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Televangelist calls for Chavez' death
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/22/05 | AP

Posted on 08/22/2005 8:42:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson called on Monday for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him a "terrific danger" to the United States.

Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, said on "The 700 Club" it was the United States' duty to stop Chavez from making Venezuela a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."

Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous.

"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."

Electronic pages and a message to a Robertson spokeswoman were not immediately returned Monday evening.

Venezuela is the fifth largest oil exporter and a major supplier of oil to the United States. The CIA estimates that U.S. markets absorb almost 59 percent of Venezuela's total exports.

Venezuela's government has demanded in the past that the United States crack down on Cuban and Venezuelan "terrorists" in Florida who they say are conspiring against Chavez.

Robertson accused the United States of failing to act when Chavez was briefly overthrown in 2002.

"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said.

"We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he continued. "It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: calls; chavez; death; hugochavez; id10t; patrobertson; robertson; televangelist; venezuela
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In this picture released by Miraflores Press Office Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, left, listens to President Fidel Castro, as they arrive in Cuba's Sandino province Sunday, Aug. 21, 2005. Chavez is on official visit in Cuba.(AP Photo/HO Miraflores Press)


1 posted on 08/22/2005 8:42:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Chavez is a hazard to the world. I'll leave my comments at that.


2 posted on 08/22/2005 8:45:11 PM PDT by nj26
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To: NormsRevenge

Right on pat!!!


3 posted on 08/22/2005 8:45:19 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

You're not serious, are you?


4 posted on 08/22/2005 8:46:30 PM PDT by Utopia
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To: Utopia

I'm dead serious. You're not serious are you?


5 posted on 08/22/2005 8:47:00 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Ditto!!!!!!!!! Serious as a heart attack.


6 posted on 08/22/2005 8:48:04 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Good grief. And if he were of a different faith calling for a jihad, you'd be right behind that too, or is it that only Christians have the right to demand the deaths of others?


7 posted on 08/22/2005 8:48:14 PM PDT by Utopia
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Where is Venezuela's 'Pinochet'?


8 posted on 08/22/2005 8:48:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge

Chavez is clinging to Fidel, because Fidel is the exception to the rule in Latin America--a dictator who managed not to get a bullet in the back of the head from one of his lieutenants or an insurgent mob. I don't think Hugo will be so lucky. He was dumb enough to get "crank called" by those DJs in Miami--I think it's just a matter of time, really.


9 posted on 08/22/2005 8:48:37 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: mariabush

The thinking exemplified by the previous poster is the same shared by the crinton admin. that kept osama bin laden alive pre 9/11....'nuff said


10 posted on 08/22/2005 8:49:16 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: NormsRevenge

What an ass. The guy just loves publicity. Chavez will make good use of Robertson's big mouth.


11 posted on 08/22/2005 8:49:44 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Utopia
And if he were of a different faith calling for a jihad, you'd be right behind that too, or is it that only Christians have the right to demand the deaths of others?

Who brought religion into this? Chavez lives by the sword. He'll die by the sword. End of story.
12 posted on 08/22/2005 8:50:02 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Antoninus

I am in total agreement. Message to Chavez: Remember the Communist Salvador Allende from Chile, 1970's...


13 posted on 08/22/2005 8:50:13 PM PDT by Embraer2004
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To: NormsRevenge
Now the press will run with this and turn a decent man into a demon. They'll misrepresent Robertson's comments and say that all Christians are hypocrites. Never mind all of the liberals who've wished death to George Bush or compared him to Hitler. Never mind Dick Durbin calling our fighting men and women Nazis.
14 posted on 08/22/2005 8:50:49 PM PDT by bushinohio
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To: Utopia
"or is it that only Christians have the right to demand the deaths of others?"

You credit Pat Robertson with far more authority than he actually possesses. Plus, if you re-read the article, he's not exactly demanding the death of Chavez. He more or less said that, if we (the US) are looking to assassinate the guy, we need to go ahead and do it.
15 posted on 08/22/2005 8:51:59 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Bullshit. Osama Bin Laden had declared direct war on America and had already proven responsible for a number of terrorist attacks that cost the lives of American citizens.

Pat Robertson is off his rocker. He is going to get justifiably thumped for this, and he's further sullying the image of Christians in this country for it.


16 posted on 08/22/2005 8:52:09 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: Utopia

Nice try to set up your little argument....doesnt work on me.


17 posted on 08/22/2005 8:52:40 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: Antoninus
Who brought religion into this?

Um... its the story

Televangelist calls for Chavez' death
Religious broadcaster Pat ...

He did it WHILE broadcasting. What do you think he broadcasts? (Hint: its NOT a cooking show)

18 posted on 08/22/2005 8:53:47 PM PDT by Utopia
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To: NormsRevenge

Pat, you're as idiotic as Chavez is dangerous.

-Dan

19 posted on 08/22/2005 8:54:29 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Christians have the right to demand the deaths of others, due to their moral superiority. Ok. My education is complete.


20 posted on 08/22/2005 8:55:12 PM PDT by Utopia
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To: NormsRevenge

And killing Chavez wouldn't be "extreme"???!! Wouldn't that make us just like the Muslims?

Come on Pat! Why would you say such a thing? For crying out loud, that is all the body of Christ needs, is a call for killing someone!

What would Jesus do, Pat? What DID Jesus do? I don't think you are spending enough time with him....take a break.


21 posted on 08/22/2005 8:55:20 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the heck happened!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
I don't think TV preachers should be telling us who we need to kill.
What would be the odds of finding a Christian hit man... wait, didn't they just convict one last week...
22 posted on 08/22/2005 8:55:38 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: RegulatorCountry

Wow, aren't you the spinmeister. He said, and I quote, "If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it." That isn't even close to the way you're trying to spin it. Nothing there about whether or not we are considering it; he even said he doesn't know what our assassination policy (here it is Pat: as a policy, we don't).


23 posted on 08/22/2005 8:55:53 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: Antoninus
Who brought religion into this?

Umm... perhaps Televangelist Pat Robertson did?

24 posted on 08/22/2005 8:56:59 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: tuckrdout
Wouldn't that make us just like the Muslims?

It's being presented and endorsed on this and other threads in religious terms. So... yes. Just like the Muslims.

25 posted on 08/22/2005 8:57:34 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Utopia

All kinds of people get killed in the bibul, so what's the problem?


26 posted on 08/22/2005 8:58:19 PM PDT by Step_Into_the_Void (Don't take my money and don't hire the government to take if from me for you. You theif.)
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To: Step_Into_the_Void

Well, heck, if God told Pat to say that, then, who are we to argue.


27 posted on 08/22/2005 8:59:16 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: Utopia
I can hear the left now...
"See see see? Christians have there terrorists too..see see see?" They are going to compare this guy to Osama in a few days. You know Chavez will.

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

Never nod when you can wink. Never say something that stupid on tape.

JEDI.
28 posted on 08/22/2005 8:59:41 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: mcg1969

"Wow, aren't you the spinmeister."

Not deliberate. And, speaking of spin, it still doesn't equate with calling for the death of Chavez, now does it? As if Pat Robertson has the authority to make good on it anyway.


29 posted on 08/22/2005 9:02:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: NormsRevenge
Not promoting Robertson but this Chaves is looking for a fight.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1468705/posts
30 posted on 08/22/2005 9:03:08 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: NormsRevenge

Robar 50 Cal Bump!


31 posted on 08/22/2005 9:03:11 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Right on pat!!!

Pat usually is right on, but not always politically correct.
32 posted on 08/22/2005 9:03:23 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Types_with_Fist

I endorsed it, but not in religious terms. I said that I didn't care who said it, it is about time. Actually, I think that it's past time. Chavez should have been eliminated before Bush even took office.


33 posted on 08/22/2005 9:03:40 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Ah, we don't "do" that at FR.


34 posted on 08/22/2005 9:04:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RegulatorCountry
And, speaking of spin, it still doesn't equate with calling for the death of Chavez, now does it?

Umm, what? What part of "I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it" do you not get? Or if you need confirmation, how about, "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability"?

35 posted on 08/22/2005 9:04:34 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: Stellar Dendrite
The thinking exemplified by the previous poster is the same shared by the crinton admin. that kept osama bin laden alive pre 9/11....'nuff said

The "thinking" expressed by Utopia is that -- at least on THIS site -- we don't openly call for ANYONE's death.

If you feel like you need to say stuff like that, you're at the wrong web site.

36 posted on 08/22/2005 9:05:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Eva
I endorsed it, but not in religious terms.

There is another longer thread going and there was also one that was deleted. It's been done on those. But, you're right. It hasn't been supported on this thread in religious terms yet. Trust me, though. It's coming...:-)

37 posted on 08/22/2005 9:06:32 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks a lot, Pat.

You've just lost the Republicans many thousands of potential votes.

Why don't you stick to diverting hurricanes, you idiot.


38 posted on 08/22/2005 9:07:15 PM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: mcg1969

"Calling for death" versus "I think we ought to." Spin it into some sort of fatwah-equivalent if you like (and you clearly do like). But, there is a big difference, semantically speaking.


39 posted on 08/22/2005 9:07:21 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: mcg1969

"Bullshit. Osama Bin Laden had declared direct war on America"

Ah but of course....Chavez hasn't threatened America.....he's just a "good" Commie, right?

Are you really this ignorant???


"Venezuela and North Korea Connect"
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17748

"Even more troubling than Russian intervention, recent reports indicate that a North Korean military sales delegation has visited Caracas with the intention of selling Chavez intermediate range ballistic missiles."

"‘New Castro’ threatens to take his feud with America nuclear - (Chavez rattling nuke sabers!)"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1413034/posts

"“We want to initiate nuclear research and ask for help from countries like Iran,” he said."








"An overview on the relationship of Chavez, Castro & terrorism"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1309533/posts

"Chávez’s Venezuela prepares for confrontation with the US"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365879/posts


40 posted on 08/22/2005 9:07:41 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: Step_Into_the_Void
All kinds of people get killed in the bibul, so what's the problem?

Are you at the right web site?

We don't call for the death of people at this web site.

41 posted on 08/22/2005 9:07:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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He was wrong and he said something stupid but I just love how the superior anti-Christers always want to hold Christians to a higher standard.


42 posted on 08/22/2005 9:08:10 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Howlin

Show me where *I* called for someone's death? Nice try, howlin....



43 posted on 08/22/2005 9:08:48 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: NormsRevenge

WHAT ..??

I'm stunned!


44 posted on 08/22/2005 9:09:00 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

You nailed it.


45 posted on 08/22/2005 9:09:17 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: mcg1969

god? A figment of the imagination did not tell pat or anyone else to say anything. I do agree with pat on this one, take the murderer out as cheaply as possible and as soon as possible.


46 posted on 08/22/2005 9:09:27 PM PDT by Step_Into_the_Void (Don't take my money and don't hire the government to take if from me for you. You theif.)
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To: Utopia

"Good grief. And if he were of a different faith calling for a jihad, you'd be right behind that too, or is it that only Christians have the right to demand the deaths of others?"

There is a difference between pushing a little old lady in front of a speeding bus, and pushing a little old lady out of the path of a speeding bus.

"ould someone calling for the assassination of Pol Pot before he could murder so many be the equivalent of a mooselimb calling for the murder of innocent civilians?


47 posted on 08/22/2005 9:09:36 PM PDT by dsc
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To: NormsRevenge

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You couldn't conjure a more simplistic, dense, and ignorant person if you tried. Every negative stereotype of Christians is personified in one man (oh, and Falwell).


48 posted on 08/22/2005 9:09:39 PM PDT by CompGeek
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To: NormsRevenge
"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop." Lets not get carried away. If you read this statement, its couched in a certain level of sarcasm and insincerity. Taking things out of context is a staple of news reporting.
49 posted on 08/22/2005 9:10:05 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Pray for America like its future depended on it, because it does!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey, I'd swear I saw the guy on the left washing dishes in the local eatery, earlier this evening.


50 posted on 08/22/2005 9:10:56 PM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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