Spy at Camp Casey

Ankarlo Mornings Klif 570 ^

[thoughtomator]

We're not sinking to their level. Their level is treason. Intelligence gathering is just intelligent when dealing with such people.

[thoughtomator]

You'll get over it. Don't worry, be happy!

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I don't really care if I did or did not try to win a argument here.
The point is ?
I think ? some of us here are just trying to show you the issue in another perspective.
I can understand were you may think that it " LOOKS BAD " on that persons part and the radio station's part to send in that spy into their " Cindy's Camp " camp under cover to find out what their TRUE motives, and agendas are, and to get the truth out.
It's just, if they ( the radio station, and that person wants to find out the truth ) then, we don't have a problem with it.

[pcottraux]

"I don't really care if I did or did not try to win a argument here."

I wish I didn't care, because I lost one.

"Some of us here are just trying to show you the issue in another perspective."

I tried to show other people another perspective, too. I was not successful, but they were.

I'm just sick of the whole matter. The world's going to end before the next election, anyway.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

How about when God told Moses to send in 12 spies to go into the promised land to spy the land, and come back with a report ?

[pcottraux]

Take it up with God, not me.

[zeebee]

Enough about "spies".

What was said?

[Keith in Iowa]

>>>What was said?

http://www.amfmpodcast.com/PodCast/ankarlo-michael.mp3

[Prophet in the wilderness]

We do understand how this might look for our side, and we DO understand your points.
But, from what we seen 2 months ago in Congress, after we seen the Liberals ( once again ) railroaded us, the Republicans need to stop letting them get over on us and push us around ( even when we are in the majority ) and it's time to stand up against the Liberals on level ground.

[pcottraux]

Okay, fine. But why were people accusing me of "needing a backbone?" Of "Not willing to stand up to liberals?" Or even saying that I "didn't want to send spies to Al-Quaeda, or Nazi Germany, because that would be unfair?" What's that all about? And what's the deal with being a "new guy?" Just because I've only been here since early May means I don't know anything?

[Keith in Iowa]

I watched the exchanges...

You seem to want to use wiffle-ball tactics in a baseball game. You got bent over something not worth getting bent over. The tactics of one side an informant to provide information about competitors is standard operating procedure - if you don't do it, and do it well - you will never win, ever.

[pcottraux]

"You seem to want to use wiffle-ball tactics in a baseball game."

Just what I need, more anologies. How about if this is a baseball game, I'm sitting on the bench again?

[Keith in Iowa]

Just what I need, more anologies. How about if this is a baseball game, I'm sitting on the bench again?

Suit yourself.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

When I first came here, many used to get on me about my spelling, yes, I didn't like it, but, I didn't give up.
You just got to get back up on your horse after a fall, and be strong.
I myself have had a few arguments here, and lost arguments and have been misunderstood.

Have you ever read Theodore Roosevelts quote ? " The man in the Arena " ??
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3745/tr.html



The Man in the Arena


" Teddy Roosevelt:


"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better.

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena;
whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood;
who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause;
who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."


THEODORE ROOSEVELT (Paris Sorbonne,1910)
CITIZENSHIP IN A REPUBLIC The Man in the Arena By Theodore Roosevelt University of Paris, Sorbonne April 23, 1910

[pcottraux]

Sitting on the bench, because I'm such a terrible player, I know my team will lose if I'm out on the field anywhere.

That's baseball for me in real life, too, not just in analogy. I'm just not competitive enough for these games.

[pcottraux]

I've run out of things to say. I think I'll go to bed now.

[Keith in Iowa]

>>>Sitting on the bench, because I'm such a terrible player, I know my team will lose if I'm out on the field anywhere.

Quitters never win - and winners never quit. I know, that's a trite cliche, but it's true. I looked at your profile page - you're young...and can develop the skills you think you lack - if you're willing to do the work.

[Smokin' Joe]

The weapon of the Conservative should be intelligence, logic, and reasoning. We must defeat liberals, not by "spying" and "gathering intelligence," but by defeating them on the debate field. As they lose the argument, they turn into Howard Dean: they become shrill, angry, and desperate. It makes them look bad. It hurts their resolve, because they realize they could be wrong.

The weapons of the liberal are obfustication, deceit, and preying on the emotions of those easily convinced by such tactics. There will be no rational debate: they have proven this time and again. When they become shrill, instead of revolting those in their 'base', they use it as a war cry, recall that they prey on emotion. As long as they can maintain the pep-rally atmosphere, they can and do prevail with a multitude. That is their public face which permits the recruitment of countless usefull idiots.

Behind that is the cold, calculating crowd of string pullers who benefit from all the fanfare. They will never disillusion the usefull idiots and well meaning but deceived people who support them by being straightforward with their aims or intentions.

Whatever their motivation or intent, I see no harm in finding out more. Spying is the time honored method in such circumstances.

[ontos-on]

sink to a level???? .....what do you think reporting the truth entails??? you cannot be this naive???perhaps you protest too much.

if you are sincere, do not use a metaphor or a cliche, and describe exactly what he is doing as far as you understand it .. and then why do you think there is anything questionable about it.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Cheer up, tomorrow is a new day.