Posted on 08/22/2005 11:13:09 AM PDT by Charlesj
Iraq draft says laws must conform to Islam -text
BAGHDAD, Aug 22 (Reuters) - A draft constitution for Iraq to be presented to parliament on Monday will make Islam "a main source" for legislation and ban laws that contradict religious teachings, members of the parliamentary drafting panel said.
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Is there some strategy here? I can't help but thinking this is very bad... maybe the polls are reflecting this? People supported the war that was supposed to bring freedom.. not the war that was going to install an Islamic dictatorship..
What was the point of liberating Iraq if we're just helping to install another Islamic theocracy?
So what the heck does this mean?
Sharia law by default?
Before you democrats chuckle, I wouldn't vote you in office on a bet.
I have come to the conclusion that Muslims are incapable of living in a democracy.
You left out the part where there are two sources that new laws must be checked out against... Islamic Law and Democratic principles/human rights.
Also, the Islamic principles the vague language they used leaves a lot of room for interpretation.
I've come to the conclusion that all of them have lead poisoning in some degree or another.
Inshallah, Allahu Akbar.
America as the midwife of a Sharia state.
Goodness.
Did people think the Iraqi legislators would dawn powdered wigs and draft on constitution based on Christian ideology like our founding Fathers did?
Really.....Some of the people in here are real pieces of work. Your not going to have a secular society with a deeply religious people. As for the Sadam comment, PU
Seriously. Why is anyone surprised? Iraqi democracy is not going to be like American democracy. The vast, vast majority of Iraqis are Muslim. Is it surprising that they want their new constitution to reflect their values?
They said Islam is "A" main source, not "THE" main source;
that leaves room for a lot of interpretation.
(At least, that's what I'm hoping. . .)
So that's what 1800 soldiers died for. F&$# 'em. Let's get out of that country and kick the Islamofascists out of ours.
>>ban laws that contradict religious teachings,
So much for ladies bare limbs, or barbers who shave beards, video stores showcasing hollywood/bollywood, or liquor stores.
The days of having a beer and fried fish on the banks of the Tigris, with a woman companion dressed in a western outfit in the most secular, technocratic society of the Muddled East are over.
Too bad we've abandoned the secularists and modernists.
Well its no longer a question bring the boys home...No sense being there if their not protecting freedom, because they are officially not now.
the war is officially a failure.
I am hopeful too. It seems like an important compromise was reached. The important word above is "widely." Also, it gives human rights and values of democracy equal footing. Remember, women make up 60% of Iraq. I doubt they would want to have Sharia law imposed. I think Reuters wants to put the worse spin on it. I believe Iraq will turn out much better than the leftist MSM will ever admit.
Iran Junior. Wonderful.
Well, then, just fookem! We should have just given them a great big glass parking lot. I have no more compassion left, for anyone's kids, but mine.
They claim to be an ancient civilization, but, they ain't progressed a decade beyond their starting point, could be that it is the best they can do. Don't show me any more pictures of pitiful,little,abused, and neglected babies,my emotions are focused on my own.
All this and what do we get? The beginnings of a theocracy. Don't worry, I'm sure Bush will try to spin this over the next week. Isn't the plan over the next 5 days to presents even better excuses for the police action?
I think it's more the rampant consanguinity combined with the toxic religious culture.
More MSM misrepresentation.
Please do not change headlines.
True, also a bunch of num nuts who fail to see thru the MSM misrepresentation..
The article doesn't say anything we didn't know long ago. They'd already planned on saying no law can be against Islam, but they would also lay out a basic set of human rights that no law (even those supported by Muslim fundies) could violate. We'll see how it panned out.
And of course you'll explain how this is misrepresention? Islam will be the basis for all laws in Iraq.
Depends on what they mean by 'conform to Islam.' Seems to be more than one school of thought on that.
Hence the WH statements about how establishing freedom was the way to defeat terrorism has never made sense to me. We should get our guys out of the way... and then bomb those people until they surrender.... plain and simple.
It does. Unfortunately, many Islam-haters here have painted the picture of Islam as a monolithic religion. It is not. Sunni and Shi'ite muslims adhere to significantly different doctrinal positions in many areas.
Sharia law is an aspect of Wahabbi Islam, the most extreme and militant sect out there.
Relax. The kook elements of Islam come mostly from the Haddith. Sunnis and Shi'ites both have different levels of loyalties to different Haddith writings, and even different interpretations of various passages of the Koran.
The Kurds also have a power stake in the new government and are even more relaxed in their versions of Islam.
This is not the catastrophe the main stream press is painting.
So, at the cost of billions of dollars, we just made West Iran.
Doesn't freedom mean they can pick the kind of country government they ant?
Problem is that the bombings aren't going to stop until "conform to Islam" means exactly what we don't want it to mean.
And when did this occur? During the days of Saddam's rape rooms? The days of the industrial shredder?
Because western pornagraphy, alcoholism and sluttish dress are the true indicators of freedom?
You confuse freedom and license.
You also think Wahabbism is all of Islam.
Everybody calm down. This is Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld we're talking about, not the RATS. Everything will work out fine. They've gotten us this far with overwhelming success. Don't go wobbly now that the end is nearly in sight.
LOL
Hey, so long as the women have no more rights than an end table, all is good?
If by that you mean the traditional and typical muslim today, that is absolutely correct.
The two are mutually exclusive, by any interpretation.
The MSM meme is the Iraqis are setting up an Islamic state therefore President Bush has failed. If you think the Iraqis are setting up an Islamic state in the mold of Iran, you don't have a clue.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
If the "human rights" clause holds, they also can't pass laws that do not allow women to drive, vote, etc .
Somebody's gonna get hurt, with your knee jerking like that...
Let's see what gets released in the next hour or so before declaring all is lost.
"I've come to the conclusion that all of them have lead poisoning of some sort"
Or they need it, if you get my drift.
My remark was not meant as sarcasm. Who else could have done as good a job. Certainly not Clinton.
I'm not. That's one reason why I opposed this invasion -- and sending American troops to die in Iraq -- from the beginning. The country was a 4th rate military power, didn't have WMDs, wasn't being 9-11, and couldn't be "changed" into a democracy. A lot of blood spilled in behalf of utopian fantasies by policy gurus who almost uniformly don't have any kids or kin in the military.
its too early to tell what this means. if we start seeing women losing rights, and mullahs and clerics holding government positions of power - then we will know its gone badly.
Who else could have done as good of a job?? It just depends on what you call an acceptable outcome. I think there are several freepers here who I would have let make the decisions.
Hey I defended the war and defended Bush for ever....The Iraqy people have chosen what they want and it ain't us.We did what we could for them...Its time to come home.
You guys are a bunch of dopes.
What did you expect? ... Did you think the Iraqi constitution was going to be based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. It's an Islamic country. They are a very religious society, and they are not going to start hang pictures of George Washington and the ten commandment on their court houses.
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