BILL CLINTON'S CINDY SHEEHANS (courtesy Sean Hannity)

Sean Hannity Show-WABC, WorldNetDaily, PBS | 8.23.05 | Mia T (courtesy Sean Hannity)

[Mia T]

 

BILL CLINTON'S CINDY SHEEHANS (courtesy Sean Hannity)

 

The author also noted that James Smith, a former Ranger captain and father of Cpl. Jamie Smith -- who bled to death after he was shot in the leg during the battle, because he could not be evacuated &endash; returned a letter of condolence from President Clinton. In rejecting it, he sent a letter of his own, blaming Clinton for the Mogadishu debacle.

Also not in the movie was an after-action incident between Clinton and the parents of two Rangers -- MSgt. Gary Gordon, 33, and SFC Randy Shughart, 35 &endash; who were killed in action but posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for their actions.

McKenny said that family members were invited to the White House to receive the medals. Clinton reportedly invited the parents of Gordon and Shughart into the Oval Office for a private meeting.

When he did, "he stuck his hand out to shake the hands of the parents, but Randy Shughart's father refused to take Clinton's hand."

Then, McKenny said, "he looked Clinton in the face, told him he was responsible for his son's death, that it was for no purpose and that he wasn't fit to be president or commander in chief."

Smith, who had his left leg amputated after being wounded in Vietnam in the mid-60s, later said Clinton also didn't take responsibility for the decisions that left the Rangers without heavy armored support.

In a another incident, the author said that weeks later family members of many of the dead were called to Washington, D.C., to testify at congressional hearings into the debacle.

"When Clinton heard they were in town, he called them into his office for a meeting and told them that part of the reason they were dead was their own fault," McKenny said. "He said they may have been responsible for their own deaths because they were 'too aggressive' in Mogadishu."

One other incident that didn't make the movie -- or the American press, McKenny said -- happened after the wounded soldiers were brought back to Walter Reed Army Hospital outside Washington.

"Clinton was advised to go see them, but he didn't want to," McKenny said. "Somewhat reluctantly, he finally did go. When he got there, he offered to have his picture taken with each one of them. At least four turned him down, saying they wouldn't dishonor their dead friends or their uniform by having their pictures taken with him.

Black Hawk Down' doesn't tell whole story
Movie about Somalia military disaster leaves out Clinton episodes
Thursday, January 31, 2002
By Jon Dougherty
a staff reporter and columnist for WorldNetDaily
and author of the special report,
"Election 2000: How the Military Vote Was Suppressed."

INTERVIEW Osama bin Laden (may 1998)   In the first part of this interview which occurred in May 1998, a little over two months before the U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama bin Laden answers questions posed to him by some of his followers at his mountaintop camp in southern Afghanistan. In the latter part of the interview, ABC reporter John Miller is asking the questions.   Describe the situation when your men took down the American forces in Somalia.   After our victory in Afghanistan and the defeat of the oppressors who had killed millions of Muslims, the legend about the invincibility of the superpowers vanished. Our boys no longer viewed America as a superpower. So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war. They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so they trained and prepared. They were stunned when they discovered how low was the morale of the American soldier. America had entered with 30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from different countries in the world. As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging and all that noise it was making in the press after the Gulf War in which it destroyed the infrastructure and the milk and dairy industry that was vital for the infants and the children and the civilians and blew up dams which were necessary for the crops people grew to feed their families. Proud of this destruction, America assumed the titles of world leader and master of the new world order. After a few blows, it forgot all about those titles and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers. America stopped calling itself world leader and master of the new world order, and its politicians realized that those titles were too big for them and that they were unworthy of them. I was in Sudan when this happened. I was very happy to learn of that great defeat that America suffered, so was every Muslim....   The American people, by and large, do not know the name bin Laden, but they soon likely will. Do you have a message for the American people? I say to them that they have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal government, and this is most evident in Clinton's administration....

BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE)
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE

WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?

by Mia T, 8.18.05

(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)
thanx to jla and Wolverine for the audio

[Mia T]

ping

[IronMan04]

It Was George H.W. Bush who first ordered US troops to Somalia in late 1992.

[bmwcyle]

It was Bill Clinton that turned and ran.

[Mia T]

That is true. But it was bill clinton who created the fiasco that bin Laden, himself, said emboldened him.

[hsalaw]

Bush41 sent them in on a humanitarian mission.

[coconutt2000]

The way I remember it, Clinton was responsible for expanding the mission in Somalia, and it was his White House that insisted on under manning, under equipping, and under armoring the expanded mission.

[MNlurker]

If I reacall correctly they were there only to assure that food made its way to the starving population (humanitarian). It was Clinton that turned it into a military operation.

[OldFriend]

After Aidid (sp?) attacked our troops, murdered our rangers, and slick willie cut and ran from Somalia, blaming the Rangers for being too aggressive......he gave safe plane rides to Aidid to various tribe meetings.

[eyespysomething]

"When Clinton heard they were in town, he called them into his office for a meeting and told them that part of the reason they were dead was their own fault," McKenny said. "He said they may have been responsible for their own deaths because they were 'too aggressive' in Mogadishu."

I am having to take deep breaths right now to try and not scream at my desk.

[silverleaf]

Les Aspin as Secretary of Defense...need we say more.

[IronMan04]

It was a bit more than a Humanitarian effort form Day 1:

Operation Restore Hope

United States President George Bush responded to Security Council resolution 794 (1992) with a decision on 4 December to initiate Operation Restore Hope, under which the United States would assume the unified command of the new operation in accordance with resolution 794(1992). The Secretary-General communicated to President Bush on 8 December his concept of a division of labour between the United Nations and the United States in the following terms: "The United States has undertaken to take the lead in creating the secure environment which is an inescapable condition for the United Nations to provide humanitarian relief and promote national reconciliation and economic reconstruction, objectives which have from the outset been included in the various Security Council resolutions on Somalia."

The first elements of the Unified Task Force (UNITAF) came ashore on the beaches of Mogadishu without opposition on 9 December 1992. On 13 December, United States forces had secured the airfield at Baledogle, and by 16 December they had seized Baidoa. The United States Central Command was following a four-phase programme to realize the objectives of securing major airports and seaports, key installations and food distribution points, and providing open and free passage of relief supplies, with security for convoys and relief organizations and those supplying humanitarian relief.

The number of United States forces were expected to build to approximately 28,000 personnel, to be augmented by some 17,000 UNITAF troops from over 20 countries. In addition to United States forces, UNITAF included military units from Australia, Belgium, Botswana, Canada, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, India, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Tunisia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom and Zimbabwe.

[silverleaf]

I remember a story about the women who called out "You killed those boys" to President Clinton as he walked by....and was later audited by the IRS.

Maybe someone has the details.

[clintonh8r]

He was the worst....until Bill (RINO) Cohen came along.

[Names Ash Housewares]

Pulling out of Somalia set the precedence for the terrorists. Give America a bloody nose and we leave.

[Rummyfan]

It was Clinton who expanded the mission to go after Aidid, yet refused to provide the tools (armor and air support) to get the job done. He thought that would appear 'too aggressive'! As*h*le! In eight years of Clinton Administration, the US military was deployed forty-four times around the world, compared with only eight foreign deployments in the previous post-WWII admins. And we STILL have troops in the Balkans and apparently they will be there forever, despite Clinton's claim that they would be home by Christmas when they were originally deployed. And his little air war in the Balkans was never even authorized by Congress!!!!

[Dahoser]

What page was that on in his $10 million roll of toilet paper?

[Rummyfan]

At least Aspin had the decency to resign after the Mogadishu fiasco.

[Crackingham]

Can we get over Clinton already?

[partyrepub]

And it was bill clinton who changed the rules of engagement and ordered our Rangers into a dangerous situation with out any support. Clinton lied and 3020 americans died.

[Rummyfan]

But the big firefight in Mogadishu didn't take place unitl October 1993, and I don't think you can put the blame for that other than squarely on the Slickmeister.

[cwb]

Yeah...and that was mostly a UN/US humanitarian aid effort controlled by the US. After Clinton took office he (and the UN) immediately changed the objective from humanitarian to nation-building...with most control handed over to the UN on May 4th, 1993. Butros Gali even began using the US military as a tool to wage a more aggressive campaign against Aidid, whom he never liked.

Ironically, these more aggressive tactics were coming at a time when Clinton was drawing-down American presence and power in the region to not give an impression that we were occupying the nation. As a result, when the US campaign to capture Aidid was finally launched (supposedly without UN knowledge), the soldiers were left defenseless as all the heavy armor and machinery was denied for PR reasons.

[Bob]

It was a bit more than a Humanitarian effort form Day 1:

Providing general security under the original "Operation Restore Hope" ROE had absolutely nothing to do with trying to apprehend specific people as clinton tried to have our forces do. It was a total change of mission and was totally screwed up.

[hattend]

Is that the same woman who said "You Suck" and was arrested?

[MosesKnows]

"he stuck his hand out to shake the hands of the parents, but Randy Shughart's father refused to take Clinton's hand."

Then, McKenny said, "he looked Clinton in the face, told him he was responsible for his son's death, that it was for no purpose and that he wasn't fit to be president or commander in chief."

These very words were published in a U.K. newspaper at the time it occurred with no mention of the event in any American media.

[hattend]

Can we get over Clinton already?

So Able Danger is fake?

The DNC would love for us to get over it.

[KevinDavis]

Until the left gets over Nixon..

[TruthFactor]

Thank God for the internet and FreeRepublic. Otherwise the "whole" story would be forgotten and left to the MSM to spin.

[Rummyfan]

I would like to but.....


President Bush is fighting a war after fanatics murdered over three thousand Americnas on our home soil, yet he gets excoriated in the MSM becuase some grief-stricken mentally unstable mother thikns we can only fight a war if no one gets hurt.

Clinton presided over military fiascoes, hell, even the some-might-call-it-murder of innocents at Waco, yet the MSM gives him a free pass. Where is the MSM investigation into practices of the Clinton Admin which led to 911? Where is the investigation into Sandy Berger's theft of classified docs, yet they howl over the 'outing' of Valerie Plame? Where are the grieving relatives of those killed at Waco, at Mogadishu, in the Balkans, getting major face-time from the media scum? It just goes on and on...... It's hard to let it go!

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Damn, I was just about to ping you (till I saw who posted it). Another outstanding post. Thanks!

[stockpirate]

Well I am sure that even though GW wasn't in the WH all of this had to be his fault.

God Bless our brave troops! And God bless their loved ones.

[malia]

"--The way I remember it, Clinton was responsible for expanding the mission in Somalia,---"

Trying to wipe the slate clean of the anti-America demon(strating) he did in a foreign country.

The first of many examples of the MSM agenda!!!

[Incorrigible]

Thanks Mia!!!!!

[Mia T]

;)

[rattrap]

That's what I was thinking, the further away his presidency gets the sillier it looks to go on and on about it.

[Incorrigible]

Can we get over Clinton already?

I'll get over Clinton when he's gotten over 20 years in San Quentin.

[cwb]

I remember this story, also. In fact, I thought she was taken away by the Secret Service when it happened. It's amazing how protestors of Clinton were treated compared to those who protest Bush. Heck, just today Bush was again singing the praises of Sheehan's right to protest...while those who did Clinton were often arrested, beat-up or audited by the IRS.

[Little Bill]

You might find this interesting.

[djmv]

ping

[OldFriend]

When three thousand dead Americans who died on 9/11 and our troops killed and wounded in Iraq are avenged, then maybe the klinton era will be excised from our memory.

[OldFriend]

Steve Malzberg used to have a late night show on WABC radio and often had Mr. Shugart on his program.

Steve was relentless in exposing the disgusting behaviour and attitude against the families of our heroic Rangers.

[Peach]

I am rushing a bit and didn't read the entire thing, Mia, but didn't Osama bin Laden himself say that Americans were paper tigers and didn't have the stomach for body bags after the Black Hawk down incident?

And now the left wants to prove OBL right.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

I wouldn't recommend doing that. Getting over them as you say would only clear the way for the Clintons to regain the total control that they desire. Without it, they're a teensy weensy bit vulnerable. The longer they go without holding the highest office, the better the chance they are going to slip.

People just don't understand this idea of our military wanting to serve under President Bush. Those who served under the Clintoon watch certainly do. Commander in Chief (sticking my finger down my throat) Clinton could not have cared any less for our military. Today, our military *knows* the enormous care and respect that President Bush has for our military and their families. It's a totally different environment when the members of the military *trust* their CiC.

[malia]

You tell me what I'm supposed to "get over".

[MS.BEHAVIN]

Yeah, same here..
We lost a good friend over there...

Staff Sergeant Thomas J. Field

Staff Sergeant Thomas J. Field was born in Lisbon, Maine on April 11, 1968. He graduated from Lisbon High School in 1986. After enlisting in the U.S. Army in 1987, he attended training to become a UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter repairer. He then attended Airborne School and was assigned to the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne). Staff Sergeant Field participated in U.S. actions in Panama, Southwest Asia, and many other worldwide missions. Staff Sergeant Field was killed in action while serving with United Nations forces in Somalia

I'm beside myself after reading that quote from Clinton..
Ms.B

[brazzaville]

Good afternoon.
"It Was George H.W. Bush who first ordered US troops to Somalia in late 1992."

HWB sent our troops in on a humanitarian mission to feed the starving Somali children. That mission was somewhat successful until bill clinton came to power. He changed the mission and his statist flunkies set the new rules under which 18 Delta and Ranger troopers died.

If we are lucky, Abel Danger will shine a light on what clinton was and what his wife is.

Michael Frazier

[smoothsailing]

Thanks Mia,you always cut through the "wall" of the left like a blowtorch!!! ;)

[rintense]

Is anyone listening to this idiot Sheila Jackson Lee on FNC? She's so incredibily dumb, I can't believe any Texan would vote for her.

[Laverne]

I saw that she was coming up, so I switched the channel. :-)

[cwb]

"In eight years of Clinton Administration, the US military was deployed forty-four times around the world, compared with only eight foreign deployments in the previous post-WWII admins."

---

I remember when Inhofe made a speech before congress pointing out these similar statistics...and it was pretty damning. What was sad was that even with all of these deployments under the guise of nation-building, Clinton got nothing resolved, and in many cases, aggravated the situation.

Along with the failure in Somalia, Bush and the US has already had to go back to Haiti, Iraq, Afghanistan...and who knows what's going to happen in the Balkans thanks to that half-assed job. Between the failures and appeasment in N. Korea, and double-dealings with China, Clinton's foreign policy was disaster we'll being paying for, for decades.

It's pretty sad...but what do you expect when the only succesful military operation on the man's resume was the siege at Waco. And even that was an unmitigated disaster.