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Thinkers Behind the Culture of Death (Part 1 or 3)
Catholic Online ^ | 11/12/2004 - 6:00 AM PST | www,Catholic.org

Posted on 08/20/2005 8:41:27 PM PDT by Murtyo

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To: Nateman
"There is a world of difference between your boss at work telling you to do something and a dictator of a nation giving you orders. (Your boss can't have you shot for example)"

I'm not so sure this is a fair analogy; because according to Rand my boss would be just another riffraff like myself, oozing with inherent depravity and in need of a real leader, (like herself).

41 posted on 08/20/2005 11:56:06 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: TheCrusader
just another riffraff like myself, oozing with inherent depravity

I don't know where you got this idea that she holds people as inherently deprived. I challenge you to find any quote from her that does!

42 posted on 08/21/2005 12:14:41 AM PDT by Nateman (Use truth in the attack: it works better!)
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To: Murtyo

Thanks!


43 posted on 08/21/2005 3:20:32 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Nateman

Bill Buckley had many arguments with Rand (and Kokak, for that matter). He'd never have published anything in NR that reflected her darker side--which was considerably darker than "Atlas Shrugged" or "The Fountainhead." But even there, it's obvious that she championed ends-justifying means and a capitalism that rivaled communism in its militancy and cruelty.


44 posted on 08/21/2005 3:28:16 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: TAdams8591

Second that. And Madeline Murray O'Hare. But they weren't philosophers, they were activists.


45 posted on 08/21/2005 3:31:47 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Nateman

The Fountainhead's pretty much drenched with the depravity of most of mankind, centered on the hatred and jealousy of the "great" among them.


46 posted on 08/21/2005 3:34:45 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Nateman

Not true at all. She certainly did believe that the great could and should dominate lesser beings. Again, her Fountainhead hero burns down a building (with no thought of nightwatchmen) because its banality offends him. Never mind, of course, that the protagonist rapes one of his early rivals!


47 posted on 08/21/2005 3:40:13 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Murtyo

I have not really been aware of a “culture of death”, so I Googled it. After reading several articles it would appear to me that the “Culture of Death” is the acceptance of Death.
Someone please correct me if I have this wrong – and I have no doubt this will occur. Let me make it plain that I am not defending Death, or questioning current religious thinking.
When I was young (mid 1940’s – mid 1960’s) Death was accepted as the inescapable result of Life. We knew that no one would ever got out of life alive. “Born to Die” was not just a tattoo on the arm of an Outlaw Biker but an accepted fact of life. Few people were hauled away by Death kicking and screaming. Birth control was not seen as destroying life but only as preventing life – a major difference.
Now it is different. Death is something to be avoided at all cost. Better to be a lying in a hospital bed as a human vegetable than to be dead. Better to send the family into medical bankruptcy than admit a member is really dead. Technology is Stronger than Death!
I could see this attitude for those who know they are going to Hell for all of eternity – but for the rest of us? There was a time when Christians actually looked forward to an eternity in Paradise! Note: Suicide was not an option – that was a guaranteed ticket to Hell.
I don’t see the Culture of Death as anything new, but as the paradigm of life that has been with us from Day One being rejected by Modern Man – a rejection of reality.


48 posted on 08/21/2005 3:59:37 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: TheSarce
Pinged from

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49 posted on 08/21/2005 4:10:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...

Please Freepmailme if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

50 posted on 08/21/2005 5:27:49 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: Murtyo

It struck me many years ago that minds unanchored in God are not just adrift but mad. This insight -- thank you, Lord! -- gets a daily workout as we observe the unending follies and delusions of the liberal class. If there is some new and creative way for them to be weird, mean, freaky, antisocial, naked or certifiable, they will find it faster than a dog finds a steak bone in its food dish.


51 posted on 08/21/2005 6:10:35 AM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: Murtyo; cpforlife.org
We are still trying, often with disastrous results, to answer the eternal question, "What is man?" ... ANSWER: A creation work in progress, for which the designer/builder has near infinite love yet so much love as to allow the object an input on the journey to 'completion'.
52 posted on 08/21/2005 6:12:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Murtyo

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53 posted on 08/21/2005 6:14:29 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: 8mmMauser
Thanks for the ping, 8mm. Well-written philosophy is red meat and fine wine. Paul Johnson's book, The Intellectuals, is similarly a resource in these questions. These secular "saviors" are usually the worst sort of bullies, crooks, wife beaters and fruitcakes in their private lives.
54 posted on 08/21/2005 6:14:53 AM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

She got her economics from the brilliant Ludwig von Mises. It is her own ideas that stank up the works.


55 posted on 08/21/2005 6:17:08 AM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg

You can't do everybody in one book, but Sanger is certainly a prime addition to the list. I'd put in Ernst Heinrich Philipp August Haeckel, who did the most to turn Darwinism into Auschwitz.


56 posted on 08/21/2005 6:25:10 AM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: Murtyo

Excellent post.


57 posted on 08/21/2005 6:30:19 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Thanks for the ping.


58 posted on 08/21/2005 6:30:59 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Murtyo

bump


59 posted on 08/21/2005 6:41:51 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: giotto
Any book that treats Helen Gurley Brown as a philosopher is probably not to be taken seriously.

Nail on head. It's pap.

60 posted on 08/21/2005 8:31:54 AM PDT by Poincare
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