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Punishing Disobedient Wives
Arab News ^ | Tuesday, 23, August, 2005 (18, Rajab, 1426) | Ghada Al-Hori Al-Watan

Posted on 08/24/2005 3:38:13 AM PDT by Salman

I find it unacceptable when some people twist the meaning of a particular verse in the Holy Qur’an — especially the one which permits a husband to beat his disobedient wife. Those who do the twisting must understand that the permission is only given under certain circumstances and that the beating is intended as a remedy for specific situations. It is unfortunate that some well-known and respected Muslim scholars have either willingly or unwillingly joined a campaign seeking to distort the meaning of that particular verse.

In many cases, they have given a different meaning from the one actually intended
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It is quite obvious here that Islam adopts a gradual approach starting with verbal admonishment of the wife, then seeks a period of refraining from conjugal relations and, finally, if the husband finds the situation very serious, he may strike his disobedient wife.
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A rebellious woman who is not moved by kind works, persuasion and admonition is a woman of no feeling and must therefore be punished by beating. Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating.

The controversy over the beating of disloyal and rebellious women is part of the campaign against Islam. If beating disobedient wives was advocated by Western scientists, it would have been widely supported by the same people who criticize Islam and special centers would have been set up all over the world to train husbands on how to beat their wives.

Our scholars should focus on explaining to people, especially the young, the real teachings of Islam in order to avoid causing uncertainty and confusion.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: domesticviolence; islam; muslimwomen; religionofpeace; trop; wives; women
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To: Salman

The best way to end barbarism is to kill the barbarians and then civilize their children.


21 posted on 08/24/2005 4:04:28 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: Salman

I'm Arabic (thank God I'm Christian) and I have a question . . .

Where is the verse about allowing women to beat their husbands?

Islam is no "religion of peace".

I am beginning to doubt if Islam is any REAL religion at all.


22 posted on 08/24/2005 4:05:40 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Salman

"A rebellious woman who is not moved by kind works, persuasion and admonition is a woman of no feeling and must therefore be punished by beating."

Who are we going to believe? These guys or our lyin' eyes?

"Kind words" ... "persuasion" ... "admonition" ... like flying airplanes into buildings and killing 3000 innocent men, women and children.

Islam: a religion of lies, fear, violence, terror, lies and more lies.


23 posted on 08/24/2005 4:06:39 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: schwing_wifey
>"Any person who feels the need to beat spouse, child, or pet to correct their behavior should live their life alone."

You mean they shouldn't be looked up to as the supreme messenger of gawd? A role model for the best human being ever born?

This would explain the utter failure of the arab race!

*{… As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them [first]. [Next], refuse to share their beds, [And last] beat them [lightly]; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, Great [Above you all].}* (Surat An-Nisaa’ 4:34)



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24 posted on 08/24/2005 4:09:05 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: Hardastarboard
Yes, refusing conjugal relations with your wife is just playing right into her plan.

I heard they developed a food to eliminate sexual desire in women. It's called wedding cake.

(snare drum shot)

25 posted on 08/24/2005 4:09:25 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Salman; Chieftain

I checked out the link.No parody.

I wonder what reaction I would get if I showed this to a liberal? Oh, never mind.


26 posted on 08/24/2005 4:09:38 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

I wonder if we can borrow a few carts from the Russkis.


27 posted on 08/24/2005 4:11:39 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [Quicquid peius optimo nefas])
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To: Salman
Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating

Over here, we call those people politicians.
28 posted on 08/24/2005 4:12:29 AM PDT by English Nationalist
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To: Salman

These people are sooo 12th Century ago...


29 posted on 08/24/2005 4:21:20 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: woofer

Mohammed was a sex offender.


30 posted on 08/24/2005 4:23:06 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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To: Salman
Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating.

This is PURE BULLS$%^! But I do know that the US Marines have it written in their book to kill as many Muslim Terrorists as the day allows and send them to Allah and his Pedophile follower Mohammad. How do you explain the rampant number of pedophiles in the ranks of your clerics? At which point does your teaching permit you to cut off her head? Islam is the religion of Satan, the Anti-Christ! IMHO

31 posted on 08/24/2005 4:25:15 AM PDT by stockpirate (We can fight the Muslim Army in Iraq! Or we can fight them outback! Check my homepage)
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To: Salman

LOL... they really don't have a clue...


32 posted on 08/24/2005 4:25:31 AM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws.... SMILE!!!)
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To: Salman
"...special centers would have been set up all over the world to train husbands on how to beat their wives."

ooookey-dokey

"Our scholars should focus on explaining to people, especially the young, the real teachings of Islam in order to avoid causing uncertainty and confusion."

I was thinking that very thing myself.

33 posted on 08/24/2005 4:27:40 AM PDT by mitch5501 (by the grace of God,I am what I am)
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To: Archidamus
"permission is only given under certain circumstances and that the beating is intended as a remedy for specific situations."

Translation: "Whenever he wants to."

The hypocrisy of the liberals rejecting Christianity and embracing Islam is so think you can cut it with a knife.

Every time some idiot like Sheehan opens her pie-hole she tells things exactly the opposite of what they are. Just consider that she can live a peaceful life here, but they would stone her in about six seconds in the places she so adores.

34 posted on 08/24/2005 4:31:12 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (</i>)
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To: Ronin
Shame on the West for mis-interpreting the Qu'ran!

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35 posted on 08/24/2005 4:33:38 AM PDT by mentor2k
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To: stockpirate
Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating.

This is PURE BULLS$%^! ...

Not necessarily. There may be Saudi "psychiatrists".

36 posted on 08/24/2005 4:34:49 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

Maybe a better word in the translation is "spanking"? </sarc>


37 posted on 08/24/2005 4:35:47 AM PDT by Lord Basil (Hate isn't a family value; it's a liberal one.)
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To: Hardastarboard
This is pretty much proof that Mohammed didn't understand the relationship between men and women at all.

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He was conning his dimwitted followers.

"What, you mean your wife doesn't find that to be a punishment? What's wrong with you?"

In actual fact, since he had more wives than the bag limit of four he set for his followers this wasn't a problem.

I've read interviews with polygamous Mormons. When asked about this, they said more or less, "Well, one or more of them isn't mad at me at any one time, so I can ignore the ones that are mad with me until they get over it."
38 posted on 08/24/2005 4:37:57 AM PDT by Cheburashka
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To: Salman

Mohammad=beat your wives
New Testament of the Bible= Husbands love your wives even as Christ so loved the church.

I think I'll go with the second one.


39 posted on 08/24/2005 4:40:22 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Salman

At the university, we have to tell faculty from certain regions that they can be sent to jail for beating their wives. Most of the time, they are incredulous.


40 posted on 08/24/2005 4:41:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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