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What ever happened to CONSERVATISM?
investmentrarities.com ^ | 8/16/05 | Jim Cook

Posted on 08/21/2005 10:29:42 AM PDT by Capitalism2003

BEST OF JIM COOK

August 16, 2005

HELPING TILL IT HURTS

By subsidizing the underclass we increase the risk of crime to ourselves and our families. The religious thinker Swedenburg wrote, "He who assists a poor or needy villain does evil to his neighbor... for through the assistance which he renders he .... supplies him with the means of doing evil to others." In other words, charity to bad people hurts good people.

How much government welfare goes to support villains? What percentage of support payments go to encourage delinquent parents to have children that will grow into villains? We don’t know the exact amount, but everyday experience indicates that it’s high. Certainly high enough to accuse the government of wrecking the lives of innocent citizens who suffer the consequences of rampant crime and social disorder. Furthermore, we have not begun to see a fraction of the problems that giving money to villains unleashes. That will come.

Subsidies that encourage unwed mothers mean that the least successful and most dysfunctional members of society have the highest birth rate. This intractable problem threatens order and promises to destabilize the future like nothing else. Our culture is being corrupted by eliminating the requirement to make one’s own way in life. The sorry consequences of subsidies qualify as a "danger from within" that Lincoln warned would be the one thing that could cause America to fail.

Why does the government make such blunders and do more damage with its well-meaning programs than it cures? For one thing, they practice liberal social policies. Liberalism is Americanized socialism. Every step towards socialism does damage to society. But that’s not the only reason that governments so often make a mess of what they do. For a number of reasons governments are incompetent. That’s not very reassuring, because they are in charge of the money, the banking system and the retirement and financial security of most of the people. To suggest that they will likely mismanage all of this in the worst possible way has profound implications for all of us.

In business there is profit or loss to determine success or failure. Government has no similar yardstick to measure results. They have no objective means of economic calculation to determine the worth of their activities. There’s no bottom line. That means there is no incentive for cost cutting or sound financial management in government. Quite the opposite, bureaucrats feel it’s necessary to increase budgets and spend more.

Government has far more rules and regulations than private concerns because the law imposes restrictions on government. There is little room for discretion or independent thinking. Rigid and inflexible government policies destroy innovation and creativity. It’s hard to get anything done, and frustrating delays are endemic to the system.

Government employees move up the ladder through educational credentials rather than merit. People are given jobs and promotions based on seniority, race and gender rather than ability or talent. Such a system often overlooks the deserving and rewards the incompetent. There is no payoff for achievement. Politicians often promise to make government more efficient but it’s a vain hope. These bureaucratic organizations that control so much of our lives are all too often dangerously incompetent. If you’re relying on the government for your happiness or prosperity, you stand to be disappointed. Big government inevitably leads to failure.


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Though I believe the author is a Libertarian, I'm sure conservatives can agree with these points. It's time we remember what has always made the Republican party great...the firm belief in LIMITING the power of this inefficient monster (and parasite) we call government.

Ronald Reagan would be very disappointed with what we are seeing in the GOP today.

Debt to the penny: 08/18/2005 $7,925,741,499,921.91 http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

1 posted on 08/21/2005 10:29:42 AM PDT by Capitalism2003
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To: Capitalism2003

Most conservatives make an exception for the biggest big government program of all, war. Why expect that when we get into combat formerly inept bureaucrats will become efficient? Maybe contracting out more of our defense efforts than we currently do would give us a better defense at a lower cost.


2 posted on 08/21/2005 10:39:28 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: Capitalism2003

I didn't leave the Republican party, The Republican party left me.


3 posted on 08/21/2005 10:40:14 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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To: Capitalism2003

Which US GOP Senators are going to Crawford?
They have the time off work and can well afford to buy airline tickets.
Which GOP Governors will be in attendance?
The next President of the United States will be there
and I'll vote for him or her
because they supported our troops when they need it the most.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 10:42:05 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: Stirner
Most conservatives make an exception for the biggest big government program of all, war. Why expect that when we get into combat formerly inept bureaucrats will become efficient? Maybe contracting out more of our defense efforts than we currently do would give us a better defense at a lower cost.

President Bush's non-Defense and Homeland Security budget is also the biggest ever, and he has not vetoed a single spending bill.

5 posted on 08/21/2005 10:46:00 AM PDT by DeeOhGee (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"I didn't leave the Republican party, The Republican party left me."

I am the center of my universe, too. Everyone should get back in line with my ideas, if you ask me.

6 posted on 08/21/2005 10:46:37 AM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: Capitalism2003
I get it, but even helping the "needy villan" is called for in the name of "Christian charity"...

When we are called to exalt, or make excuses for the "needy villan" -- to which the pop-psyche "profession" has taught contemporary man - then Houston, we have a problem.

7 posted on 08/21/2005 10:49:45 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Capitalism2003

What ever happened to correct CAPITALIZATION OF WORDS?


8 posted on 08/21/2005 10:51:02 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2

That "reminds" me of the "old" Chris Farley routine "on" Saturnday Night Live where he "used" his fingers to indicate quotes around "words" but always used them "wrong".


9 posted on 08/21/2005 10:53:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Capitalism2003
The current so called Compassionate Conservative republican sitting in the White House is a far cry from what Reagan, George Sr. and Richard Nixon were for their party. He is both inept and a follower being driven by the NEOCON warlords he mistakenly appointed. Little by little real conservative republicans are realizing they were duped by this man. These are the drops you are seeing in the polls.

Pat Buchanan was the first to see what GWB is really all about and what he would be doing to our country if elected. God help us, he was even re-elected.
10 posted on 08/21/2005 10:54:31 AM PDT by richwolo
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To: SteveMcKing

If someone expects me to trudge down to the polls and vote for them, they ought to give me a reason.

Being ever so miniscully less evil than Hellary is not enough.


11 posted on 08/21/2005 10:58:48 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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To: richwolo

Would you have preferred to have Kerry leading this war?

Consider what happened to Cambodia and South Vietnam when we went in, then pulled out without setting in place a stable government. Over 3 Million civilians were slaughtered. 3 Million .... that is half of the Holocost.

Contrast this to what happened in Japan and German when we pulled out. We go in, we dismantle an evil goverment, and replace it with a Democratic and STABLE goverment; or else we'll be going back in there to fight again in just a few years.


12 posted on 08/21/2005 11:00:28 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Capitalism2003

Forced charity is a contradiction in terms.


13 posted on 08/21/2005 11:00:47 AM PDT by TradicalRC (In vino veritas. Folie a Deaux, Menage a Trois Red 2003.)
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To: richwolo

Bush may be in "charge", but he has handlers.


14 posted on 08/21/2005 11:05:31 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: richwolo
The current so called Compassionate Conservative republican sitting in the White House is a far cry from what Reagan, George Sr. and Richard Nixon were for their party.

I'm puzzled that you would rank Elder Bush and Nixon with Ronald Reagan. Elder Bush spoke of the "New World Order" coming to pass and Nixon was a Rockefeller puppet.

15 posted on 08/21/2005 11:05:37 AM PDT by Nephi (Globalism is incompatible with originalism.)
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To: richwolo

No kidding. Real conservatives ought to notice that politicians are only paying them lip service.


16 posted on 08/21/2005 11:06:20 AM PDT by TradicalRC (In vino veritas. Folie a Deaux, Menage a Trois Red 2003.)
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To: Capitalism2003
An affluent, prosperous country that's won a big war and considers itself the number one world power tends to be more accepting of government spending than a poorer country. If it's involved in another ongoing world struggle it will be even less inclined to curb spending. A lot gets justified as necessary to win the current war, or as the fruits of victory in the last one.

Reagan's successes were a result of the fact that the country had to get its economy, budgets, and money supply under control. We had to come to terms with the problems brought out by the 1960s and 1970s.

We'll probably see another "day of reckoning" like that soon, but our situation now is reminiscent of the Eisenhower-Kennedy years four or five decades ago. On the one hand, being involved in a global struggle brings greater respect for government and acceptance of social programs. On the other hand, people think a degree of fiscal and moral laxity is justified and excused by our victory in the Cold War and success in the global economy.

17 posted on 08/21/2005 11:09:00 AM PDT by x
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To: Capitalism2003
Liberalism is Americanized socialism

Truer words were never spoken.

I don't care how good the intentions, government has NO lawful authority to take one person's hard earned money and distribute it to others that are too lazy/shiftless/stupid to earn their own.

Leave charitable works to the charities.

18 posted on 08/21/2005 11:09:32 AM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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To: Nephi
Rockefeller puppet? First time have ever seen that one.

Nelson nearly snuck in as president after Agnew and Nixon were run out of town, all he needed was for someone to eliminate Ford. Golly what a coincidence, someone did try to bump off Ford two or three times. One coincidence after another.

19 posted on 08/21/2005 11:11:31 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Nephi

Rockefeller ruined the GOP. Me thinks he and the spooks had a hand in Reagan's assassination attempt too.


20 posted on 08/21/2005 11:13:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: MamaTexan
Mama....I would be willing to bet a Texas steer that somewhere along the line you or your family have benefited from government largess...
21 posted on 08/21/2005 11:16:56 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: richwolo
God help us, he was even re-elected. Yeah, too bad - Kerry was the right man for the job.
22 posted on 08/21/2005 11:23:49 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Capitalism2003

Government employees move up the ladder through educational credentials rather than merit. People are given jobs and promotions based on seniority, race and gender rather than ability or talent. >>>>>>>>>>

This is dead on the money, unfortunately it is not just the government, the same thing happens more than we care to admit in private industry. Anyone who has worked for large companies has seen the phenomenon of highly capable people working for someone who really should be at the bottom rather than managing others.


23 posted on 08/21/2005 11:25:12 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Acceptance of irrational thinking is expanding exponentiallly.)
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To: TradicalRC

Forced charity is a contradiction in terms.>>>>>>>>>

Obviously you flunked politically correct groupthink!


24 posted on 08/21/2005 11:27:46 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Acceptance of irrational thinking is expanding exponentiallly.)
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To: RipSawyer
As a government drone I can verify the promotion ladder. I could never get anyone fired or dismissed. The only way was to get them transferred off onto someone else. With an attitude like that I remained near the bottom rung, close enough that if I fell off I would not get bruised.

Working for the Federal government was the easiest and hardest job I ever had. Go with the tide was easy. Swim against the tide and you were in trouble. I was always in trouble.

25 posted on 08/21/2005 11:40:12 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: TradicalRC
"Forced charity is a contradiction in terms."

Thank you, thank you for that bit of wisdom often overlooked by individuals and even churches.

All those who here decry the present Administration can surely recognize the fact that "forced charity" (redistribution of wealth) is the hallmark and tyrannical tool for obtaining votes of the Democratic Party. Therefore, would Gore or Kerry/Edwards have been a better choice, and where would we be if they had succeeded Clinton? Where does that leave you as a citizen and voter? This President inherited a mess, contrary to Democratic spin.

We must remind ourselves that 9/11 happened. Radicals declared war on America long before the current President took office in January 2001. Repeated attacks evoked no appropriate responses. Indeed, the so-called terrorists were given adequate time to infiltrate our shores, establish cells, train their puppets and conduct clandestine operations that resulted in attacks within our borders.

The President who has had to deal with the results is not perfect, and neither is the Congress, but we must remind ourselves of our history and of the choices our most recent elections offered.

26 posted on 08/21/2005 11:48:53 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: MamaTexan

NO lawful authority to take one person's hard earned money and distribute it to others that are too lazy/shiftless/stupid to earn their own.

Leave charitable works to the charities.



So true. Bible says if a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat.
What's that saying - teach a man to fish and he will never go hungry, give a man fish and he will be back again.

The government works for us - that's the way it was set up - civil servants - BUT what a lie that is, we WORK five months out of the year FOR the government to keep those deep pockets filled.

How twisted it has all turned out. Instead of "WE the People" it's "WE the servants".


27 posted on 08/21/2005 12:02:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: cynicom
I would be willing to bet a Texas steer that somewhere along the line you or your family have benefited from government largess...

Nor would you be in error.

The difference being that:

1. I was not on it any longer than I absolutely HAD to be.

2. I did not take everything I 'qualified' for...really ticked off my caseworker too. She couldn't believe I turned down *free* stuff!

But that STILL doesn't change the truth of my original post, so what's your point?

28 posted on 08/21/2005 12:50:41 PM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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To: presently no screen name
How twisted it has all turned out. Instead of "WE the People" it's "WE the servants".

Probably because our government has changed the (legal) meaning of words like 'Citizen' while we weren't even looking!

29 posted on 08/21/2005 1:05:16 PM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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To: MamaTexan
Mama...thank you for being honest....

Not really a point. I was brought up during the depression. there was no handout, there was no handup. We were neither lazy or stupid.

Someone here asked me to give my definition of poverty. I replied, "Hunger day after day is poverty"...

Perhaps we were stupid for being in that situation but I can assure you it was difficult to survive. We never asked for anything and were never given anything.

I try to temper my conservatism with this thought, conservatism is not all good and socialism is not all bad.

A child working in the fields all day under the hot sun, his pay being his dinner, does tend to make one be a bit more tolerant.

30 posted on 08/21/2005 1:11:30 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Perhaps we were stupid for being in that situation but I can assure you it was difficult to survive.

True. My mother was raised in the Depression as well, and she taught us to be thrifty, because you never knew when that little bit you saved today would be ALL that you had tomorrow.

As beneficial as government charity can be in some cases, the 'habit' becomes a lifestyle for some, and it's not within the powers of government in the first place.

(Don't know if you're aware of it or not, but the Depression was caused by government meddling in the monetary supply.)

I wasn't trying to imply poor people are poor because they're stupid either...sorry if it came across that way! :)

31 posted on 08/21/2005 1:22:35 PM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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To: MamaTexan
Mama...

Nope, didn't take it like that at all. Was not trying to be critical.

Monetary????? During the depression???? We sure were aware of it because we had none.

Thrift?? Better believe that.

FDR found out that the way to re election was via the Federal treasury and he was correct. Since that time we have been on a fast track for socialism.

32 posted on 08/21/2005 1:33:38 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: MamaTexan

Thanks, MamaTexan. FR University at it's best.

It'll take some time to finish reading.


33 posted on 08/21/2005 2:12:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Funny how Republicans have reflexive tendency to defend Nixon. I could care less about Watergate. We have Nixon to thank for the EPA, OSHA and he flirted with wage and price controls.

MILTON FRIEDMAN: "Nixon was the most socialist of the presidents of the United States in the 20th century. "PBS Commanding Heights interview

I rank him as the fourth most destructive president after Woodrow Wilson, FDR and LBJ. Thanks to a Republican congress, Clinton was saved from himself and ranks fifth, in my book.

34 posted on 08/21/2005 4:59:31 PM PDT by Nephi (Globalism is incompatible with originalism.)
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To: Capitalism2003

Read later bump. But like Ferris Buehler, I have a bias against "isms".


35 posted on 08/21/2005 6:26:23 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: Stirner

I believe the Cato institute did a study showing that NON-defense spending is up over 12% annually under Bush.


36 posted on 08/21/2005 8:44:45 PM PDT by Capitalism2003
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To: cynicom

To: cynicom During the depression there was no hand-out or hand-ups? Perhaps you were sleeping. What about WPA, PWA, TVA, CCC camps,etc. These programs definitely were a hand-up. Which ones did you participatre in? I have yet to talk with survivors of the depression and hear that they didn't receive government help or some sort. Of course there were lazy and stupid people. They didn't just disappear because times were hard.


37 posted on 09/13/2005 6:10:19 AM PDT by ramblin ruth
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To: Capitalism2003
What ever happened to CONSERVATISM?

Ask the RINOs who've hijacked the GOP.

38 posted on 09/13/2005 6:11:47 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: ramblin ruth
Sleeping??? Thank you for your civility and demeaning language. I suspect you were not there.

In any event, what you suggest RERQUIRED WORK, there was no handout of a check in the mail. Handup??? You jest. Those that had, made sure you stayed in your place at all times.

If you have known of hunger, you may decide who was sleeping or stupid or whatever, if you have not, it is easy to make demeaning remarks.

39 posted on 09/13/2005 6:49:39 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Capitalism2003
"He who assists a poor or needy villain does evil to his neighbor... for through the assistance which he renders he .... supplies him with the means of doing evil to others." In other words, charity to bad people hurts good people.

The people of Cape Cod will be finding this out. They got eight sex offenders and untold numbers of felons from New Orleans. That's out of 250.

40 posted on 09/13/2005 7:18:31 AM PDT by ladyjane
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