Posted on 08/26/2005 9:05:58 AM PDT by RWR8189
August 26, 2005--Senator Hillary Clinton holds a 24-point edge in her bid for re-election to the U.S. Senate. Clinton first won her Senate seat by a 9-point margin in Election 2000.
The latest Rasmussen Reports survey found that the former First Lady is the choice of 57% of New York voters while Jeanine Pirro currently earns 33% of the vote. Clinton leads by 18-points among men and 29-points among women.
Related survey data shows that Democrat Eliot Spitzer holds an even larger lead in the race to become New York's next Governor.
Hillary Clinton is viewed favorably by 63% of the state's voters, including 45% who have a "very favorable" opinion of her. Just 35% have an unfavorable view of their Junior Senator. Nationally, opinion of Hillary Clinton is more evenly divided.
For Pirro, the numbers are 39% favorable and 38% unfavorable. Even within her own party their are doubts-- just 50% of Republicans hold a favorable opinion of Pirro.
The potential Clinton-Pirro match-up features famous husbands and, even in this category, Hillary has the political advantage. Al Pirro is twice as likely to be seen as a problem for his wife's campaign as Bill Clinton.
Clinton will need to build on her current 24-point lead to boost her expected 2008 Presidential bid. At the very least, she will want to win New York by a larger margin than her party's last two Presidential nominees--Al Gore (25 percentage points) and John Kerry (19 percentage points).
Currently, 24% of Americans believe Senator Clinton is "very likely" to be the Democrat's Presidential nominee in 2008.
Fifty-one percent (51%) of New York voters believe Hillary Clinton is a carpetbagger. Just 32% say she's a real New Yorker. But, that perceptin has little impact on how Empire State citizens act in the voting booth.
Just 38% of New York voters approve of the way that George W. Bush is performing his job as President. Sixty-one percent (61%) disapprove, including 47% who strongly disapprove.
Thirty-one percent (31%) believe the country is heading in the right direction at this time.
Demographic cross-tabs are available for Premium Members. The margin of sampling error for the full survey sample is +/- 4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.
What is it with NY? Is it something in the water? Are they all retarded?
It's early Pirro will close the gap, IMHO.
"I was in favor of the war as a moderate before I was against it as liberal."
Retarded? Yes, they are. Simple, huh?
Pirro will never be reported to be in the lead even if she is. Polls move idiot voters, and NY's got plenty.
YOu got it!
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. This is a BIG teachers union state that has a lot of power in Albany. I think I'm the only conservative in my western NY area. I live with staunch Demos on either side of me (one who is a teachers union rep!!!) Man, I wish I could get outta here!
I'd say those are pretty impressive poll numbers given that Pirro hasn't campaigned and doesn't have near Hillary's name recognition.
I heard a tape of a recent Pirro appearance on Laura
....she had better find page 10 if she thinks she's gonna
have a chance against Hil.
Hil is 100% on when she's in public, and Pirro sounded
like a confused amateur.
I wonder if Hillary will be a consultant on the new TV show.
TV's female prez rests on Davis' strength
By Gail Shister
Knight Ridder Newspapers
LOS ANGELES — Playing the president of the United States gives Geena Davis goose bumps.
Playing the first female president of the United States gives her hope.
When the star of ABC's new drama, "Commander in Chief," first walked onto the Oval Office set, "I felt I was experiencing what will be an incredibly historic moment," she said in a recent interview.
A woman chief executive "will happen. It's just a question of when. ... That woman will do exactly what I did. She'll walk into that office and think, 'I'm the president. This is my office.' "
"Commander," created by "The Contender's" Rod Lurie, will air at 9 p.m. Tuesdays beginning Sept. 27 (KOMO).
Oscar winner Davis (1988's "The Accidental Tourist") plays Vice President Mackenzie Allen, a political independent who becomes chief executive when the president dies after emergency brain surgery.
Almost everyone wants her to step down in favor of the creepy speaker of the House (Donald Sutherland). Even on his deathbed, the president tells her so.
On TV
"Commander in chief" premieres Sept. 27 and will air at 9 p.m. Tuesdays. KOMO.
He picked the wrong vice president. Like her steely character, Davis, 49, is a longtime feminist, "and I'm not afraid to say it."
At 6 feet, she's also a tall glass of water. Ditto for her co-stars: 6-foot-4 Kyle Secor, 6-3 Harry Lennix and 6-1 Sutherland.
"I think somebody should call the Guinness Book of Records," says "Homicide" alum Secor, who plays Mackenzie's husband and father of their three kids. "It may be the tallest cast in television history."
Davis' TV history includes two sitcoms — the short-lived "Geena Davis Show" in 2000-01 and Dabney Coleman's acclaimed "Buffalo Bill" in 1983-84 — but never a drama.
But when she read the "Commander" script, "I just jumped in, against my career-long vow that I would never do hourlong TV, because it's widely understood to be the worst lifestyle you can possibly have.
"And here I am. It's not even an ensemble show. I took it instantly, without hesitation. I can't do anything in a small way. When I take up archery, I try out for the Olympics." (She was a finalist for the 2000 U.S. team.)
Davis says she'd never run for public office, unless it was on Oprah Winfrey's ticket. "If she ran for president, she'd win."
bttt
That's my guess. Forced flouridation.
Which begs the next question: who is more retarded, NY or Mass.?
Ahem. NYS is mostly made up of red counties. Upstate ever gets the nads to secede and form a new state, I guarantee you it won't have this problem :)
This is why I have to laugh at some of the spin this matchup is generating. The really silly one goes like this: Boy, Hillary sure is going to have a problem with Pirro. Hillary won't be able to run effectively against someone who essentially mirrors her on issues important to women, like abortion "rights."
Uhhmmm, no. It's very easy to run against your clone. The reasoning goes something like this: Why vote for the ersatz liberal feminist when you can have the real thing? (And, oh, BTW, who also has that "D" after her name.)
Pirro is the best card that the NY GOP has to play. It may not be enough - it probably won't be - but you have to play your best card.
I dunno. You tell me. Would you stay in a place with 10.7 days of sunshine per year, high as hell taxes, toll booths on every road practically, no industry left to speak of, 475 inches of rain per year....
Geez, those are pretty high unfavorables coming right out of the starting gate with no name recognition.
I've been in NYC for 10 years and I don't remember a thing about Al Pirro.
I understand if you sensible red-staters see Pirro and Hillary as clones. Out here though, I think the difference is palpable. Just like Bloomberg, while a liberal in every sense, is in no way a Ferrer or Green.
I hope Pirro digs in and puts up the good fight. People might be surprised.
"Come from behind" is not unknown in political races. Herself is the one with the record to defend, and that record is a little shabby.
New York deserves better representation in the US Senate. Thus far, between Chuck Schumer and Herself, they have virtually none.
"I dunno. You tell me. Would you stay in a place with 10.7 days of sunshine per year, high as hell taxes, toll booths on every road practically, no industry left to speak of, 475 inches of rain per year...."
I think you just explained Seattle as well.
"Playing the first female president of the United States gives her hope."
The feminists do love their Hollywood fantasies. What would feminists do without Hollywood to keep their fantasies alive?
So we can teach Hillary a lesson by losing by over 20 points!
There is the old question about what the difference is between a pygmy and Hillary Rotten Clinton (aka the Hildabeast, aka Hellarewe, aka Hitlery, aka the Former First Madam,...).
The scum just keeps getting the breaks. I am very very worried about the Hildabeast becomming the president. Could you imigine this happening in Bubbas administrtion if things were reversed? Remember ole Tommy Dasshole telling a firm in N Dakota that if it supported Thune there would be no government contracts for them.
Upstate won't secede. They'd have to take Buffalo and probably Ithaca, too.
That's still about 249,000 jobs short of the 250,000 her heinous promised to bring to upstate.
Hitlery had a 32% margin a month ago. The polls in that time have swing 8% in Pirro's favor. This is VERY bad news for Hitlery.
Go ahead and just say it.
Besides, we're ALL thinking it anyway......
Our first-born came along in Feb 1992, and I still have the "Baby Name Book" showing that Hillary made the short list. Thank God we had a boy.
In five more trips to the delivery room, Hillary was never considered.
Wow, it's kinda easy for you to go through a dozen eggs on saturday morning, eh?
Thank you for pointing out what should have been pointed out earlier in the thread. Glad to see someone didn't look solely at the current numbers, but rather the fact Hillary has lost support in a short period and Pirro has moved up. This isn't bad at all. It'll be bad if it's like this a few months from now as more people are introduced to her, but currently, pretty good.
Hey AmishDude!!
I grew up in Chester County, Pa. I had some Mennonite buddies, and did they ever like to party!! Are you as wild as they are??
Uh...not in that way, dude...you just stand over there, ya know...way over there...
I think you've misinterprupted my meaning of "party". They were FUN people who liked to have a good time.
You beat me to it. A weak ago Pirro had only 27%. Now 33%.
This could be exciting!
Q: How dumb are liberals from New York?
A: Just 32% say she's a real New Yorker.
It's still early, and Hillary simply has far, far more name I.D. And in spite of that and Jeanine Pirro's poor announcement, Hillary is already slipping. Pirro has a shot if she gets proper support from her party, including conservatives who regard her as too liberal.
It's winnable.
If this were in a "red state" I would definitely say to find somebody other than Pirro; however, this is NY and they WILL NOT elect a conservative. That being the case we need to support Pirro.
even a 5-6% LOSS for Pirro is a good outcome as far as Hillary 2008 goes.
hopefully Pirro will start a TV ad campaign after labor day. she has to use whatever early money she has been able to raise to get some early ads on to introduce herself to people.
As far as I'm concerned, anything but an expansion on Gore and Kerry's margin of victory in New York State should be considered a failure, and proves that she will not electable nation-wide.
LOL!!
I don't think so. Remember that both Gore and Kerry were running against someone who was especially unpopular with Blue-state Democrats, and had a lot of (what they would consider) right-wing baggage. Hillary will enjoy no such luxury. I doubt Pirro can inspire the same amount of antagonism that the President does among liberals. Failing that, Hillary will not be able to duplicate the Kerry/Gore margin, and with good reason.
Maybe you're right...
But it will make for great spin.
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