Skip to comments.Trinational Elites Map North American Future in "NAFTA Plus"
Posted on 08/24/2005 6:16:31 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
I would like you [of the press] to understand the magnitude of what this means. It is transcendent, its something that goes well beyond the relationship we have had up to now. President Vicente Fox, regarding NAFTA Plus, onboard the presidential plane returning to Mexico from George W. Bushs Crawford ranch, March 2005.
NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) has been in effect almost 12 years and a new stage, NAFTA Plus, is in the works, referred to as deep integration, particularly in Canada. The elites of the three NAFTA countries (Canada, the United States, and Mexico) have been aggressively moving forward to build a new political and economic entity. A trinational merger is underway that leaps beyond the single market that NAFTA envisioned and, in many ways, would constitute a single state, called simply, North America.
Note: long article
(Excerpt) Read more at americas.irc-online.org ...
Maybe you should just take a little NoDoze?
And the specific benefits of NAFTA have been...
ping for later
To think that all this time I thought of myself as a globalist, only to find out that I am a member of the Trinational Elite. Bummer.
I doubt it.
Thanks for posting this. I started reading this earlier today, but haven't had the time to finish it yet. It explains a lot about what is going on with regards to the border.
You all might find this one interesting....
In Mexico, another call for more porous borders was unfolding, which tended to converge with Canada's. Within months of his inauguration in December 2000, President Vicente Fox launched the idea of going beyond NAFTA's economic integration. Counseled by his foreign relations secretary Jorge G. Castañeda (in turn, in constant dialogue with Pastor), Fox proposed Mexico's version of NAFTA Plus, with a limited but important objective for Mexico. NAFTA had boosted the flow of goods, services, and capital in the trinational area but, from Mexico's perspective, it had omitted a key factor: its abundant, poorly-paid, and unemployed labor force. Fox proposed labor mobility for Mexicans within a greater "North America," in exchange for certain concessions to the United States.
During NAFTA negotiations in the early 90s, the United States had flatly refused to consider the idea of greater integration of the labor markets. Such a scenario would have been violently rejected by certain influential (and racist) sectors of public opinion, and NAFTA would have been a nonstarter.
In 2001, seven years into NAFTA, Fox took bold proposals to his initial meetings with George W. Bush and laid them out with an aplomb that left Washington observers stunned. The New York Times commented, after one visit by Fox to Washington, "rarely has a foreign leader shown up on the South Lawn of the White House and declared that he and the president of the United States must remake the fundamental rules that have governed his country's uneasy relationship with the United States -- and get it done in the next four months."
Theoretically, at least, Fox was right. In totally open markets, labor should enjoy the same freedom of movement that NAFTA had given capital. Mexico's "competitive advantage" is precisely its abundant labor force, but it was facing increasingly formidable barriers to reaching job vacancies in the United States. Perhaps not by accident, NAFTA's start in 1994 coincided with the first U.S. Border Patrol militarized "operations" to seal the border with Mexico. The blatant discrimination of Mexico's "competitive advantage" had to be eliminated, Fox insisted. The New York Times article insinuates that Bush understood and accepted Fox's daring proposals ("endorsing his principles," the Times says), although dissenting with him over the timeframe and the political feasibility of pushing them forward.
Few U.S. policymakers perceived a contradiction between "operations" on the U.S. side to seal the border and an acceptance by Bush to review migratory policy options. On the one hand, the status quo was not working. Border Patrol "operations" had not detained Mexican migration -- in fact it had tripled during the NAFTA years. Still, border crossings had become more dangerous, leading to the tragic death of 4,000 migrants in 10 years. In addition, there were American companies that were begging for cheap, non-unionized workers to fill the "4-D" jobs (dangerous, dirty, dull, domestic) that Americans eschew. And finally both leaders, new to their posts at the time, were disposed to break with policies from previous administrations.
It is quite likely that Fox arrived in Washington ready for tradeoffs. In exchange for U.S. acceptance of more Mexican workers, Mexico would "seal" its own southern border, to detain and deport migrants from other regions, especially Central Americans, whose presence in the United States had skyrocketed since Hurricane Mitch devastated the region in 1998.
In fact, this measure was implemented in July 2001 by Plan Sur (South Plan), whereby Mexico militarized its border with Guatemala and Belize, and the narrow Isthmus of Tehuantepec through which all Central American migrants had to traverse. Fox had asked for a special and privileged treatment for Mexicans, in exchange for hunting down migrants from third countries before they could make their way to the U.S. border. The measure had the effect of "displacing" tasks of the U.S. southern border to southern Mexico.
Fox's government formalized the idea of creating an exclusive and excluding "North America space," to which Mexico would gain entry, in essence by turning its back on Latin America. Mexico's northward-looking bias became explicit with Fox, but it merely culminated a policy that began during the administration of Mexico's first president of unquestionable neoliberal extraction, Miguel de la Madrid (1982-1988).
Fox likely called on Bush with more than Plan Sur to offer -- possibly the privatization of PEMEX (the state oil company) or the Federal Electricity Commission. Although efforts to privatize these two state-run companies have stalled in the legislature, Fox has not flinched from putting Mexico's oil at the service of American interests, notably by upping exports to the United States in the weeks previous to the invasion of Iraq.
In any event, the Fox-Bush summit took place in a radically different historic moment. The presidents met in Washington on September 5, 2001, six days before 9/11. Since then the Fox government has retreated to Mexico's traditional role vis-à-vis its neighbor, i.e., with few exceptions, letting the United States establish the agenda, conditions, and timeframes.
In the new post-9/11 environment, Fox's bold migratory and integrationist proposals were abruptly shelved by the Bush administration. The ensuing retreat towards a passive role for Mexican foreign policy, particularly regarding the only important foreign interlocutor for Mexico, contributed to Castañeda's resignation in January 2003.
I would not say that the Iraq war was created as a distraction to the American public for the underhandedness that is taking place in Washington, but it has certainly turned out to be a distraction...
I assume opening our borders and creating a North American State falls outside the scope of limitations put in place by our Constitution...
The Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of the Fed Gov are clearly united in this endeavor, including the muriad of alphabet police agencies and the numerous other appointed agencies...
And yet we have good, conservative Americans down in Texas at Bush's driveway hootin' and hollerin' in support for him...AND they know about this scheme...
Here's a shorter article:
No tin foil needed: they've already announced their plans.
Council Joins Leading Canadians and Mexicans to Launch Independent Task Force on the Future of North America
Task Force calls for North American bloc by 2010
The proof of this would be in a push for firearms restrictions on American citizens.
"I would not say that the Iraq war was created as a distraction to the American public for the underhandedness that is taking place in Washington, but it has certainly turned out to be a distraction..."
Americans still don't understand the build-up to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, the US leadership that understood Saddam's intentions and why (if weren't against it) we "failed" to see troop formations on the border. Schools only teach post Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the subsequent Gulf War.
That is, unless they actually sign the Constitution (and their own countries dissolve)...
Those who support the North American Community should be dancing at the end of a rope.
Thanks for the ping, hope to have time to read all of this today.
To be renamed MexAmeriCan.
This is a bunch of bull. Our politicians have been working hard to redistribute America's wealth to Mexico for years. Also, by taking half of Mexico into America and forcing the American workers to pay for the illegal's care, plus allowing illegals to take jobs away from Americans at half the wages and no benefits, has brought riches to the business class and helped the economic crisis in Mexico. This has all been done on the backs of the American workers, who are bearing the burden of establishing the North American Community for the elites.
By the time our politicians are finished with us, we will be as poor as the poorest Mexican before he came to America. It just amazes me that Fox has known all this for years, and has tried to tell the American public what is going on, and we still have the tin foil hat society going strong.
The problem is, the fundamental goal of the "elites" is to destroy the Constitution and the American middle class.
We'll end up with a continent wide Mexico, and not the other way around. Go look up more of this plan. The (former)U.S. taxpayers will foot the bill for the rest of the continent, with free college for all mexicans and welfare for some sixty million more mexicans and twenty million canadians, plus we'll pay for all the new infrastructure to be built in mexico. We'll get nothing out of this but the shaft.
That will finish us off.
Just what makes you think the idea is to hold the place AGAINST communism? It is intended to CEMENT the control they already surreptitiously have under false colors.
Aye, there's the rub, now isn't it? Aarrggh! Now what if I was to say to ye; the U.S., she won't be hav'n her own sovreignty for much longer, due to congress ceding their responsibilities to the likes of the WTO. We're in it good now, I tell ye. And only a miracle can get us out.
... The building of a new North American space is rapidly progressing, yet lacking civil society consultation and legislative oversight. By doing away with treaties or accords, the three chief executives are achieving deeper integration through NAFTA Plus by signing ?regulations,? thus foregoing the bother of seeing their plans bogged down in one of the legislatures....
This is treason.
Agreed. It is time for Jeffersonian principles and some of his sage remarks to be bruited about...in GWB's earshot. "The Tree of Liberty, ..."
Trade between the US and Mexico rose from $100 billion in 1994 to $266 billion in 2004.
Trade between the US and Canada rose from $243 billion in 1994 to $446 billion in 2004.
Yeah, I've hated that low unemployment, strong stock market and housing boom that has happened since NAFTA went into effect.
Truth, be told, NAFTA has had neither a wholly negative, nor positive effect on the economy.
On a related note:
1985: The Japanese are TAKIN' ER JAHBS! 1995: The Mexicans are TAKIN' ER JAHBS! 2005: The Chinese are TAKIN' ER JAHBS!
I guess you never saw a certain episode of South Park.
Since when is China part of NAFTA?
Neither is Japan. Just mocking those who are obsessed with such things.
Which one is you?
I'm not in the photo, but that's my vehicle on the left.
Homeland security would never allow such a thing. The Patriot Act was put in place to protect the elite from patriots.
And yet our economy thrives. Our unemployment rate is 5% and we still allow you whiners to whine.
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