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Courageous mother did not deserve criticism
Columbus Dispatch ^ | Tuesday, August 23, 2005 | CINDY WESTLING

Posted on 08/23/2005 4:51:15 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye

Fox News has hit a new low. I didn’t think it was possible. To insinuate that a grieving mother is a communist, a wacko or has a political agenda just shows how evil this cable network is.

Cindy Sheehan is a hero who has every right to demand answers to why her son and so many other Americans lost their lives for a lie. Our servicemen pledge to serve and defend our nation.

They do so out of a sense of moral obligation and a love for this country. Leaders of this administration and especially President Bush have shown time and again that they view themselves as above reproach. Our soldiers’ lives and dedication are expendable.

That Bush, who presents himself as a man of faith, can’t reach out to a fellow human as a good Christian, tells me that he is no Christian. God help us all.

CINDY WESTLING


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KEYWORDS: antisemite; bush; christian; cindysheehan; crocodiletears; fox; grievingmother; notapeacemovement; sheehan
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This writer appears to wrap a lot of the Left's hate into one short letter: Hate Bush, hate the war in Iraq, and hate Fox.

BTW, did Fox insinuate that Sheehan is a communist, as the writer asserts?

1 posted on 08/23/2005 4:51:16 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye
BTW, did Fox insinuate that Sheehan is a communist, as the writer asserts?

I would hope so, considering her supporters.

2 posted on 08/23/2005 4:52:56 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Was this just a letter to the editor? I see crap like that every day in my newspaper. Pure ignorance.


3 posted on 08/23/2005 4:53:48 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

My Directv dish is out so I can't see FoxNews.
God Bless them!

I thought Columbus was the less liberal part of Ohio. What am I thinking?


4 posted on 08/23/2005 4:53:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I think calling her a Communist is an insult to all Communists. This was on Dridge a few days ago about her.

"Wed Aug 17 2005 21:51:56 ET
"We are not waging a war on terror in this country. We’re waging a war of terror. The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush!"

So declared Cindy Sheehan earlier this year during a rally at San Francisco State University.

Sheehan, who is demanding a second meeting with Bush, stated: "We are waging a nuclear war in Iraq right now. That country is contaminated. It will be contaminated for practically eternity now."

Sheehan unleashed a foul-mouth tirade on April 27, 2005:

"They’re a bunch of fucking hypocrites! And we need to, we just need to rise up..." Sheehan said of the Bush administration.

"If George Bush believes his rhetoric and his bullshit, that this is a war for freedom and democracy, that he is spreading freedom and democracy, does he think every person he kills makes Iraq more free?"

"The whole world is damaged. Our humanity is damaged. If he thinks that it’s so important for Iraq to have a U.S.-imposed sense of freedom and democracy, then he needs to sign up his two little party-animal girls. They need to go to this war."

"We want our country back and, if we have to impeach everybody from George Bush down to the person who picks up dog shit in Washington, we will impeach all those people."

END


5 posted on 08/23/2005 4:54:13 AM PDT by stockpirate (We can fight the Muslim Army in Iraq! Or we can fight them outback! Check my homepage)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Cindy Sheehan is a hero

No she's not. I never heard anyone on Fox say that she's a communist, but I don't listen to it 24/7, but O'Reilly and others have pointed out her connection to far left organizations.

6 posted on 08/23/2005 4:54:24 AM PDT by Bahbah (Air America: kids-for-kilowatts)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Who cares...? she's an opportunist, not courageous. She has used and abused her son's service and death for her own need of publicity. Shame on her.


7 posted on 08/23/2005 4:54:48 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I'm glad my mother didn't love me like these defeatists "love" America.


8 posted on 08/23/2005 4:55:20 AM PDT by armydawg1
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Typical of the left - "we can say what we want to, but you can't".


9 posted on 08/23/2005 4:55:37 AM PDT by mathluv (Mercy shown to an evil man is cruelty to the innocent.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

" a communist, a wacko or has a political agenda"

Perfect description of Crazy Cindy Sheehan. Well, I would have added "terrorist-lover" and "traitor" and "not-so-easy on the eyes".


10 posted on 08/23/2005 4:55:58 AM PDT by NathanBookman (It's dark out.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

It's the son, Casey, who is clearly courageous. After reading a tribute to him on a military blog this morning, I've decided to pray for his mother since I think that is what he would want. It's going to be hard, but maybe she'll find peace. I think that's what Casey would want. He was a wonderful young man and we need to get the focus back on him.


11 posted on 08/23/2005 4:56:45 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: Loyal Buckeye

The question for the writer.......does she think that Lynne Stewart is an American hero.


12 posted on 08/23/2005 4:58:01 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

9/11 is not a lie.


13 posted on 08/23/2005 4:59:16 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: atomicpossum

A common theme that I have noticed recently is that Pres. Bush owes the parents explanations, especially one pertaining to when their sons/daughters will be coming home.

Mayor Manhood, Columbus mayor, expressed that line of thought regarding his own son who is in Iraq. Of course, this theme is just another way of asserting that the war in Iraq is wrong.


14 posted on 08/23/2005 4:59:57 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye

From some of Sheehans speeches, I'd day she holds all America is great contempt and hates it. That doesn't make her a communist, just a seditious whiner with serious emotional issues.


15 posted on 08/23/2005 5:00:04 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
I think FOX did nothing but quote Sheehan ~ and based on what she's said about people and policies she's either a National Socialist or a Commie ~ she hangs around with convicted Islamofascists who aided terrorists too.

It's really difficult to make up stuff about her since so much that's true is so horrid.

Horowitz' old man was also a Commie ~ he's spent his life making up for it. I would imagine the Sheehan boy was similarly motivated.

16 posted on 08/23/2005 5:00:16 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: SouthernFreebird

She's a self serving wack job...nothing more or less


17 posted on 08/23/2005 5:02:32 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Hey just cause you hang out with Commies doesn't make you one?~}


18 posted on 08/23/2005 5:02:44 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: theDentist

I highly doubt that Fox News did anything besides quote Sheehan accurately. The fact that this moonbat letter-writer is implying that she was overtly called a communist indicates, to me, that the leftists know she is not appearing well to the average American. Why else would she try to defend Sheehan against a charge that hasn't been spoken? Not to mention that the moonbats just hate being exposed for what they truly are, even if they are not being expressly labeled.


19 posted on 08/23/2005 5:04:25 AM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: SouthernFreebird
She has used and abused her son's service and death for her own need of publicity.

Cindy Sheehan has not just used her son's death for her own needs, but has also used the names of other servicemen, mostly against the wishes of their families.

Cindy Sheehan is a typical liberal where the end justifies the means, even if you have to abuse the dead.

20 posted on 08/23/2005 5:05:57 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: stockpirate
We want our country back and, if we have to impeach everybody from George Bush down to the person who picks up dog shit in Washington, we will impeach all those people."

You mean somebody picks up dog sh!t in Washington? And here, I thought the dogs were just anal retentive...

Learn something new every day.

21 posted on 08/23/2005 5:06:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
BTW, did Fox insinuate that Sheehan is a communist, as the writer asserts?

I hope so, spades must be called spades..

22 posted on 08/23/2005 5:07:12 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Islam-Hastening the Second Coming..)
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To: netmilsmom

Columbus is the gayest city in the whole mid-west, so I don't thnk its conservative in any way shape or form...


23 posted on 08/23/2005 5:08:08 AM PDT by chadwimc
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To: Loyal Buckeye

She is a wacko, psycho, warped communist. She said this country wasn't worth dying for, along with all the other foul-mouthed rants she engages in.

Cindy Sheehan has disgraced the memory of her son and all the values he stood for.


24 posted on 08/23/2005 5:09:06 AM PDT by BlackjackPershing
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To: The Phantom FReeper

O'Reilly had some tapes of her on his radio show yesterday, where she blamed America for all the world's woes since whites first set foot on her shores. This was her attitude long before her son died in the war.


25 posted on 08/23/2005 5:10:36 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: chadwimc

>>Columbus is the gayest city in the whole mid-west, so I don't thnk its conservative in any way shape or form...<<

Well that's just a shame. Even when they anexed half the state to be ranked bigger in land mass than Cleveland?
One would think that some of those farm people would be a little consevative.


26 posted on 08/23/2005 5:11:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Lets get the facts straight.

"Cindy-Lu" Sheehan is the mother of a soldier killed in action in Iraq. He volunteered and re-enlisted after serving his first tour of duty.

President Bush already had a private meeting with Cindy-Lu within months of her son's death. She thanked him for his compassion and caring.

Cindy-Lu is now in the midst of divorce proceedings.

Cindy-Lu said "'This country is not worth dying for.' If we're attacked, we would all go out. We'd all take whatever we had. I'd take my rolling pin and I'd beat the attackers over the head with it. But we were not attacked by Iraq. We might not even have been attacked by Osama bin Laden if 9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to get their neo-con agenda through . . ."

Cindy-Lu started the name calling as "She described President Bush as being "detached from humanity" and said that "his mouth kept moving, but there was nothing in his eyes or anything else about him that showed me he really cared or had any real compassion at all." She continued, "He didn’t even know our names," asking "Who we'all honorin' here today?" when he first entered the room, and then referring to her as "Ma" or "Mom".

We are sorry for your loss Cindy but Micheal "fat ass" Moore and Moveon.org (Moron.org) have taken over the hate and the invictive and don't deserve the publicity that they are getting with you as spokesperson. They are hiding because they know they can't get any of the same attention themselves. Losers.
27 posted on 08/23/2005 5:12:05 AM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
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To: atomicpossum
That Bush, who presents himself as a man of faith, can’t reach out to a fellow human as a good Christian, tells me that he is no Christian

The fact that you fail to mention that George Bush ALREADY reached out and met with Sheehan tells me you a frig'n liberal idiot.

28 posted on 08/23/2005 5:12:19 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

"Fox News has hit a new low. I didn’t think it was possible. To insinuate that a grieving mother is a communist, a wacko or has a political agenda just shows how evil this cable network is."
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I've never heard Fox New even imply that she is a communist or a wacko.
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"Cindy Sheehan is a hero who has every right to demand answers to why her son and so many other Americans lost their lives for a lie. Our servicemen pledge to serve and defend our nation."
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Wrong. Her son is the hero.
There is a big hole in New York City filled with your answers.
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"They do so out of a sense of moral obligation and a love for this country. Leaders of this administration and especially President Bush have shown time and again that they view themselves as above reproach. Our soldiers’ lives and dedication are expendable."
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Yeah yeah. We support the troops just not what they do.
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"That Bush, who presents himself as a man of faith, can’t reach out to a fellow human as a good Christian, tells me that he is no Christian. God help us all."
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He already met with her once.
If you don't do what I want then your not a good Christian. Gag me with a spoon.


May God protect America from these people.


29 posted on 08/23/2005 5:12:41 AM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: Loyal Buckeye

YAWN....Both of you get a job and get on with your lives.


30 posted on 08/23/2005 5:12:42 AM PDT by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I think that when she decided to wade into the political world, she invited this criticism. You can't make political attacks on people, and then claim that it's wrong for them to respond.


31 posted on 08/23/2005 5:12:57 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Loyal Buckeye

TYpical left wing mentality. They can spew all kinds of hateful rhetoric towards the right, but the right can not respond.


32 posted on 08/23/2005 5:13:10 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Loyal Buckeye

They showed video of her saying far leftist things, and O'Reilly saying she is obviously far left - they didn't call her a communist. They just called her far left....

What is wrong with these people? If this is what the woman feels, and they show video of it, how is that an insult? She is what she is.


33 posted on 08/23/2005 5:13:31 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Cindy Sheehan had a political agenda long before her son was killed in Iraq. She opposed his enlisting, his service, and the war.

That was far from her only political activism.

This letter writer also appears to have a political agenda.

Meanwhile I've gotten sick of Fox radio news' "positive" portrayal of Cindy's protest "vigil". When will the supporters of the President be mentioned in the hourly radio updates?

One sided reporting and treating the far left fringe with kid gloves does no one any good.

These activists are the types who painted swastikas on campaign signs and keyed the cars of Bush supporters. There are probably some who sympathize with those who torch parked SUVs.


34 posted on 08/23/2005 5:13:59 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Cindy is a misguided, half-educated, potty-mouth moron from her yellow teeth down to her dirty toe nails. Her son will be 50 years cold in his grave and a better person than she is on her best day.
35 posted on 08/23/2005 5:15:16 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

A communist by any other name.


36 posted on 08/23/2005 5:15:23 AM PDT by ampat
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To: kevinm13

I've heard a Cindy supporter say that we were not attacked by Iraq on 9-11, that the London and Spanish bombings were not done by Iraqis.

I have news for the Left. The terrorists we fight in Iraq today are not Iraqis. They came flooding in from other countries.


37 posted on 08/23/2005 5:17:11 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Faux pas.......where is our

BARF ALERT!!


38 posted on 08/23/2005 5:18:13 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
who has every right to demand answers

Of course she has a right to demand anything she wants.

But to expect an answer?

That's nuts.

40 posted on 08/23/2005 5:21:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

This is something I don't understand. If you have a son or daughter, who enlists, it is wrong to say they were a stupid tool.

This woman acts like her son was an idiot. He was of age, he enlisted, he reenlisted, he volunteered for this duty. What does it say of her mothering that she thinks at his age he was too stupid to make these decisions for himself? Was he still a 10 year old in her eyes?

My cousin's children enlisted against her wishes. (She lost family already in war, she knows what it is) She cried a little, for mothers worry, but she would NEVER insinuate they were so stupid they couldn't make this decision for themselves.

And if, God forbid, anything happens to them, she won't run around screaming at the president like he ran over her 5 year old in the street.


41 posted on 08/23/2005 5:22:31 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

To insinuate that a grieving mother is a communist, a wacko or has a political agenda just shows how evil this cable network is.

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Uh...no....it means that Fox was perhaps the only major tv network willing to tell the truth about her.


42 posted on 08/23/2005 5:22:46 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Oh and by the way, she is not a grieving mother; rather, she is using her son's sacrifice as part of her political agenda.


43 posted on 08/23/2005 5:23:26 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Emptyfreedom

You don't send your kids. They volunteer to go, if that is their calling in life.

What are Bush's daughters supposed to do? Dress the troops? They are fashion majors, for goodness sake.


44 posted on 08/23/2005 5:27:29 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Emptyfreedom

Enjoy your brief stay.


45 posted on 08/23/2005 5:29:50 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Cindy Sheehan is a hero who has every right to demand answers to why her son and so many other Americans lost their lives for a lie. Our servicemen pledge to serve and defend our nation.

Cindy is no hero. If she has questions about the death of her son she should ask them and get it over with. She has made her quest into a circus like atmosphere which took away any legitimacy as far as I am concerned. Fox News may have called her on it and I guess the truth hurts. For a group that "demands the truth" I find the writers opinion of FNC to be somewhat hypocritical.
46 posted on 08/23/2005 5:30:30 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Jim Noble

Cindy Sheehan, not the only mother who has lost a son in Iraq, is the one the extreme political left (in agreement with the Jihadis, Hamas, the insurgents and the terrorists) is using as a propaganda tool in treason against our government and our armed forces, which are, if some people haven't noticed, at war against these very enemies.

A lot of other grieving mothers are patriots who haven't lost their minds.


47 posted on 08/23/2005 5:30:31 AM PDT by RoadTest (For Heaven's Sake)
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To: I still care

I think Emptyfreedom will shortly be an empty space.


48 posted on 08/23/2005 5:32:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: weegee

What I don't see in this discussion is any recognition by posters that support for the war IS waning in this country - not among the extremist fringe whose voices are recorded here, apparently, but in the heartland. (Even in that part of the heartland which adheres most firmly to "slave state values".) This is a troubling development for those of us who believe in a true syphrosynistic conservative agenda. Swift-boating Cindy Sheehan isn't going turn this tide. The polls today are very troubling.


49 posted on 08/23/2005 5:33:27 AM PDT by Emptyfreedom (Err, actually Cindy Sheehan DOES represent me)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
To insinuate that a grieving mother is a communist, a wacko or has a political agenda just shows how evil this cable network is.

Well then, if being one of those three things and being a grieving mother are mutually exclusive, then it follows logically that a mother need only become a communist, a wacko or have a political agenda and her kids will be imortal!

[Our servicemen fight] out of a sense of moral obligation and a love for this country.

True, and it is a shame you cannot relate Cindy.

Leaders of this administration and especially President Bush have shown time and again that they view themselves as above reproach.

...As opposed to respomding to every lie, ignorant accusation or stupid statement, that is.

50 posted on 08/23/2005 5:34:52 AM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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