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Navy Officer Affirms Assertions About Pre-9/11 Data on Atta
NY Times ^ | August 22, 2005 | PHILIP SHENON

Posted on 08/22/2005 4:13:55 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/22/2005 4:13:55 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Hope this story hangs in there. Something happened and we have a right to know.I tend to believe the Lt. Col.I don't tend to trust bureaucrats.


2 posted on 08/22/2005 4:16:00 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: neverdem

Wow.


3 posted on 08/22/2005 4:16:13 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: oceanview; small voice in the wilderness

Another voice is heard...


4 posted on 08/22/2005 4:16:20 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Mo1; radioproducer

ping a ling a ding dong!


5 posted on 08/22/2005 4:17:21 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (9-11 Commission - The largest CYA Operation in history!)
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To: neverdem

The big question is, why is the New York Times printing stories that may prove immensely damaging to their politics? It's totally out of character.


6 posted on 08/22/2005 4:17:39 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Hey Senator! Leave those kids alone!)
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To: neverdem

Who cares? What does Cindy Sheehan have to say about this?

That is what matters.


7 posted on 08/22/2005 4:17:54 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Thanks to documentaries like NGC's "Inside 9-11", this story isn't going away. With yet another source, and the inevitable Weldon hearings, this story has legs.


8 posted on 08/22/2005 4:20:30 PM PDT by sono
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To: My Favorite Headache

bttt


9 posted on 08/22/2005 4:20:40 PM PDT by Guenevere (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more deaths than there have been soldiers killed in Iraq.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Representative Weldon also arranged an interview with a former employee of a defense contractor who said he had helped create a chart in 2000 for the intelligence program that included Mr. Atta's photograph and name. The former contractor, James D. Smith, said that Mr. Atta's name and photograph were obtained through a private researcher in California who was paid to gather the information from contacts in the Middle East. Mr. Smith said that he had retained a copy of the chart for some time and that it had been posted on his office wall at Andrews Air Force Base. He said it had become stuck to the wall and was impossible to remove when he switched jobs.
10 posted on 08/22/2005 4:21:12 PM PDT by Dog
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To: thoughtomator
The big question is, why is the New York Times printing stories that may prove immensely damaging to their politics? It's totally out of character.

You'r assuming that they don't want to redeem their reputation. Money talks!

11 posted on 08/22/2005 4:21:37 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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"Mr. Di Rita said in an interview that while the department continued to investigate the assertions, there was no evidence so far that the intelligence unit had come up with such specific information about Mr. Atta and any of the other hijackers.

Hmmm, lets see, they seem to have known the name of this Atta insect a full year before he managed to pull off the single worst atrocity ever commit ed against the American people but this doesn't seem to constitute "proof" in Mr. Di Rita's vacuous little head. Simply amazing.

"He said that while Colonel Shaffer and Captain Phillpott were respected military officers whose accounts were taken seriously, "thus far we've not been able to uncover what these people said they saw - memory is a complicated thing."

This statement is simply too asinine to comment on.

12 posted on 08/22/2005 4:22:27 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: neverdem
If they do want to redeem their reputation, this story is the only data point on the chart.
13 posted on 08/22/2005 4:23:27 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Hey Senator! Leave those kids alone!)
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To: neverdem

They aren't going to be able to unscramble an egg soon. I believe it's reached a point to where the genie can't be put back into the bottle. It's growing daily.


14 posted on 08/22/2005 4:23:39 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: neverdem

This is an active duty captain? I think he can forget about ever getting those stars on his collar.


15 posted on 08/22/2005 4:25:40 PM PDT by navyblue
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To: neverdem
This is so normal in a bureaucracy that is 100 layers deep.

Why is anyone surprised. Every layer and every player has an agenda.
16 posted on 08/22/2005 4:25:49 PM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: neverdem; swarthyguy; Thud; Fedora; gaspar; Allan; Mitchell

"My story is consistent"

Interesting. does he think others' stories aren't?

"The former contractor, James D. Smith, said that Mr. Atta's name and photograph were obtained through a private researcher in California who was paid to gather the information from contacts in the Middle East."

Doesn't sound much like data mining, but old fashioned-humint.

"Mr. Smith said that he had retained a copy of the chart for some time and that it had been posted on his office wall at Andrews Air Force Base. He said it had become stuck to the wall and was impossible to remove when he switched jobs."

Oh yeah, the old "sticky wall" excuse. He should have just said he didn't think to take it. Instead he creates a story where no poster will be found on his old wall, therefore there was a conspiracy.

Weak stuff.


17 posted on 08/22/2005 4:26:14 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: lexington minuteman 1775; neverdem; dighton; JeanS

Smart. I remember hearing Rep. Weldon say there were a dozen of these folks lined up - not necessarily all willing to go public, but there are quite a few sources form which to draw info/corroboration.


18 posted on 08/22/2005 4:27:39 PM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Cautor

ping!


19 posted on 08/22/2005 4:28:05 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: sono
Thanks to documentaries like NGC's "Inside 9-11",

How was that, by the way?

20 posted on 08/22/2005 4:29:46 PM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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