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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
NOAA - NHC ^ | 28 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/28/2005 2:38:16 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: justche

He also commented how good it was that the Dome has air conditioning...but, not if the electricity is out, it won't...darn


51 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: mware

Sorry I just got on this thread, and not about to go back through a wormhole to the previous. It sounds like the Superdome is full of people??


52 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:25 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: Kozak
First time the "nosebleed seats' are gonna be the most desirable...

I would not want to be even near the roof.

53 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:25 PM PDT by mware (Trollhunter of Note)
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To: LadyBuzz

WWL - pickups for the Superdome are slacking off per NO mayor, and the last pickup will be at 6 pm. Curfew starts at New Orleans starts at 6 pm, and the emergency services are expected to shut off then as well.


54 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:25 PM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: mware

My heart is breaking for those people waiting in line at the Dome.


55 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:25 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: WestCoastGal

And once people get their bearings and water has gone down enough, there will be investigations about what happened to the emergency preparedness funds (Louisiana taxpayers paid for it) and why the President had to twist the Louisiana officials' arms to get an evacuation started. (Been there, saw that, many years before.)


56 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:25 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: diverteach

Over here.


57 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:29 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Nashville, TN)
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To: NautiNurse

I fear the Superdome is a death trap for all these poor folks - it makes me shudder


58 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:30 PM PDT by LadyBuzz
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To: mhking

I'm watching. Last pickup of buses to go to Superdome will occur at 6:00pm local time. After that, curfew will be in effect. Anybody riding storm out in their homes will then be on their own--no police, no fire, no EMS, no nothin'.


59 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:38 PM PDT by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: NautiNurse
1) Is there ANY chance of this maelstrom veering off? Pressure bands etc (I have to admit that I am not that well versed in hurricanes .....all i've had to worry about are blizzards and twisters for the last 5 yrs, so info would be appreciated).

2) Also how come they do no have military C-130s airlifting those people who cannot get out? The ride would be quite uncomfortable, but that seems better than sitting out a Cat-5. If I was a governor I would definitely have explored that option.

3) Finally how in goodness name will the state of Louisiana, and the country at large, handle the potentially huge loss of life (not to mention the fiscal cost of what might be the eradication of an entire city, at least in terms of viability)?

Although I guess my biggest question is if there is any chance of a miracle occuring that causes the hurricane to veer off (and not into Texas). Thanks NautiNurse.

60 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:42 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: myprecious

"Good thing to check for weapons."

So very true. Hubby was in Slidell last month and heard on the local news that the police's swat team had gone into one of NO's projects to do a test. The fired off 2-3 shots at a time to see how long it would take someone to call 911. They fired over 700 rounds before the first call to 911 came in. No kidding. And rest assured, there ARE guns in that crowd and unfortunately, that's why they have to wait to get in. The saftey of the people in the Dome, especially the children, must come first. If a gun were to go off in the Dome with that many people in it, all hell could break loose.


61 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:51 PM PDT by LibSnubber (Lafayette, LA........PRAYER AGAINST STORMS on my homepage)
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To: justche
Is that 102 bathrooms or 102 toilets and urinals????
62 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:53 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (God Save New Orleans)
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To: justche

That's alright for a few hours, but for days . . . yuck!!!!


63 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:01 PM PDT by jayef
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To: LadyBuzz
Fox News will be on all night

I hope that have the set stocked with plenty of kleenex for a certain yacking hair doo.

64 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:10 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: myprecious

"How many rolls of paper?"

First rule of personal storm prep... get somewhere safe and don't forget the TP.


65 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: mware

Yep- and now he's talking to tourists from overseas who are now stuck in the Super Dome.

I remember after 9/11 the recurrent overwhelming thoughts that nothing would ever be the same again. I'm having those thoughts AHEAD of time ...make sense?


66 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:26 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: myprecious

That's something I hope people brought along with them (seriously) I can't even imagine....


67 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:32 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: hole_n_one

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread


68 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:35 PM PDT by Howlin (She's here!)
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To: NautiNurse
One of our Baton Rouge Freepers just reported electricity went out for 20 minutes already--they are going to try to evacuate now.

Prayers appreciated for their safety.

69 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:40 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: myprecious
How many rolls of paper?

I knew we forgot something ...

70 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:40 PM PDT by 11th_VA (And so it was in the days of Noah ...)
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To: Dog
Who has the streaming video links?

Repeating from at the start of the thread (links courtesy mhking) -

Live video streams (should open into the appropriate player):

WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm
WKRG-TV/DT Mobile (WMP) - mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

71 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:50 PM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: Kozak
The Superdome

I only wish the Superdome was shaped like "The Igloo" (The Civic Arena) in Pittsburgh. It is shaped like an upside down hemisphere. I'm not crazy about the shape of that building in NO with those winds coming!

Btw, someone earlier had a Freudian slip and called it The Superdoom.

72 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:52 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: alancarp

A tornado watch is in effect til whenever. No deadline was listed. Across LA, MS, and AL and part of FL.


73 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:52 PM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel in HSV, AL)
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To: NautiNurse

ping


74 posted on 08/28/2005 2:46:58 PM PDT by StatenIsland
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To: NautiNurse

Superdome = Noah's Ark


75 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:16 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: steveegg

there will be people running to the superdome if this thing plays out.


76 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:21 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: NautiNurse
Latest vortex recon has central pressure at 903MB, so she is basically holdig steady state. The wind reading came from the northwestern quadrant at 130kt ... so they are staying with the 160 KT reading of 3 hrs ago since they did not get a reading in the NE quad this time.

Basically what this says is the storm in maintaining its strength at around 165-175 mph winds. Possibly higher. New Orleans is looking at the doomsday scenario unfortunately.

This storm could have epic repercussions for our country. NO may be uninhabitable after this and the storm could concievably change the path of the Mississippi, with the effect of access to the Port of NO being cut off.

77 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:30 PM PDT by commish ((Montgomery, AL) Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: justche

The sewers are not going to be working...'bathrooms' won't be either.


78 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:33 PM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: geopyg

No, it's not.


79 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:33 PM PDT by Howlin (She's here!)
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To: justche

When the water dept loses power, those toilets won't be of much use.


80 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:37 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: mercy

ya know, that's thing. How do you leave your dog or cat behind? They need to accept them in shelters, maybe if you have a cage or something fof them. What a horrible decision to make to leave them.


81 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:37 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: hole_n_one
ROFL!

She has got under your skin huh?

82 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:37 PM PDT by Dog ( "Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here, obedient to their laws, we lie.")
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To: NautiNurse

Carl Rove created this hurricane to take Cindy Sheehan out of the news.


83 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:41 PM PDT by Defendingliberty (www.456th.com)
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To: alancarp

He could open some of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. This *is* what it was made for (among other reasons), as opposed to that stupid thing Klinton did with it "to drive down prices because we think they're too high."


84 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:44 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mware
"The little old woman using her walker got to me."

I cannot imagine why they don't make a different entrance for the elderly. That picture really got to me as well.

85 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:49 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Thank you JR for pulling this limping team across the finish in 9th place)
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To: alancarp

Is the "reserve" there to use in cases like this? I know it wouldn't affect the prices...but I also worry if this is TOO bad, we would also have shortages...


86 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:50 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: spetznaz

Our weather experts here say that Katrina is such a monster that she's not affected by outside forces. She goes where she wants to go.


87 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:57 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Nashville, TN)
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To: Howlin

BTTT, Sweetie!


88 posted on 08/28/2005 2:48:09 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: alancarp

Well, he could start doing what he is being accused of doing in the first place: Steal Iraqi oil.


89 posted on 08/28/2005 2:48:12 PM PDT by kx9088
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To: spectre

My guess is restrooms, with each having what 5-10 stalls in them?


90 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:01 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: spetznaz
Is there ANY chance of this maelstrom veering off?

Decreasingly so.

Also how come they do no have military C-130s airlifting those people who cannot get out?

Part of the problem is time. As recently as Friday night-Saturday morning, this was thought to be a Mobile/Pensacola event. To realistically evacuate an area the size of New Orleans, you need 72 hours (according to reports on WWL and WDSU). They just plain didn't have enough time.

91 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:19 PM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: mhking

The Fox reporter at the Superdome just interviewed some tourists who were waiting in the line. An Aussie and also some Brits. They were upbeat, just going through the motions, without seeming to have the slightest clue about what is about to happen. Awful.


92 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:30 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Wisely investing in quality tin foil wardrobe basics since 1998)
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To: justche

The sewers are not going to be working...'bathrooms' won't be either.


93 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:31 PM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: NautiNurse
Thanks for the great links. Hope you are safe in Florida.

FRegards,

94 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:34 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: wimpycat

Why are they stopping before dark??

I don't understand this "plan" at all.


95 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:36 PM PDT by Howlin (She's here!)
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To: Txsleuth; Spktyr

Yeah, the Petro Reserve would be a good start. Maybe we can get more by promising to keep Pat Robertson out of Venezuela.


96 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:44 PM PDT by alancarp ((Piedmont of NCarolina))
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To: alancarp

Open the SPR's. Fast track some new refineries. Attack Venesuela....Just kidding!


97 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:55 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: NautiNurse; SE Mom; MizSterious; jslade; Fudd Fan; All
Thanks for your comments. I'm getting a sick feeling in my stomach for these people trying to get in the Superdome. The officials need to open more doors or something. This is getting ridiculous on how long it's taking.

I posted this on the end of the other thread. Maybe someone will be interested in commenting here:

To: jslade; Fudd Fan

Re: the Superdome:

Because of the cuvature of the exterior, any lateral energy winds will be transferred verticaly literally taking the roof off. You heard it here first. They are being evacuated into a death trap IMHO.

That's what I was thinking. Who has that photo of it? Any engineer types who are reading this care to opine?

98 posted on 08/28/2005 2:49:55 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: steveegg

Are those the same links at the top of the thread?


99 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:01 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: beyond the sea

Of course the Superdome saved New Orleans before. Does anyone remember that made-for-TV movie where the killer bees invaded New Orleans, and they defeated the bees by driving them into the Superdome then turned down the A/C in the dome to kill bees off?


100 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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