Posted on 08/26/2005 3:41:24 PM PDT by Crackingham
The Rev. Jerry Falwell said Thursday he supports basic civil rights for homosexuals, including equal opportunities to serve as public school teachers.
“I have always believed that all Americans should have basic human rights,” Falwell said. “I’ve made it clear that I don’t consider the right to fair housing or employment a conservative or liberal value. Those are American values.”
Falwell’s comments Thursday were similar to remarks he made earlier this month on the MSNBC television show, “The Situation.” Those comments earned him praise from the Human Rights Campaign, a nationally prominent group that works for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender equal rights.
“Like most Americans, it seems the Reverend Falwell has reached the conclusion that everyone deserves basic rights,” said HRC’s President Joe Solmonese on the group’s Web site.
Solmonese thanked Falwell in an Aug. 9 letter.
“You spoke with passion for the civil rights of all Americans - regardless of if they’re gay or straight,” Solmonese wrote.
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Falwell said his support for basic rights for homosexuals does not mean he favors new laws which give homosexuals expanded freedoms.
“I don’t think homosexuals should be granted a special minority status,” he said.
Falwell said a public school teacher’s conduct on the job should be the determining factor in his or her employment status.
“As long as a person obeys the law and doesn’t recruit a student to a certain lifestyle, they shouldn’t be prevented from teaching,” Falwell said. “Every American should be allowed to work wherever he or she wishes as long as they obey the law.”
Falwell said that does not mean he is going to hire homosexuals for teaching positions at Liberty Christian Academy or Liberty University.
“Our doctrinal belief is that homosexuality is wrong,” he said. “We also believe heterosexual promiscuity is wrong. Those have been standards since the beginning.”
Falwell said faith-based, private institutions are held to a different standard than public-based institutions.
“We have a stricter code than public schools,” he said.
rationality prevails.
Homosexuals do have the same basic rights as everyone: to be free from crime, invasion, and intrusive, overburdensome government.
That doesn't mean that we have to give them special benefits. It doesn't mean that we have to adopt gay marriage. it doesn't mean that they have to be hired anywhere they choose. It just means that they're citizens just like you and me and they have the right to walk down the street in peace.
And yet we had freepers on this very forum who were all upset at Judge Roberts providing a few hours pro bono work for a gay rights matter.
Some day a certain segment of the conservative party is going to "get it" and understand they don't speak for all conservatives and that Republicans are the big tent party.
"...You have the right to sing the blues. You have the right to cable TV...."
Tinky Winky got to him. ;-)
It was the purse.
Falwell needs to stick to what he knows: the Bible.
Judge Roberts was wrong and so is Falwell.
Sounds like he's saying that I have some kind of obligation to hire or rent my property to homosexuals and that I don't have the right to discriminate.
There is nothing rational about putting perversity on display in front of children day in and day out.
So little first graders can can be taught all year by some girly guy in a dress and it's just fine with you?
That is what he is saying. I wonder if he is hiring homosexuals at Liberty University.
BINGO!
Media whores, preachers and pols alike lose their souls to please the DNC keepers of perceptions.
I wish people would keep their sex lives private! I don't annouce to the whole world what I do and I don't want to hear it from someone else. I'm getting so sick of it.
Transgender should not be allowed anywhere near children. That's a whole nother universe as far as I'm concerned.
Liberals think we are all little Himmlers, so this is news to them.
Not if everyone get the same rights and those rights are defined as being a school teacher. You can't discriminate! Remember the premise.
Does life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness entitle absolutely everyone to be a school teacher? Can we make any moral distinctions?
Great leaders them Protestants have .....
So he believes that gay sex is okay if it's not promiscuous? Good grief this guy's a moron (as if that wasn't clear previously.)
Read it again.
Homosexuals define their lives around a sexual fetish.
There are those who wish to teach those fetishes in schools (and were doing so even when the sex acts between two members of same sex were illegal in a number of those states).
Sex education has moved beyond the biology of reproduction and disease into the mechanics and buffet of the sex positive approach (an ideology that finds abstinence wrong and unhealthy, not because "it doesn't work" but because, as with homosexuality, is a "denial of sexual desires"). If it feels good, do it.
It is as bad an idea as it is having communists teaching economics and American history.
Ah, Peachie, once again "coming out" in support of the radical gay agenda.
PLEASE get your nose out from under my tent!!!
Keep it in the closet and I don't have a problem with it.
Anyone who needs medical treatments to change their sex falls into a different category in my opinion. It really is a mental illness/disorder and should be recognized as one. Time to get back to common sense in the medical community.
I read it the first time. I, for one, am not an idiot. I can read.
And I read Falwell saying homosexuality's wrong, and homosexual promiscuity's wrong -- which raises the question, if you have to single out promiscuity, what does that say about non-promiscuous gay sex?
Why would you want to discriminate? And do you want tax payer dollars discriminating?
It's only that some people are more entitled than others. < /sarc >.
Everyone's dignity is to be honored, and who you sleep with is your own business, not a political issue.
But they take political action owing to things like sodomy laws -- "we don't want to be criminals just because we like to...." and the benefits of being legally married. So therein lies the thin thread of justification for all the whining.
Do they? The great Italian Renaissance artist Michelangelo Buenarotti was a well-known homosexual, and yet I don't feel exposed to sexual fetishes when I visit the Sistine Chapel. We can reserve the right to object to certain lifestyles while still keeping things in perspective.
I don't think having gay and lesbian schoolteachers necessarily means that those teachers are teaching gay sex in the classrooms (if they are, fire them) any more than displaying Michelangelo frescoes means that the Catholic Church endorses homosexuality.
Nobody..
the phantom bogeyman as usual
he pops up behind the tree of most "human rights" issues here in America
To keep pederasts away from one's children, to not rent to people engaged in sexual perversions.
And do you want tax payer dollars discriminating?
Absolutely! We should not be funding wasteful projects. We should not be funding immoral projects. We should not be paying for health care for gay boyfriends.
Once upon a time, discrimination was not a dirty word. You SHOULD discriminate, it's called having moral standards and common sense. You should discriminate against restaurants that serve bad food. You should discriminate against liars and cheats by refusing to hire them or give them any more trust than they deserve. You should discriminate in who babysits your children, avoiding perverts and other who may have a negative effect on them.
Racial discrimination is bad. That does not mean discrimination is bad. It means racism is bad.
To the left it is all about choice.
Whereas some transexuals make the claim that they were born with indetermimate genitalia, and possibly improperly "sex assigned" that is a miniscule minority.
No one ever changes their sex any more than a man or woman can change his or her race. Until women start to produce sperm and men ovulate in their crafted wombs and their DNA changes, they are how they were born.
Some don't even opt to go all the way with sex change operations, instead choosing to live with female breasts on top and male sex traits down below.
And as to tranvestites, where is the "wear the clothes of the opposite sex" gene? We are born naked. All clothing is fashion and culture.
This is all about embracing the sexual fetishes of some who choose to arrange their whole lives around a kink.
Wrong about what?
Seeing as how (statistically speaking) the most likely child molesters are ostensibly "straight" guys (usually a relative or family friend) it might actually be a good idea. Hey, if I were running an all-girls school, I'd hire as many highly-qualified gay guys for teachers as I could get. Likewise (and given several recent media reported incidents) Lesbian females would make good teachers at an all-boys school.
There is a difference between homosexuals and militant gays, and between homosexuals and the pedophiles over at NAMBLA. Homosexuals I don't even notice. I can 'tolerate' even flaming queens. But the NAMBLA crowd gets lumped in with the street gangs and the terrorists.
Very well. So he compares homosexual sex to hetero promiscuity. Again, failing to express an idea clearly.
Hetero sex is fine as long as it's not promiscuous? And homo sex is fine as long as it's not promiscuous? A "committed" straight or gay couple who are not married can have sex? I don't think so.
What he means is all sex outside of marriage is wrong, one presumes.
But he doesn't say that. He talks about promiscuity.
The AMA wrongly declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder, which it truly is.. I just saw on a dating site where a bi woman is looking for other woman only for the time being, her reasoning is that she is just out of a terrible marriage.
Good looking lesbian teachers? Because if you do that, I don't see how you'll ever get the boys to stop day dreaming.
I'd like to see peoples' political rights protected before we start granting them special status because of sexual fetishes.
After the last election there were Republicans who could not get hired at some firms and could not stay at some hotels.
One such employer said that he believed there would be fewer problems designing the gaming software his company made because the workers on staff would be less likely to raise complaints about the morals of the content.
I didn't ever catch the defense of the bed and breakfast owner who wouldn't let guests with Bush bumper stickers stay.
But clear as day it is legal discrimination.
You better believe Falwell DOES make moral distinctions.
But I agree with him here.
We should not ban gays from being school teachers anymore than we should ban ANYBODY for any moral shortcomings, including adultery etc.
As long as they don't teach such things are OK in the classroom.
The most likely sexual abusers of boys who've reached puberty (knows as pederasts rather than pedophiles) are FAR AND AWAY gay men.
I wouldn't let any person with a disordered sexual condition near kids. Better safe than sorry.
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