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Evangelist backs off Chavez assassination call
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 8/24/05 | Reuters

Posted on 08/24/2005 10:35:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Conservative U.S. evangelist Pat Robertson, who called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, said on Wednesday he was misinterpreted and there were a number of ways to "take him out" including kidnapping.

"I said our special forces could take him out. Take him out could be a number of things including kidnapping," Robertson said on his "The 700 Club" television program.

"There are a number of ways of taking out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted," Robertson added.

Robertson, the founder of the Christian Coalition and a presidential candidate in 1988, said on Monday of Chavez, one of Bush's most vocal critics: "If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it."

"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability." He made the comments during his "The 700 Club" television program.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Tuesday dismissed Robertson's remarks, but the White House remained silent despite calls for repudiation from Venezuela and religious leaders including the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack called "without fact and baseless" any ideas of hostile action against Chavez or Venezuela.

The leftist Chavez has often accused the United States of plotting his overthrow or assassination. Alongside Cuban President Fidel Castro in Havana on Sunday, Chavez scoffed at the idea that he and Castro were destabilizing troublemakers.

Chavez survived a short-lived coup in 2002 that he says was backed by the United States. Washington denies involvement.

Venezuelan officials said Robertson's remarks, while those of a private citizen, took on more significance given his ties to President George W. Bush's Christian-right supporters.

"Mr Robertson has been one of this president's staunchest allies. His statement demands the strongest condemnation by the White House," Venezuela's ambassador to the United States Bernardo Alvarez said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assassination; backs; evangelist; hugochavez; off; patrobertson; venezuela
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1 posted on 08/24/2005 10:35:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

What would we do with him after we kidnapped him?

Stop digging, Pat.


2 posted on 08/24/2005 10:37:13 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: NormsRevenge
Take him out could be a number of things including kidnapping

Idiot.

Either take it back or stand by it.

This fudging fools no one.

3 posted on 08/24/2005 10:37:24 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: NormsRevenge

*** Take him out could be a number of things including kidnapping,***

Oh, this is really going to make things better.


4 posted on 08/24/2005 10:37:24 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: NormsRevenge

"he was misinterpreted and there were a number of ways to "take him out" including kidnapping."

Oh for crying out loud Pat! That's spin worthy of a liberal Democrat. We all know what you meant so either apologize or stand by your statement. (I prefer the latter)


5 posted on 08/24/2005 10:38:08 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Liberals believe common sense facts are open to debate!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it." Misinterpreted?
6 posted on 08/24/2005 10:38:20 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it."

This does not entail kidnapping or any other option. He meant kill him. I knew Robertson would back down. The PC police always make certain of that.

7 posted on 08/24/2005 10:38:37 AM PDT by Tim Long
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To: NormsRevenge

Let him keep talking. Maybe this will be his demise.


8 posted on 08/24/2005 10:38:51 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: NormsRevenge
"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it."

Oh, so I guess he was talking about character assassination, or some other type of assassination I guess.
9 posted on 08/24/2005 10:39:41 AM PDT by Tequila25
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To: NormsRevenge

come on pat, you're disappointing me. stick to your GUNS


10 posted on 08/24/2005 10:39:46 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: Cecily

Maybe he meant "Take him out" as in "take him to dinner, a movie, and have a good time"??


11 posted on 08/24/2005 10:39:46 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: NormsRevenge

"Just give Chavez a noogie and call him 'Hector, Hector, cootie inspector' - that's all I'm saying," Robertson added.


12 posted on 08/24/2005 10:40:02 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The guy's nuts.


13 posted on 08/24/2005 10:40:56 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: headsonpikes

OOPS! Try 'Hugo, Hugo, drives a Yugo'!

;^)


14 posted on 08/24/2005 10:41:02 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hugo Chavez is offering to sell "poor Americans" cheaper gas (via CITGO?). What are you doing, Pat?

/sarc

15 posted on 08/24/2005 10:41:19 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: HawaiianGecko
"...either apologize or stand by your statement.

I haven't seen any conservatives or Christians come out publicly and defend his comments. Rush has backed away, nothing from Coulter or Hannity. With his backing down now I guess they won't need to take a public stance.

16 posted on 08/24/2005 10:42:35 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Cecily
After kidnapping him, you place him in a room with Star Jones while playing Barry Manilow tunes endlessly.

He will go both blind and deaf, they you release him since he will be less of a threat. ;-)
17 posted on 08/24/2005 10:42:37 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge

"misinterpreted"

Last time I looked in the dictionary, the term "assassinate" meant "kill." I don't think he was misinterpreted.


18 posted on 08/24/2005 10:42:56 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: NormsRevenge
All the presstitutes are worried about the dumb things that doddering old Pat Robertson says. Meanwhile, they ignore the incendiary and dangerous things that this kook says:

‘New Castro’ threatens to take his feud with America nuclear - (Chavez rattling nuke sabers!)
19 posted on 08/24/2005 10:43:05 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: blaquebyrd

"Rush has backed away,"

what do you mean rush has backed away? yesterday he said "why didnt you include castro?"


20 posted on 08/24/2005 10:43:20 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Right, could be that "Taking Him Out" was in reference of a date, but that would be too gay, right?


21 posted on 08/24/2005 10:43:38 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge

In the good old day the CIA would have wasted this communist mofo Chavez five years ago. He's a real pest.


22 posted on 08/24/2005 10:44:00 AM PDT by dennisw (Muhammad was a successful Hitler. Hitler killed too many people too fast - L. Auster)
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To: NormsRevenge

I'll be the lone dissenter here and say tha, when I first read the statement, I didn't assume "take him out" meant assasination. And knowing the MSM's proclivity and sheer joy over slandering Christians, it's no surprise things were taken to the extent we've seen.

As an aside: I'm sure some of us have taken a man out on the football field. Did you kill him? Did you plan to?


23 posted on 08/24/2005 10:44:20 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Gee, Pat... I think you'd be better off explaining that you were high when you made those comments. This is just pathetically bad spin and makes you look all the worse.


24 posted on 08/24/2005 10:44:49 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Mr Robertson has been one of this president's staunchest allies. His statement demands the strongest condemnation by the White House," Venezuela's ambassador to the United States Bernardo Alvarez said.


Pat Robinson, a little nice, but a lot of screws loose. He's been an embarrassment for many years. A staunch ally of the President NOT! The MSM is all over this non-story like flies on ---t! People should feel sorry for Pat. He's been making audible nonsense for years now. He was on some religious channel yesterday doing some cooking show. I watched for a second. Sad.
25 posted on 08/24/2005 10:45:04 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence.)
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To: Zechariah_8_13

Well I'll take back my comments. The previous story I read didnt' include the assasination comment.

Thoughts retracted.


26 posted on 08/24/2005 10:45:42 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Brilliant
"Last time I looked in the dictionary"

It depends on the meaning of 'is'.
27 posted on 08/24/2005 10:45:51 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Today Rush said he was called by the MSM to give them a sound bite, he said called him 3 times. That would have been the perfect time to say that he backed Robertson's statement. That is if he did.


28 posted on 08/24/2005 10:46:42 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: NormsRevenge

I will say, however, why the big uproar?

WHO CARES?

As Rush said, loony lefties call for the death of the President every day.

In fact, even the NYT hoped for such, right after the elections.


29 posted on 08/24/2005 10:48:04 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: NormsRevenge

When I said "kidnapping", I was taken out of context. Kidnapping could mean a lot of things, including treating him like a child and putting him to sleep.

Oh, uh...


30 posted on 08/24/2005 10:48:06 AM PDT by kenth
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To: NormsRevenge
"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it."

cra-ni-al fart .... n.

1. The act of speaking prior to engagaing in a meaninful thought process
2. Spoken words that emit the foul stench of ignorance.

31 posted on 08/24/2005 10:48:20 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Does it hurt when they shear your wool off?)
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To: NormsRevenge

What exactly would be wrong with killing Chavez? Chavez is a tinpot Marxist thug right now, but I have no doubt that he aspires to much "greater" things, and the longer we wait, the more dangerous he'll become to US interests.

Imagine if someone had the horse sense to shoot a 9M slug in Hitler's brain back in 1935...


32 posted on 08/24/2005 10:48:24 AM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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To: Cecily; Dane

Is Robertson related to Kerry?

I smell a waffle here...


33 posted on 08/24/2005 10:48:32 AM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: Cecily

Is Robertson related to Kerry?

I smell a waffle here...


34 posted on 08/24/2005 10:48:41 AM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: Dane

Sorry Dane,

Wrong ping.


35 posted on 08/24/2005 10:49:21 AM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: All
Chavez offers cheap gas to needy Americans

"...HAVANA - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, popular with the poor at home, offered Tuesday to help needy Americans with cheap supplies of gasoline.

"We want to sell gasoline and heating fuel directly to poor communities in the United States," the populist leader said at the end of a visit to Cuba.

Chavez did not say how Venezuela would go about providing gasoline to poor communities. The Venezuelan state oil company, PDVSA, owns Citgo, which has 14,000 gas stations in the United States.

The offer may sound attractive to Americans feeling pinched by soaring prices at the pump but not to the U.S. government, which sees Chavez as a left-wing troublemaker in Latin America..."

36 posted on 08/24/2005 10:49:27 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo

FWIW, my car ran sluggish on just a couple gallons of Citgo Premium (closest available station).


37 posted on 08/24/2005 10:50:02 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: NormsRevenge

He meant, "take him out for ice cream".


38 posted on 08/24/2005 10:50:04 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Antoninus

Good thread. Wonder if Newsweak was quick to hop that one?


39 posted on 08/24/2005 10:50:26 AM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: Fitzcarraldo

I hear that Chavez is such an antisemite that a million Jews have emigrated from Venezuela. The media is expressing mock outrage again.


40 posted on 08/24/2005 10:51:27 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: blaquebyrd
"That would have been the perfect time to say that he backed Robertson's statement."

I think he'd have done us all a favor by saying he thinks Robertson's a nutcase who doesn't represent conservatives any more than Saddam Hussein represents Democrats. The media is using Pat's comments to attack the right, the religious right, conservatives, and any other label they can stick on him.
41 posted on 08/24/2005 10:51:30 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Waiting now for Jimmy Swaggart and Dr. Dobson to weigh in...


42 posted on 08/24/2005 10:53:13 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Zechariah_8_13

A host (Randi Rhodes?) on ScAIR America said that someone ought to take the President outside and shoot him.

The media ignored it.

The press is outraged that Robertson's statement could cause international incident but they see no harm in Cindy Sheehan calling Bush a terorist or the enemy in Iraq "freedom fighters".


43 posted on 08/24/2005 10:54:07 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Seems Pat "misrepresents" things alot, eh? Senility is quite sad.


44 posted on 08/24/2005 10:54:19 AM PDT by richmwill
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Robert Tilton is keeping mum. He swallowed his tongue again.


45 posted on 08/24/2005 10:54:49 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Rule number one when you find yourself in a hole:

STOP DIGGING!

46 posted on 08/24/2005 10:55:47 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: blaquebyrd

"I haven't seen any conservatives or Christians come out publicly and defend his comments."

And they shouldn't defend him. He's not a leader of the GOP. By not defending him, they will help bury this story quickly.


47 posted on 08/24/2005 10:57:05 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Liberals believe common sense facts are open to debate!)
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To: poobear

Pat Robertson is hardly an ally of the President. He supported him over John Kerry, but he has been very critical of the President.

Also, NewsMax reports that in 1997 George Stephanopolis wrote an article which called for the assasination of Saddam Hussein.

For those of us who are religious, we realise the difference is that Pat Robertson should respect life, while George won't. But what excuse does the anti-God MSM have for ignoring George's comments but jumping on Pat?

BTW, I consider Pat Robertson something of a lunatic. A rich, well-known lunatic.


48 posted on 08/24/2005 10:57:25 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: F15Eagle

The left LOVES this...while I dont agree with Robertson's comment.. why wasnt the Iranian Cleric's call for the death of 3 prominent american christians headline news? or the requests by Baldwin to stone Henry Hyde? hollywood and even political lefty remarks are all swept under the rug.

OLD article but interesting:
http://www.jesusjournal.com/articles/publish/article_370.html


49 posted on 08/24/2005 10:57:55 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: NormsRevenge
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice"

Stupidity in the defense of liberty is a vice.

Pat's remarks fall into category B.

50 posted on 08/24/2005 10:58:22 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Atheism is not conservative!)
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