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Townhall ^ | 8/22/05 | Michael Graham

Posted on 08/22/2005 1:23:05 PM PDT by Crackingham

The First Amendment and I have been evicted from ABC Radio in Washington, DC.

On July 25th, the Council on American-Islamic Relations demanded that I be “punished” for my on-air statements regarding Islam and its tragic connections to terrorism. Three days later, 630 WMAL and ABC Radio suspended me without pay for comments deemed “hate radio” by CAIR.

CAIR immediately announced that my punishment was insufficient and demanded I be fired. ABC Radio and 630 WMAL have now complied. I have been fired for making the specific comments CAIR deemed “offensive,” and for refusing to retract those statements in a management-mandated, on-air apology. ABC Radio further demanded that I agree to perform what they described as “additional outreach efforts” to those people or groups who felt offended.

I refused. And for that refusal, I have been fired.

It appears that ABC Radio has caved to an organization that condemns talk radio hosts like me, but has never condemned Hamas, Hezbollah, and one that wouldn’t specifically condemn Al Qaeda for three months after 9/11.

As a fan of talk radio, I find it absolutely outrageous that pressure from a special interest group like CAIR can result in the abandonment of free speech and open discourse on a talk radio show. As a conservative talk host whose job is to have an open, honest conversation each day with my listeners, I believe caving to this pressure is a disaster.

I for one cannnot apologize for the truth and I cannot agree to some community-service style “outreach effort” to appease the opponents of free speech.

If I had made a racist or bigoted comment -- which my regular listeners know goes against everything I believe in -- I would apologize immediately, and without coercion. When I have made inadvertent fact errors in the past, I apologized promptly and without hesitation.

But we have now gone far beyond that, with demands that I apologize for the ideas my listeners and I believe in. It is not a coincidence that, after my suspension on July 28th, WMAL received more than 15,000 phone calls and emails protesting my removal from the airwaves.

Why such a huge response? It wasn't about me; The listeners I spoke to said they felt betrayed by my suspension because the vast majority of them agree with me on the subject of Islam. By labeling my statements as unacceptable, these listeners felt that WMAL management was insulting them, too.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abcradio; cair; islamofascism; michaelgraham; muslimamericans; talkradio; wmal

1 posted on 08/22/2005 1:23:07 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

Next they'll be demanding public beheadings on the Mall........


2 posted on 08/22/2005 1:25:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? GOOOOGLE your own name. Want to have fun? GOOOOGLE your neighbor's......)
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To: Crackingham

CAIR is a terrorist front organization!
(Does the 'C' stand for camel?)


3 posted on 08/22/2005 1:26:32 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: Crackingham
Hey, CAIR, bring it on. In your face. What are you going to do about this? I think this needs to be sent to your office. Do you know what we do to child molestors in my neighborhood?

MIDI - BOBBY'S GIRL

I know that he wants me bad…I know that he wants me bad

I'm only 8 years old…he's still got it, I'm told
In just one year I'm gonna be his

Although I still am flat...he'll call me pussy cat
That I'm too young is nobody's biz

I will be Mohammed's girl…I will be Mohammed's girl
That is what I really want to be
When I am Mohammed's girl…I am Mohammed's girl
I know he will take good care of me

All of his wives are hags…they've turned into old bags
I am so fresh and very nubile

On me he's had his eye…he is my kind of guy
I'll be the next one he will defile

I will be Mohammed's girl…I will be Mohammed's girl
That is what I really want to be
When I am Mohammed's girl…I am Mohammed's girl
I know he will take good care of me

4 posted on 08/22/2005 1:30:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Redbob

They wanted him fired because he outed them as a terrorist front group? It is what they are, after all.


5 posted on 08/22/2005 1:30:34 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: Crackingham
The First Amendment and I have been evicted from ABC Radio in Washington, DC.

Well, since he doesn't understand the 1st amendment I didn't read past the first sentence.

6 posted on 08/22/2005 1:30:34 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Crackingham

When will Micheal Graham start on America Right radio?


7 posted on 08/22/2005 1:32:25 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: Crackingham

Alternate stations in Virginia
1230 AM Limbaugh Hannity and others Frederickburg VA
1400 AM Similar lineup Winchester VA
I don't know how much of NVA their signals will reach.


8 posted on 08/22/2005 1:33:18 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country.)
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To: Phantom Lord
since he doesn't understand the 1st amendment I didn't read past the first sentence.

Exactly! How many times have conservative had to say that just because someone won't hire you to say something on their media channel, you're first amendment rights haven't been abridged. Hom many times have people claimed their right to free speech was violated by having their postings deleted on FR?

Conservatives can't be hypocrites. It is bad that CAIR got this guy off the air - but no one's rights are being violated and that argument is disingenuous.

9 posted on 08/22/2005 1:33:45 PM PDT by PianoMan (and now back to practicing)
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To: Phantom Lord

You're right. ABC had a choice whether to fire him for telling the truth, or not. ABC chose to continue to be part of the spineless Liberal MSM establishment.


12 posted on 08/22/2005 1:36:02 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Phantom Lord

I'm glad someone mentioned that small point.


14 posted on 08/22/2005 1:36:27 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Crackingham
The First Amendment and I have been evicted from ABC Radio in Washington, DC.

In the liberal MSM free speech isn't for conservatives.

15 posted on 08/22/2005 1:40:46 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Crackingham
The First Amendment and I have been evicted from ABC Radio in Washington, DC.

This isn't really a 1st Amendment issue as the government did not fire Mr. Graham. He made essentially the same point in the piece that got him fired ... so I'm surprised at his double standard.

16 posted on 08/22/2005 1:49:14 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: bpjam

I think he outed ISLAM not only CAIR as a terrorist front group.


17 posted on 08/22/2005 1:51:03 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: doug from upland

We need to start contacting our congresscritters and demand a full investigation of CAIR and it's terrorist connections. If enough hell is raised, maybe we can get some action.


18 posted on 08/22/2005 1:51:48 PM PDT by newcthem (Legal voters? We don't need no stinkin legal voters.....This is the Peoples Republic of Wisconsin.)
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To: Crackingham
The First Amendment and I have been evicted from ABC Radio in Washington, DC

No it hasn't. Has the government prosecuted him for his speech? I think not. I applaud him having the guts to say what he did, but free speech comes with the responsibility to take the consequences of it.

19 posted on 08/22/2005 1:57:14 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Phantom Lord

"Well, since he doesn't understand the 1st amendment I didn't read past the first sentence."

Ditto.


20 posted on 08/22/2005 1:58:20 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: Crackingham

Chris Berry, WMAL GM, is now claiming that all Michael had to do was go on air and say that his original statement may have been "overly broad", and that they did not fire him. In turn, Michael says on his web site that he got a written termination notice.

So who signed the termination letter? And if it wasn't from the GM, why didn't he know about it?

Michael, I do disagree with you on one point that others have mentioned. You don't have a First Amendment right to not be fired. Sorry, bro.

I do hope you will stay in the DC area, and keep shedding the light of truth on Doug Duncan, the Fairfax County School Board, the Herndon Town Council, and the rest of the liberal insurgency we have around here.


21 posted on 08/22/2005 1:58:35 PM PDT by W.P. Wily
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To: Crackingham

I have taken WMAL off my dial and no longer listen to it. Who wants politically-correct, censored talk radio? If I wanted that I'd watch CNN.


22 posted on 08/22/2005 2:06:33 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: antiRepublicrat

Exactly.


23 posted on 08/22/2005 2:09:58 PM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: thoughtomator

I just sent WMAL an email about losing me completely...

I will get my fix elsewhere.


24 posted on 08/22/2005 2:22:10 PM PDT by rscientist
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To: Crackingham

WBT here in Charlotte fired him 4 or 5 years ago. He's on occasionally as a guest and I love listening to him. Damn.


25 posted on 08/22/2005 2:24:58 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: Crackingham


26 posted on 08/22/2005 2:28:04 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: Crackingham

"I for one cannnot apologize for the truth and I cannot agree to some community-service style “outreach effort” to appease the opponents of free speech. "


Typical liberals: Free speech but only for those they
agree.


27 posted on 08/22/2005 2:29:27 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Raebie
WBT here in Charlotte fired him 4 or 5 years ago.

It would be instructive if you told us why they fired him.

28 posted on 08/22/2005 2:30:23 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Phantom Lord

Well, even if not a 1st Amendment issue, I'm still boycotting WMAL. Screw 'em. Graham's take on the issue was spot-on, and quite refeshing. If I wanted to listen to all this "Islam is a religion of peace" BS, I'd tune in the MSM, or a GWB speech.


29 posted on 08/22/2005 2:31:04 PM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao

Graham was just on with John Gibson. Very nice guy.


30 posted on 08/22/2005 2:33:56 PM PDT by Bahbah (Air America: kids-for-kilowatts)
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To: r9etb

Sorry, it was just after the Columbine shootings. From the WP:

"His most recent termination was in 1999 when he was working as a radio talk-show host on WBT in Charlotte. Just hours after the shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado, Graham told listeners that the killing of athletes at the school was "one minor benefit of this otherwise horrible story."

He later apologized, calling the comment "a stupid, insensitive and indefensible remark."


31 posted on 08/22/2005 2:34:21 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: Crackingham

btt


32 posted on 08/22/2005 2:35:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: kevao
If I wanted to listen to all this "Islam is a religion of peace" BS, I'd tune in the MSM, or a GWB speech.

Me too.

33 posted on 08/22/2005 2:36:59 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: Red Badger

Well as with any terrorists group, this little success may lead to just that. ABC is a buch of fools. "When " the Islamofascist get control (which they already have) of the msm, these fools will be answering to some dirty old man with a turbin on his head.


34 posted on 08/22/2005 2:39:45 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Crackingham; Liz; Howlin
I have been fired.

The judge on Fox News just explained that the organization presented their opinion and the radio personality presented his. Management went with those offended. It's a decision based on listeners and dollars.

The only way Michael Graham can sue is if he finds out that the offended gained in some financial way (such as being part of another broadcast network). Otherwise, he's screwed...

35 posted on 08/22/2005 2:41:49 PM PDT by Libloather (Why are Democrats buried in nine foot graves? Deep down, they're good people...)
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To: Crackingham
Harassing conservative talk radio hosts is a hobby of CAIR. They've regularly targeted the #1 conservative station here in Phoenix.
36 posted on 08/22/2005 2:47:32 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: Phantom Lord; PianoMan; dmz; Lorianne; antiRepublicrat; L98Fiero
since he doesn't understand the 1st amendment I didn't read past the first sentence.

This may not be a First Amendment issue, but the linked one below surely is.

Teacher suspended over letter

37 posted on 08/22/2005 2:47:51 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Crackingham

Celebrating?


38 posted on 08/22/2005 2:48:29 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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Next they'll be demanding public beheadings on the Mall........

No kidding. But, as you know we must not say anything bad about our brother islam pigs. Stinking dirty butt-wipin pigs. Ho-mohomad the child raper said so. I enjoy seeing dead homo-homads.

And with their stinking child rapin self turning their brainwashed head while trying to destroy everyones way of life... Well...... We may have their beheadings.. their heads.

Yes wave your jihad flag the only thing you do well is die.

Well time to send a wad of bucks to Isreal. Get my money's worth. They are not P.C.

Jammer
39 posted on 08/22/2005 2:50:55 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: FreedomCalls

"This may not be a First Amendment issue, but the linked one below surely is."

Big time. Suspened over a letter to a member of Congress. Where is the ACLU??


40 posted on 08/22/2005 2:51:50 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: Crackingham
I don't know what the exact remarks Michael Graham spoke when he compared "Islam and its tragic connections to terrorism".

I do know that Islam and terrorism will be forever linked.

41 posted on 08/22/2005 3:17:23 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: Phantom Lord
If a radio station must have a government issued license to operate, then the station is acting with an eye toward what the 'regulators' might allow, versus having their license revoked.

As such, they act as 'agents' of the government, working to allow what's acceptable rather than unacceptable on the air. With that, in this case the radio station is promoting the religion of political correctness at the behest of government, and in fact, violate the first amendment and free speech by doing so.

42 posted on 08/22/2005 3:37:14 PM PDT by budwiesest (I used to hit home-runs for fun. Today, I hit them out of necessity.)
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To: Crackingham

See also, and read the book---

http://www.sperryfiles.com


43 posted on 08/22/2005 3:38:58 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: conservativewasp

You can catch Vannity on Sirius as well.


44 posted on 08/22/2005 3:43:24 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

ABC Radio owns ten stations, listed here, with contact info:

http://www.abcradio.com/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=116

FWIW.


45 posted on 08/22/2005 3:52:24 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Crackingham

Some alternatives for the DC/MD/NOVA areas.

WBAL, Baltimore, 1090 kHz. This 50 kW powerhouse covers the area very well day and night. Rush is on from 12-3 and Ron Smith (an interesting guy with libertarian leanings) from 3-6 PM.

www.wbal.com


WTNT, DC, 570 kHz. Covers DC and NOVA pretty well. Their line-up includes Glenn Beck and Laura Ingraham.

www.wtntam570.com


WCBM, Baltimore, 680 kHz. Covers the entire area pretty well in the day and only the Baltimore area at night. Line up includes Liddy, Hannity and Savage along with local legend Les Kinsolving.

www.wcbm.com


Of course with many stations providing streaming audio on the web, over-the-air coverage is not as much a big deal as it used to be.

Michael Graham was previously at WRVA out of Richmond before moving to WMAL. I don't think he was fired from that job, just moved to a bigger market.


46 posted on 08/22/2005 6:01:51 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Crackingham

wow.


47 posted on 08/22/2005 6:43:07 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Tolik; tiamat; CHARLITE; Travis McGee

ping


48 posted on 08/22/2005 6:43:33 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Crackingham

INTREP - the First Amendment is dead.


49 posted on 08/22/2005 9:29:31 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: Crackingham

read later bump


50 posted on 08/23/2005 11:22:14 AM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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