bush could have been benefiting from that.

"We had a lot of success with that in 1972," Mr. Nixon told us, with that famously uneasy baring of teeth that passed for a smile.

Was he actually admitting what all the paranoid liberals had been yelping about 20 years earlier - that he had prolonged the Vietnam War so he could get re-elected?

Bush Senior made some Republicans worry that he left Iraq too soon. Bush Junior is making some Republicans worry that he is staying in Iraq too long.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dowd; howellraines; mandatorybarfalert; mba; nixon

1 posted on 08/20/2005 3:11:56 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

Bush left Iraq way to soon. That's why we had to go back.


2 posted on 08/20/2005 3:14:37 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Crackingham

"Hey, What's That Sound? (Dowd)"

It's the sound of your bones creaking, Maureen, you all bitter bag.


3 posted on 08/20/2005 3:15:07 PM PDT by NathanBookman (See the deer. Does the deer have a little dough?)
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To: NathanBookman

Make that "old" bitter bag.


4 posted on 08/20/2005 3:15:42 PM PDT by NathanBookman (See the deer. Does the deer have a little dough?)
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To: NathanBookman

No, no, no -- it's Michael Douglas' "ex" breaking wind...


5 posted on 08/20/2005 3:17:21 PM PDT by G-dzilla
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To: Crackingham

The NY Slimes tops the list in its writers (I won't dare to call them journalists)...barf bucket please.


6 posted on 08/20/2005 3:17:26 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Crackingham

Following proper protocol.

7 posted on 08/20/2005 3:17:40 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Crackingham
with that famously uneasy baring of teeth that passed for a smile.

And people like Tim Russert and Bob Scheiffer calmly tell us there is no left wing media bias, or that it "splits both ways".

8 posted on 08/20/2005 3:18:00 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Crackingham
It's 1972 and Modo is living her own real-life Groundhog Day never able to move forward, re-living and re-writing about it each day of her life.
9 posted on 08/20/2005 3:18:47 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: BulletBobCo
What a beautiful family they make now.

Another Blockbuster & Pizza nite for Mo., daydreaming about what could have been if only...

10 posted on 08/20/2005 3:21:06 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Crackingham

So old, bitter Mo is hearing the voices in her head again, eh?


11 posted on 08/20/2005 3:21:39 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: BulletBobCo
Here's proper protocol:


12 posted on 08/20/2005 3:23:31 PM PDT by raybbr (Go Willie. Go!!!)
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To: Crackingham

she is still crying about zeta jones meowww


13 posted on 08/20/2005 3:24:08 PM PDT by italianquaker (CONFIRM THE JUDGES BUSH=MANDATE)
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To: Crackingham

"If the wife comes through as being too strong and too intelligent, it makes the husband look like a wimp," he said.

So, in her warped mind, Michael dumping her was for the best after all? ;)


14 posted on 08/20/2005 3:26:23 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Jalapeno
Bush 41 listened to the over-rated Colin Powell, among others.
15 posted on 08/20/2005 3:29:30 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: raybbr

oh my ohmyohmyomy


16 posted on 08/20/2005 3:31:59 PM PDT by corkoman (Overhyped)
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To: raybbr

um, uh, I'm sorry, what were we talking about?


17 posted on 08/20/2005 3:34:51 PM PDT by DarkSavant (I touch myself at thoughts of flames)
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To: Crackingham

So let me get this straight: Bush Jr. is staying in Iraq to ensure a re-election he already won and can't run for again? Amazingly devious! Rove's best work yet!


18 posted on 08/20/2005 3:38:10 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: DarkSavant; corkoman
um, uh, I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

This help????


19 posted on 08/20/2005 3:39:51 PM PDT by raybbr (Go Willie. Go!!!)
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To: Crackingham
How Ignorant Is Maureen Dowd?

Posted by David Horowitz @ Saturday 20 August 2005, 11:47 am

Like the Bourbons the left forgets nothing and remembers nothing. In today’s column, Dowd runs over the Vietnam precedent for the Iraq war without a glimmer of acknowledgment that thanks to her and John Kerry and Jane Fonda and all the Cindy Sheehans and Michael Moores of the day, two and a half million Camobodians and Vietnamese were slaughtered at the hands of the Communists because the United States set a deadline and went home.

It is striking that the same people who ignored the warnings of the Nixon Adminisration that a bloodbath would follow an American withdrawal are thumbing their nose at that inevitability today in regard to Iraq. It is equally striking that neither the Bush Administration nor spokesmen on the war like Newt Gingrich are reminding "liberals" and the country at large of that grim result.

It amazing how fiercely the intellectual classes are wedded to the fantasy of reliving the bloodbath without the slightest awareness that that is what they are doing. The reason is obvious. They are even more wedded to the fantasy of their own righteousness and the false memory of those events that they have written into history. But then sacrificing thousands and millions to an abstract idea is what the left is all about.

20 posted on 08/20/2005 3:41:53 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: Crackingham

Bush Senior made some Republicans worry that he left Iraq too soon. Bush Junior is making some Republicans worry that he is staying in Iraq too long.




Michael obviously didn't stay in long enough.


21 posted on 08/20/2005 3:42:14 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Crackingham
"Hey, What's That Sound?

If its a Dowd column, its a bitter hag farting her thoughts out of a constipated mind!

22 posted on 08/20/2005 3:44:19 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: raybbr

After a few minutes I noticed she was sitting on a television, and on that TV screen is undoubtably the closing credits of the Tiny Toons show.


23 posted on 08/20/2005 3:45:44 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: Crackingham

 

Okay, it's overkill. So sue me.


24 posted on 08/20/2005 4:03:22 PM PDT by Fintan (If this tagline lasts longer than 4 hours, please consult a physician.)
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To: Crackingham

Like taking a vinegar and arsenic cocktail.


25 posted on 08/20/2005 4:15:09 PM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS..and so do liberal judges.)
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To: Fintan
my gawd...these pics are awesome :)

More more..

26 posted on 08/20/2005 4:16:59 PM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS..and so do liberal judges.)
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To: Calvin Locke
[Bush 41 listened to the over-rated Colin Powell, among others.]



Bush 41 listened to Powell, the U.N., and American journalists who all cried in unison "As long as the Iraqi military is pushed out of Kuwait, we can go ahead with our containment policy of Saddam Hussein and there is no need to intervene militarily."

Some of these same hypocrites are now saying "Bush 41 left the job unfinished when he didn't get Saddam Hussein in '91 when we had the chance".
27 posted on 08/20/2005 4:28:40 PM PDT by spinestein (The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
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To: Crackingham
"Hey, What's That Sound?"

That is the air sucking through that empty blob that's setting on Dowd's shoulders.

It's a wind tunnel effect. Goes in one ear and sucked out the other. Nothing of substance in between to slow it down.

28 posted on 08/20/2005 4:31:15 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Baseball Apple Pie And Mom")
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To: Fintan

I... I can't stand the Dowd columns... but I love the Zeta Jones pics... I'm so confused!


29 posted on 08/20/2005 4:36:38 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Crackingham

That sound is the sound of a left hand clapping...in a forest...in another dimension...


30 posted on 08/20/2005 4:37:08 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Crackingham

I believe posting Maureen Dowd columns is a form of masochism. I never read them.


31 posted on 08/20/2005 5:21:52 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly

Well, you don't have to READ the column, you only have to look at the pictures on the thread !


32 posted on 08/20/2005 5:29:57 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Okay, you've convinced me. Keep posting Dowd columns.


33 posted on 08/20/2005 5:56:16 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: raybbr

DAY-UM!

But, uh, I only read Dowd threads for the articles.


34 posted on 08/20/2005 6:03:24 PM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: Crackingham; Liz; Howlin; MurryMom
If, Mr. Nixon said, Bill could keep a lid on Hillary (who had worked on the House Judiciary Committee looking into the Nixon impeachment), he'd have it made.

Can the Hildabeast keep *Bubba zipped up?

35 posted on 08/20/2005 6:06:06 PM PDT by Libloather (Why are Democrats buried in nine foot graves? Deep down, they're good people...)
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To: Crackingham

The only reason that the American public might be a bit nervous about the war on terror in Iraq is because the leftists keep reporting only negative things. There is much good that we do not hear about if we just rely on those MSM mouthpieces of the rats. We need to finish this, and then move on to Syria and Iran.


36 posted on 08/20/2005 6:08:12 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: Crackingham

In his jaundiced view, the first President Bush had squandered his best re-election card: if the Persian Gulf war had still been going on, Mr. Bush could have been benefiting from that.

"We had a lot of success with that in 1972," Mr. Nixon told us, with that famously uneasy baring of teeth that passed for a smile.

This is how you know she's lying. How had LBJ and/or Humphrey done with the continuation of the war in 1968? How had Truman/ Stevenson done with the continuation of the Korean War in '52? Nixon would have factored these precedents and not have risked continuing the war for political gain.


37 posted on 08/20/2005 6:09:19 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Crackingham; cyborg
Hey, What's That Sound? (Dowd)

My (rather crude) guess? The crinkling sound of vaginal drying.

38 posted on 08/20/2005 6:09:21 PM PDT by Petronski (I stick to Rovian talking points: "I love Cyborg!")
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To: Jalapeno

Had Bush 1 gone on in Iraq, the leftists would have had a cow! That was not the objective of the allies either. A lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here.


39 posted on 08/20/2005 6:09:57 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: Fintan
So sue me.

No.







Baby got back. ;O)

40 posted on 08/20/2005 6:12:11 PM PDT by Petronski (I stick to Rovian talking points: "I love Cyborg!")
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To: raybbr
Wow! That's a CZJ photo I haven't seen before.

It's not that she has a Sophia Loren body or anything, it's just that somehow, she's able to put that extra zip into the camera. Quite the sexy beast.

Plus, like another favorite of mine, Diane Lane, she seems to get better looking as she matures.

41 posted on 08/20/2005 6:12:38 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: Crackingham
From Oxblog:
IMMUTABLE LAWS OF DOWD

1. Ashcroft never deserves credit.

2. Offering constructive solutions to problems, instead of whining endlessly about them, is a sign of weakness.

3. The People Magazine principle: all political phenomena can be explained with reference solely to caricatures of the personalities involved ("Dubya" is stupid; "Poppy" is an aristocrat; Cheney is macho-man; etc.). Any reference to the common good or even to old-fashioned politicking is, like, so passe.

4. It is much better to be cute than coherent.

5. Maureen knows best. Her long years as a columnist (doing basically what your great-aunt Tillie does in the nursing home bull sessions, but getting paid for it) have given her deep insight into foreign relations, politics, welfare, the Constitution, and all other topics. To disagree with Maureen in any way is not only a sign of being wrong, it's a hallmark of pure evil...or at least membership in the NRA, which is pretty much the same thing.

6. It is usually possible and always desirable to name-drop and name-call in the same sentence.

7. The particulars of my consumer-driven, shamefully self-involved life reveal universal truths.


Explanation of the Dowd/Douglas connection: by Miss Marple- 2/11/03

Ms. Dowd was escorted around New York and DC for many months by one Michael Douglas of Hollywood fame and fortune. She got to go to all the best parties, was photographed for the tabloids, and was picking out a gown to wear at the Oscars. Of course, Michael had become interested in her during Clinton's impeachment, when she had written some very anti-Clinton columns. After a few weeks of the Michael treatment, she began to write anti-Starr, anti-Newt columns, ignoring Clinton.

Then Clinton was acquitted by the Senate. In an amazing coincidence, Michael Douglas dropped Ms. Dowd like a hot potato, and instead picked up a hot tomato, Catherine Zeta-Jones, who subsequently bore him a son and they were married.

Ms. Dowd cannot get over her tragic loss. Her columns are increasingly anti-Bush, in the hope of impressing her lost love, Michael.

In addition, we think she has a secret crush on the President and is trying to get him to pay attention to her. Ha!

42 posted on 08/20/2005 6:13:03 PM PDT by ShorelineMike (Praesto, ergo sum.)
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To: perfect stranger
Ah, well, not to be rude but the correct quote is " The Bourbons forgot nothing and learned nothing"

This upon the restoration of Louis XVIII

43 posted on 08/20/2005 6:16:24 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Petronski

That happens when one turns into a bitter old crone.


44 posted on 08/20/2005 6:31:27 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
I see the point of difference.

Learning and remembering are two quite different tasks.

45 posted on 08/20/2005 6:45:49 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: ladyinred
No QB business at all. IMHO it is very obvious the reason why we had to go back is because we did not finish the job in the first place. I think we have paid 10 fold due to the decision. We obviously were more afraid of what would take his place.

I do not think GWB is staying to long. I think we will be there a long time to come.

46 posted on 08/20/2005 7:03:22 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: DefiantZERO
Amazingly devious! Rove's best work yet!

They'll never see it coming, until it is too late. Brilliant.

47 posted on 08/20/2005 8:10:41 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Crackingham

My bet is when we do leave Iraq the left will not be happy


48 posted on 08/20/2005 8:13:33 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
So, in her warped mind, Michael dumping her was for the best after all?

To me, the best indication of her minimal mental ability is that she went for that midget Michael Douglas at all.

49 posted on 08/20/2005 8:21:46 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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