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Navy Officer Affirms Assertions About Pre-9/11 Data on Atta
NY Times ^ | August 22, 2005 | PHILIP SHENON

Posted on 08/22/2005 4:13:55 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: conservative in nyc
The only way Lt. Col. Shaffer and Capt. Phillpott will survive the upcoming Clintonista sliming is if someone finds the chart with Atta's name on it.

Well they found Monica's blue dress so there is always hope.

101 posted on 08/22/2005 5:53:39 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: Torie

When you read COVERUP, imagine a TADUMMMMM in the background. :-}

102 posted on 08/22/2005 5:54:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: neverdem
Earlier today, on another thread, I posted the following ... this may be the break Shaffer needs to keep this story front & center.

The Pentagon has no vested interest in uncovering the data linking Able Danger and Atta. That's why Lt. Col. Shaffer needs documentation, or additional credible witnesses to step up to the plate ... otherwise this goes nowhere.

103 posted on 08/22/2005 5:54:26 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: longfellow

You bet Qalinton knew about Atta and he also could have targeted Ohsama several times and would not...But how much of this info was passed to Bush....

104 posted on 08/22/2005 5:54:49 PM PDT by crowman
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To: oceanview

MY guess as to why the Republican committee members are so weak is for 2 reasons...they were picked by congresscritters, (who are notoriously chicken, IMHO)...

AND, since none of these Senators LIKE to go out limb, they probable didn't trust Bush enough to think that he would come out unscathed...and maybe thought they were doing Bush a favor by picking INEPT commissioners so the TRUTH could stay hidden , if necessary..

105 posted on 08/22/2005 5:56:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: ken5050
#62...ewww....would you want that assignment?!!
106 posted on 08/22/2005 5:56:21 PM PDT by Guenevere (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more deaths than there have been soldiers killed in Iraq.)
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To: jwalsh07

sounds like they had a late night shredding party

107 posted on 08/22/2005 5:57:02 PM PDT by RDTF
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It sure does. I can't think of any other rational explanation. While the fact that someone in government knew Atta was already here would cause ripples it wouldn't have caused a tidal wave. If proof emerges that they covered up the fact that Atta had been ID'd, bar the door Katie.

108 posted on 08/22/2005 6:02:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: oceanview
Gordon was in self-preservation mode. (Aside: How did this jerk ever get elected to anything?)

I thought O'Reilly tried, but wasn't sufficiently informed... and he seemed to defer to Gordon. Pulled his punches.

I would have asked Gordon to justify Gorelick's presence on the commission.

Gorelick's surreal presence on the 911 commission investigating Gorelick's Justice Department, a maneuver that effectively removes from the universe of witnesses a central witness, Gorelick, even as it uniquely positions a central player, Gorelick, to directly shape the commission's conclusions. (Is there any question which two people are responsible for Gorelick's insertion on the commission?)

Conversely, that it never occurred to anyone on the commission that Gorelick's flagrant conflict of interest renders her presence on the commission beyond farce calls into question the commission's judgment if not its integrity. Washington's mutual protection racket writ large, I suspect....

Reverse Gorelick
by Mia T, 4.15.04

Why hillary clinton should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office... or any position of power--THE SERIES

Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?

109 posted on 08/22/2005 6:04:07 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Desron13; All
"...memory is a complicated thing."

Ever notice that when a lefty gets caught in a lie or exposed in a debate, they always revert to the "it's too complicated" statement?

Translation; you are not as smart as me, you don't/can't understand what I understand.

Sheer arrogance, along with the dishonesty.

110 posted on 08/22/2005 6:11:35 PM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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To: SubMareener

Thanks for the link.

111 posted on 08/22/2005 6:20:59 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: jimbo123

Thanks for the numbers & email addees.

112 posted on 08/22/2005 6:24:40 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Who you gonna believe, Washington politicians in full cover mode or Military Officers? I know whom I believe, Anchors Aweigh baby. Get em boys!!

113 posted on 08/22/2005 6:24:42 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: pbrown

"They aren't going to be able to unscramble an egg soon. I believe it's reached a point to where the genie can't be put back into the bottle. It's growing daily."

Now no one is going to nail you on that statement.

114 posted on 08/22/2005 6:24:53 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Coop

I heard there were a dozen of these guys or so. Seems we will be treated to a parade of them, perhaps one a week, until this story reaches critical mass.

Right now, I suspect the bureaucrats are figuring out how to handle this when it does break.

115 posted on 08/22/2005 6:25:29 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (
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To: strategofr
IF this was a black op in all likeliness there will be no docs to be found.

My husband was involved in counterintel black ops during the cold war and the lack of documents has caused us untold distress.
116 posted on 08/22/2005 6:30:20 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: neverdem

No..they'll just blame the Pentagon and never mention that it was during Clinton's will somehow be Bush's fault

117 posted on 08/22/2005 6:32:34 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: thoughtomator

"The big question is, why is the New York Times printing stories that may prove immensely damaging to their politics? It's totally out of character."

Good question. Track the MSM on a timeline marked by 11/2004. By 11/2004, everthning they said was a lie. Since then, they have much more truth. They are building credibility so they can lie more effectively in 2006, 2008.

118 posted on 08/22/2005 6:36:43 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

I noticed that too, or do you think they are packing their bags for france?

119 posted on 08/22/2005 6:36:59 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: thoughtomator

The Navy Captain knows that the NY Times is the "paper of record", so he gives them the story. If they don't print it, he gets a two-fer, i.e. he gives the story to another media outlet and claims that the NY Times wouldn't print it.

Good move.

As bad as it is, the NY Times isn't that stupid.

120 posted on 08/22/2005 6:38:34 PM PDT by jackbill
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