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Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
LOS ANGELES TIMES ^ | 12-5-2001 | MANSOOR IJAZ

Posted on 08/21/2005 7:21:12 PM PDT by TruthFactor

President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.

I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedossier.ukonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; binladen; clinton; clintonlegacy; gwot; osamabinladen; sandyberger; sudan; waronterror; wot
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I'm watching the National Geographic's otherwise good documentary called "Inside 9/11". However, they have skipped over this important piece of information regarding Clinton's culpability in what happened....

How and why they ignored this is why no one trusts the MSM any longer.

1 posted on 08/21/2005 7:21:12 PM PDT by TruthFactor
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To: TruthFactor

This is news?


2 posted on 08/21/2005 7:23:12 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: TruthFactor

So glad Monsour is still willing to fight this battle again! He has been trying to get this word out for years now.


3 posted on 08/21/2005 7:23:46 PM PDT by chgomac (Cindy says this is all about Casey)
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To: chgomac

Richard Miniter's book "Losing bin Laden" should be required reading for anyone who needs reminding that this country took an eight year holiday from national security in the nineties, for which we are paying the price now.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 7:25:48 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: TruthFactor

One trick of the left is to print old news like they just heard about it.


5 posted on 08/21/2005 7:25:48 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's code and found a terrorist message.)
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To: TruthFactor
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.

A Carter like coward.

6 posted on 08/21/2005 7:26:10 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: bmwcyle

What's in this article is common knowledge to us. But, the Nation Geographic special that is being broadcast as I write this has completely skipped over these facts.

I am completely P.O.'ed that they can ignore Clinton's guilt and culpability in this regard.


7 posted on 08/21/2005 7:30:00 PM PDT by TruthFactor (A mind is a terrible thing to waste with a PC Education.)
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To: chgomac
So glad Monsour is still willing to fight this battle again!

Mansoor Ijaz is no longer on FOX as one of their many 'consultants' because.....because he just makes it up as he goes.

He's best ignored. He'll tell ya what ya wanna hear, but that's 'zackly where it ends. His prediction quotient, from from I can gather, runs neck and neck with Joe at the Texaco Station.

8 posted on 08/21/2005 7:30:30 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: TruthFactor
I'm watching the National Geographic's otherwise good documentary called "Inside 9/11". However, they have skipped over this important piece of information regarding Clinton's culpability in what happened....

Just mentioned Able Danger.

9 posted on 08/21/2005 7:30:35 PM PDT by neodad (I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way)
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To: pcottraux

I can see it coming up, they have ignored Clinton's culpability for Osama and terrorism, but will show all sorts of "signs" that Bush should have known about 9/11 in early 1991.


10 posted on 08/21/2005 7:32:00 PM PDT by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: neodad

Just mentioned Able Danger

what did they say about it?


11 posted on 08/21/2005 7:39:39 PM PDT by tazannie
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To: TruthFactor
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.

Im still wonderin' how and when will America discipline this irresponsible and traitor leader.

But for sure he is suffering the agony of guilt these days...

12 posted on 08/21/2005 7:41:15 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: TruthFactor; All; Thebaddog

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Ever since the day after the Attacks of 9/11 I have not been avoiding, here on Freerepublic.com and in Talk Radio/TV Calls, MONSOOR IJAZ's 9/12 FoX News Channel Announcement that the CLINTON White House had refused 3 Free Offers he had negotiated with the Sudan during the 1990's to give us OSAMA bin LADEN on Silver Platter.

In 1999 my fellow Battle of IA DRANG-1965 Veteran RICK RESCORLA even predicted his own death at the hands of Muslim Extremists ...as head of Security for Morgan Stanley's World Trade Center Tower II middle 20 stories.

See: 'The Man Who Predicted 9/11 - RICK RESCORLA'

The History Channel
September 11, 2005
9pm ET/PT, 8pm CT

...and nationwide that same day on Great Britain's Channel Four TV Network.

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361
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13 posted on 08/21/2005 7:48:53 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ChristianDefender

Re:guilt-I've been wondering the same thing. Perhaps he's taking solace in the presence of Bush Sr. as a father figure? How touching.


14 posted on 08/21/2005 7:49:51 PM PDT by eddiemunster
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To: TruthFactor

It's about time Mansoor resurfaced! He's been absent since the Iraq war started.


15 posted on 08/21/2005 7:50:15 PM PDT by rintense
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To: ChristianDefender

"""But for sure he is suffering the agony of guilt these days..."""

Isn't that the American way?

Look what they did to Slobodan Milosevich.


16 posted on 08/21/2005 7:50:56 PM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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To: ChristianDefender

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CLINTON/HILLARY:

On the side of our Terrorist Enemy HO CHI MINH during the Vietnam War

On the side of our Terrorist Enemy OSAMA bin LADEN now

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17 posted on 08/21/2005 7:51:24 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: TruthFactor

The only thing Mr. Clinton was concerned with while in the white house and presently is how much work his willie was getting.


18 posted on 08/21/2005 7:55:18 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: TruthFactor

Yes, I watched the program and as usual MSNBC puts the blame on GW. They show Clinton in a suit and tie, but GW at his ranch cutting wood when he was given an alert that terrorists were planning an imminent attack on the U.S.


19 posted on 08/21/2005 8:01:27 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Senator Goldwater

I don't need the reminder....but will keep an eye out for that book.


20 posted on 08/21/2005 8:02:33 PM PDT by chgomac (Cindy says this is all about Casey)
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To: ErnBatavia

Really? I didn't know that! I saw him several years ago on the tv and he detailed how he had tried to get someone in the Clinton administration to get Bin Laden. He sounded sincere.


21 posted on 08/21/2005 8:04:32 PM PDT by chgomac (Cindy says this is all about Casey)
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To: TruthFactor

I didn't realize that we were going to hit Bin Laden in his camp but saw a swing set and decided against it thinking there were children in the camp. It tells me that those who order hits need to get thicker skin. Those same "children" in the 90's have grown up to be terrorists taking shots at our military. We would have done better to wax them and cry about it later.


22 posted on 08/21/2005 8:12:00 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: TruthFactor; All

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Some of ALOHA RONNIE's previous MONSOOR IJAZ Freerepublic Threads:

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/694455/posts

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117043/posts

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1106808/posts

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23 posted on 08/21/2005 8:12:21 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: neodad
Just mentioned Able Danger.

I'm not sure but I thought I heard them say that Atta was identified but the FBI was not allowed to be notified. Is this not what Col Shaeffer has been saying? How did National Geographic no about it and if so --and here is the question-- why was this not in the 9/11 commissions final report?

24 posted on 08/21/2005 8:21:57 PM PDT by sydbas
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(in Arkansas accent) That depends on what your definition of the word terrorist is.


25 posted on 08/21/2005 8:23:53 PM PDT by Tim Long
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To: sydbas
Just mentioned Able Danger.

I'm not sure but I thought I heard them say that Atta was identified but the FBI was not allowed to be notified. Is this not what Col Shaeffer has been saying? How did National Geographic know about it and if so --and here is the question-- why was this not in the 9/11 commissions final report?

Sorry I meant know instead of no. In too much of a hurry to post.

26 posted on 08/21/2005 8:26:08 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: sydbas

The veil on the 9/11 commission is slowly being lifted and it doesn't look pretty. #1 rule of a democratic member of the commission, deflect all blame away from the Clinton admin. #1 rule of a republican member of the commission, don't upset the democratic members, it may make you look bad.


27 posted on 08/21/2005 8:37:51 PM PDT by TruthFactor (A mind is a terrible thing to waste with a PC Education.)
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To: TruthFactor
The veil on the 9/11 commission is slowly being lifted and it doesn't look pretty. #1 rule of a democratic member of the commission, deflect all blame away from the Clinton admin. #1 rule of a republican member of the commission, don't upset the democratic members, it may make you look bad.

I'm not sure what to make of the 9/11 National Geographic Special yet. At the end I found myself just madder at the terrorists. They seemed to take some shots at Clinton: saying he had a couple of chances to get Bil Laden but didn't because they were afraid of civilian casualties but they also made it seem like the impeachment hearings were a distraction to Clinton and then they seemed to take a shot at President Bush for being on vacation in August of 2001. They neglected to mention that the Sudan offered Bin Laden to Clinton before he moved to Afghanistan. Again overall at the end I just found myself madder at the terrorists scumbags.

28 posted on 08/21/2005 8:49:05 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: sydbas

The program had a segment about what I assume were intelligence officers working at McDill Air Force Base in Florida. They had a chart of terrorist suspects that included pictures of Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi. They concluded they couldn't share this information since the persons were in the United States on valid visas. I would love to know National Geographic's sources for this part of the story, since it dovetails with what Lt. Col Shaffer has been saying about the Able Danger id. The people at McDill had to get the chart from somewhere. I smell a hot story here.


29 posted on 08/21/2005 9:03:00 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: ncountylee
A Carter like coward.

Remind me of Richard Gere-types.

30 posted on 08/21/2005 9:10:12 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (Political Correctness lowers your IQ)
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To: TruthFactor
I am completely P.O.'ed that they can ignore Clinton's guilt and culpability in this regard.

It's the same old Clinton coverup which continues unabated.

Afterall the Clintons are the Dems favorite two scumbag scalawags!

It will likely never end during their(Clintons') lives.

Ugh puke, sickening isn't it?

31 posted on 08/21/2005 10:49:45 PM PDT by VOYAGER
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To: TruthFactor
WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?


32 posted on 08/22/2005 6:33:25 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Senator Goldwater
bump!

Hear Richard Miniter

 


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WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?


33 posted on 08/22/2005 6:40:41 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

"""WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?"""

What prior president DIDN'T ignore terrorism?


34 posted on 08/22/2005 11:27:33 AM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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To: Senator Goldwater
Richard Miniter's book "Losing bin Laden" should be required reading for anyone who needs reminding that this country took an eight year holiday from national security in the nineties, for which we are paying the price now.

I totally agree!

35 posted on 08/22/2005 11:28:48 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; VPMWife78; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; xflisa; ...
FoxFan ping!

Article by MANSOOR IJAZ - frequent Fox News contributor.

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

36 posted on 08/22/2005 11:30:33 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: nutmeg
That was an excellent book. Also a must read Dereliction of Duty by Buzz Patterson.
37 posted on 08/22/2005 11:30:52 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; Doctor Raoul; ELS; ...

ping!


38 posted on 08/22/2005 11:32:08 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: RedwineisJesus

"What prior president DIDN'T ignore terrorism? "
Um Ronald Reagan for one - attacked Libya after the bombings, he captured the Achille Laru (sp?) terrorists by sending Nato jets to intercept the Egyptian airliner that was attempting to ferry them back to friendly nations.


39 posted on 08/22/2005 11:34:05 AM PDT by DM1
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To: TruthFactor

Terrorism was not on the radar in any of the Presidential debates. Clinton and predecessors can be faulted as can Bush for taking his eye of bin Laden and going for Saddam.

The same point can be made now for China. The long range view of politicans is the next election.


40 posted on 08/22/2005 11:35:59 AM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: Mia T
Glad to see you're on the case, Chief Inspector.
41 posted on 08/22/2005 11:36:30 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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To: TruthFactor
However, they have skipped over this important piece of information regarding Clinton's culpability in what happened....

What do you expect? It was National Geographic who hired the notorious saddamite, Peter Arnett, to work on a documentary on Iraq. Public outrage forced them to fire him after he appeared on Iraqi state TV badmouthing the US.

42 posted on 08/22/2005 11:46:37 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (It is Watergate yet? Is it Watergate yet?)
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To: nutmeg

I agree as well.


43 posted on 08/22/2005 12:08:04 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: defconw
Also a must read Dereliction of Duty by Buzz Patterson.

Thanks. I'll check that out ASAP. (I have a long "to read" list...) ;-)

44 posted on 08/22/2005 12:08:47 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: KeyLargo

We're suckers. Party politics always wins out. We won't slam our guy, they won't slam their guy. That's how they get away with it, time and time again.


45 posted on 08/22/2005 12:11:08 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: backhoe


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Please see my Post No. 13...


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46 posted on 08/22/2005 12:17:26 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Copied & saved. and I will pass that on. Thanks.


47 posted on 08/22/2005 12:25:33 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: nutmeg

For a more positive read on what President Bush has done Shadow War by Richard Miniter, will make you feel better after you get done screaming about Clinton, at least temporarily!


48 posted on 08/22/2005 12:33:52 PM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: ErnBatavia

There is an audio tape of Clinton admitting his muffing a chance to get Bin Laden at least once.


49 posted on 08/22/2005 1:01:29 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: DM1

"""Um Ronald Reagan for one ..."""

Bill Clinton blew up few terrorists also ... but yes I agree, there was plenty of evidence that he had a propensity to witdraw too soon.

It just about cost him his job.


50 posted on 08/22/2005 1:27:47 PM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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